Interested in how this mega beast is cooled.
They have a brand new cooling system that's designed to maximize airflow while keeping noise down.
I'm intrigued by the iMac Pro, but I can't help but see it as a sort of in-betweener or stopgap. It's for pros that just can't wait until sometime in 2018 to get a new rig, or for the sort who may do serious multi-core work (say, 4K video editing) but doesn't need a monster GPU or 30TB of internal storage. I can't help but think that it'll take a hit when the reborn Mac Pro arrives.
I asked this in the WWDC thread, but do we even know that the Mac Pro is being reborn next year? That was the hub-bub a couple months ago when some article decried the horrid state of desktop Macs, reporting that Apple had learned the Trash Can Pro was not a good design for the evolution of GPUs.They have a brand new cooling system that's designed to maximize airflow while keeping noise down.
I'm intrigued by the iMac Pro, but I can't help but see it as a sort of in-betweener or stopgap. It's for pros that just can't wait until sometime in 2018 to get a new rig, or for the sort who may do serious multi-core work (say, 4K video editing) but doesn't need a monster GPU or 30TB of internal storage. I can't help but think that it'll take a hit when the reborn Mac Pro arrives.
Interested in how this mega beast is cooled.
I asked this in the WWDC thread, but do we even know that the Mac Pro is being reborn next year? That was the hub-bub a couple months ago when some article decried the horrid state of desktop Macs, reporting that Apple had learned the Trash Can Pro was not a good design for the evolution of GPUs.
And yet here again Apple goes further into the direction of absolute integration. Why spend all their energy stuffing a workstation into an iMac chassis that won't launch until December? Is it really that difficult to design an Apple-esque mid-tower with upgradeable RAM and storage, and 2 or 3 PCI-e slots?
I'm rather confused by this machine BTW. I don't know if this is the new Mac Pro or not. If not, then what is the Mac Pro? 18 cores is an awful lot. Is there yet another machine that has internal upgradability? If so that would be good for those that need it.
Doesn't ship until December.Is it really a xeon? The only 18 core xeon are broadwell based. Skylake launches in a couple weeks.
Or do they mean that core i9 that was just announced?
Interested in how this mega beast is cooled.
Starting at $4999 - what a deal!
When you consider the price of a Quadro card alone, actually it's a Damn good deal for a fully supported Professional Workstation. Apple really surprised me on this one, looks like an olive branch to their professional community.
yea i was gonna bitch about the price but its not that insane. the 8/16 CPUs are not cheap either
whats gonna be silly is what the fully speced one costs as the 18 core xenon currently costs over 3k by itself
Interested in how this mega beast is cooled.
No. The machines are Xeon only, 8 to 18 core.When they say "starting at 4999" it's probably an i7 at that config
I don't see what the big deal is other than it's technically a beast. Only the most demanding professional users can utilize this kind of power, and starting at $5K, it's out of range of most consumers.
Probably a good reason why the Mac Pro hasn't seen a significant update since launch. It only really appeals to professionals.
Apple is in a death spiral. It's just going to take longer this time because they have a lot more money to burn through than last time.
Professional users want something modular and expandable, not a fully integrated machine. Combining the display with the machine is also a mistake for the professional workstation application, in my opinion.When you consider the price of a Quadro card alone, actually it's a Damn good deal for a fully supported Professional Workstation. Apple really surprised me on this one, looks like an olive branch to their professional community.
That's just the thing: a pro user in the market for a Dell is incredibly unlikely to buy an all-in-one solution. That person is most likely interested in a modular solution and will buy a tower, a set of monitors, and so on. Also, consider Dell's standard 3 year warranty for the Precision line. Dell also allows you to service your own machine without voiding the warranty, and you can readily get parts for it, so you can keep backups/spares for mission critical machines. These are things that appeal to professionals, so given the option, that's what they'd want to buy, not an all-in-one that requires an extended warranty.Just compare the new iMac Pro to the closest windows professional AIO which would probably be the Dell Precision 5720 series and Apple will actually be quite cheap compared to a similarly equipped Dell.
For example, university teaching labs and scientific research labs are full of iMacs, often top-of-the-line with tons of RAM. I could see them buying a few of these too. I don't see them buying too many 18-core machines, but 8-core to 10-core with 32 GB to 64 GB of ECC RAM they would though.Professional users want something modular and expandable, not a fully integrated machine. Combining the display with the machine is also a mistake for the professional workstation application, in my opinion.
$5000 and your only option is to get a new one if you need more capability sounds incredibly expensive, to me.
That's just the thing: a pro user in the market for a Dell is incredibly unlikely to buy an all-in-one solution. That person is most likely interested in a modular solution and will buy a tower, a set of monitors, and so on. Also, consider Dell's standard 3 year warranty for the Precision line. Dell also allows you to service your own machine without voiding the warranty, and you can readily get parts for it, so you can keep backups/spares for mission critical machines. These are things that appeal to professionals, so given the option, that's what they'd want to buy, not an all-in-one that requires an extended warranty.
I think people are looking at this iMac Pro purely on specs, not realizing the way workstations are actually used in the real world. It's a bad move; the "Pro" moniker really just means "expensive consumer."
That pricing "analysis" is pretty much useless.