New Intel SSD drives are in!!!

[taltamir]

ugh, newegg is saying "temporarily out of stock" and telling people to get the G1 instead... (at the same price)

 

[jkresh]

taltimar newegg has been saying that for a few weeks now. I want the 160 available (newegg, zipzoomfly, mwave, antonline through amazon is iffy (http://www.resellerratings.com..._Network_Technologies) used to have good ratings but 6 month ones are scary.

 

[Idontcare]

This sure is taking an inordinate amount of time to patch something in the firmware that wasn't broken to begin with on the G1 drives...

 

[jkresh]

Idontcare, the firmware is out, has been since last Friday, everyone is just waiting for the drives to be back in stock

 

[taltamir]

what jkresh said... I am using the updated firmware right now...

 

[fleshconsumed]

Buy.com ebay store has 160GB listed at $446 with free shipping. You can save %10 percent if you use MS cashback with total coming around $400.

Just go to ebay and search for SSDSA2MH160G2C1

 

[jkresh]

flreshconsumed, any idea as to why buy.com does not list the drive, but their ebay store does (or is it possible that the ebay store is not actualy connected to buy.com, it just uses the buy name?)

 

[AbRASiON]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: AbRASiON

Originally posted by: ilkhan
So even with win7 RTM there's no trim support as of yet, right?

TRIM is in Windows 7 but Intel have decided to be lazy, even though they've had since JANUARY of Windows 7 beta (and that's public, let alone private) - they still haven't put TRIM on their new disks - it's insane.

Now the final is OUT for people who have an MSDN account, it's insane.

it is not insane, it is quality control. The final is only going to be released in a month

You mean two months, yet Windows 7 has supported TRIM since January and intel has had their hand forced and had to work on the firmware again in an emergency ? and they STILL can't squeeze TRIM in?
Rubbish - not good enough.

 

[AbRASiON]

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Buy.com ebay store has 160GB listed at $446 with free shipping. You can save %10 percent if you use MS cashback with total coming around $400.

Just go to ebay and search for SSDSA2MH160G2C1

What is MS Cashback?

 

[fleshconsumed]

jkresh
AFAIK this is a legit buy.com store, they just sell stuff through ebay as well. No idea why its not listed on their main website. I ordered one and saved the webpage with my order to make sure it shows it's a G2 drive in case they send me G1. We'll see. I opted for free shipping though, so it may take a while, I'm in no hurry because I still got to install Server 2008 R2 over the weekend on a different computer.

Originally posted by: AbRASiON

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Buy.com ebay store has 160GB listed at $446 with free shipping. You can save %10 percent if you use MS cashback with total coming around $400.

Just go to ebay and search for SSDSA2MH160G2C1

What is MS Cashback?

Read the following thread

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...id=40&threadid=2198292

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: AbRASiON

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: AbRASiON

Originally posted by: ilkhan
So even with win7 RTM there's no trim support as of yet, right?

TRIM is in Windows 7 but Intel have decided to be lazy, even though they've had since JANUARY of Windows 7 beta (and that's public, let alone private) - they still haven't put TRIM on their new disks - it's insane.

Now the final is OUT for people who have an MSDN account, it's insane.

it is not insane, it is quality control. The final is only going to be released in a month

You mean two months, yet Windows 7 has supported TRIM since January and intel has had their hand forced and had to work on the firmware again in an emergency ? and they STILL can't squeeze TRIM in?
Rubbish - not good enough.

you seem to have no idea what trim actually is. TRIM is a command that notifies the controller of free space as soon as the user deletes data, rather then when new data is to be overwritten over the "empty" areas. Great for magnetic media, bad for SSD.
However taking the command is just the first step. Now that the controller KNOWS which are free space, it has to go through intelligent algorithms to decide how to use that information to improve performance. Simple clearing all space as it is deleted will ruin the whole wear leveling scheme, AND will give atrocious performance. It will not surprise me if they have multiple potential algorithms which they are testing for speed and data reliability before deciding which to use.

 

[spufaru]

There's another bloke on Amazon carrying the 160gb G2 albeit at a crap price:

http://www.amazon.com/Intel-16...&qid=1250782094&sr=1-4

But it looks like they're starting to trickle in, hopefully one of the big retailers picks it up by Monday.

Quick question: I'm having last minute thoughts about 80gb vs 160gb - if I'm comfortable with 40gb free space for my most often used apps, it's realistic that I can keep my Vista Home Premium (or W7) footprint to <40gb right? Right now it ties up a lot of space on my 1TB drive, but I think that's because it allocates an absurd 15% (150mb) by default to system restore files.

 

[ilkhan]

spufaru- 25GB of user data, office, adobe suite, and win7x64 are shown here on an 80GB partition. http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1978/capturelsl.jpg (games are all directory junctioned to the other partition). Admittedly, no hibernation file or page file are in there, but theres still plenty of space, even if you add another 12GB for those 2 files.

 

[taltamir]

DO NOT buy it at marked up price... wait a week or two until stock stabilizes...

 

[SeanFL]

anyone help me with the different model numbers of the G2 on zip zoom?
they gave a models that end with:

G2C1 (X25M) and G201 (X18M)

I see the X25M is 2.5" and the X18M is 1.8". Is the performance the exact same between the drives?

Sean

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

According to this, the specs (aside from physical size) are identical.

Apparently though, the 160GB models write a bit faster than the 80GB. Didn't know that.

 

[taltamir]

160GB is faster than 80GB
G2XX is faster than G1XX, only G2 will have trim
if XX is R1 it is retail box (i think with adapter bracket). C1 and 01 are OEM versions, with one of them having a slim 1/8th of an inch bracket on top making it slightly thicker for a snugger fit in some laptops.
AFAIK X18 is not available in G2 yet.
X18 = 1.8 inch
X25 = 2.5 inch
-M = Mainstream, aka, MLC (2 bit MLC... intel recently announced the first 3 bit MLC chips but they ain't out yet).
-E = Extreme, aka SLC

 

[imported_Seti]

Intel is not releasing the G2's because they can't figure out how to make the fimware and they don't want to have the same embarrasing problems they have with the G1's.

The only place you will find the G2's is in Intel warehouses, everybody else..BS..

And they are not alone, other companies have the same problems since de Taliban took over code writing in the muslim countries.

Long live the Raptors.

 

[taltamir]

what? no really what the hell are you smoking seti. Intel is selling the G2, I bought one. They had one bug with the firmware and it was fixed, I am running updated firmware.

Intel has nothing to do with the taliban.... and what muslim countries?

 

[Dorkenstein]

Hmm, outrageous claims, one post... I'd say trollish mischief is afoot.

 

[abaez]

Originally posted by: Seti
Intel is not releasing the G2's because they can't figure out how to make the fimware and they don't want to have the same embarrasing problems they have with the G1's.

The only place you will find the G2's is in Intel warehouses, everybody else..BS..

And they are not alone, other companies have the same problems since de Taliban took over code writing in the muslim countries.

Long live the Raptors.

 

[Leon]

Originally posted by: Seti
Intel is not releasing the G2's because they can't figure out how to make the fimware and they don't want to have the same embarrasing problems they have with the G1's.

The only place you will find the G2's is in Intel warehouses, everybody else..BS..

And they are not alone, other companies have the same problems since de Taliban took over code writing in the muslim countries.

Long live the Raptors.

Troll post is ... troll

 

[taltamir]

i should not have responded, the guy is obviously a troll

 

[fleshconsumed]

Buy.com now has SSDSA2MH160G2C1 on their website, but the price is raised to $461, they also raised ebay store price as well.

Glad I ordered at $446 - 10% cashback from ebay when I did. Received shipping notification yesterday evening, hopefully free shipping will be fast enough to get here before next weekend.

 

[imported_Seti]

Intel shipped some D2's (like to Newegg and maybe some other places) until they discovered the problem with the password reset (big problem, because you loose everything that you have in the unit if you reset the password).

They inmediatly pull them off because of that, and this is problem #1 (and if you don't believe me, put a password in your driver, then reset it and see what happens).

The difference between Buy.com and Newegg, is that while the later is a responsible company, the people that you'l find in Buy.com are just trying to make a quick buck without caring about the damage the migth cause. (Doesn't the price they are asking for this units {if they really have them} says anything to you?).

And then is problem #2: Do you guys have TRIM in your drivers or are just writting at a snail pace into your SSD at soon information beguins to fill your driver?

Before you call names to somebody, please log into Intel Forums, OCZ forums and Newegg reviews of the units in question and try to see the big picture.

And I hope that you don't have the Intel G1's, because Intel won't even do anything for you when the TRIM problem is fixed.

And why do you think Intel has not flooded the market with units? do you have any idea how much money they are loosing?

Any units using the Samsung controllers have the slowdown problems, and everybody that uses them is quick to tell you that they are waiting for Samsung to fix the problem.

As for the Taliban thing (wich was meant as a joke), where do you think code is writen at a competitive price if not in India or Pakistan?

Eventually these problems will be solved, but if you are willing to pay outragious prices for samething like these units and have the problems they will give you, my advise is that you do your homework before expending your hard earned dollars.