Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: mchammer187
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: videogames101
Originally posted by: Goosemaster
Originally posted by: Trevelyan
Originally posted by: dartworth
iPod/Apple haters make me laugh:beer:
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I know!
Its hilarious...
meh
lol, see, thats the POINT! their stock is going up! why? they selling a crappy product to an ill-informed market! thats why i hate them, i never said they weren't doing well.
crappy? they are giving people what they want apparently and people aren't disappointed.. Sure they usually "define" what the market "wants," but people eat it up...so blame the people.
The ipod is not crap btw. it may be outclassed via NUMEROUS additional features by the competition, and I think that's what helps its market appeal to the scared-of-technology crowd. it provides them a taste of a tax-bracket-ravishing IPO with just some lame government bond
It gives people a lot upfront.....and people pay for that convenience....
it's like the dollar menu or something I guess..
There it is! See, i don't blame the people, i blame the avalibilty of information about those other features! If people knew this, then they could make an informed decision, and even if they bought the ipod, i'd still be happy with it. But people don't get inf on the competition, and theirn lies the problem.
this is about the inherent repercussions of establishing and maintaining a fruitful capitalist society.
Apparently ,as you seem to be gravitating towards people, this has nothing to do with mp3 players
I think you just hate people.
If you want to discuss the economics of this, using my pathetic level of knowledge on the subject, what LEGITIMATE BARRIERS would you say competitors face in entering the mp3 market beside a little competition. (ignorance on the product is assumed if there is no advertising)
Where are the cowon ads?
I don't hate people =) But, the fact is there is not just a little competition, there is ALOT. First, it would take a huge amount of advertising, (which, btw, i agree other companies have failed miserably in) but the main competition is how far the ipod has worked itself into the culture of todays america. Half the people i know think an iPod is not the same as an mp3 player. It's the kind of thinking the has engulfed those not as technically knowledgable as some of us, that makes it almost impossible for a competitor to edge in.
If a truly superior product came out than I think the masses would adopt it
if you really believe that the Cowon A2 is superior in virtually every way than an ipod touch I've got news for you it isn't
the iPod touch loses simply because it's a, in most respects, a DRM only player. why, in your opinion, is the touch superior?
objective
size alone
Cowan A2
+ plays all formats (touch requires reencoding)
+ 4" TFT vs 3.5"
+ Records voice
+ 30 GB vs. 8 GB
- uses HDD which is a lot less reliable than flash (advantage is its capacity)
- 3x as large (volume)
- 2x as heavy (weight)
- no Wifi ipod is much easier to sync (ie cableless)
- no web browser
= picture capability
= price is a wash when comparing 8 GB ipod touch
subjective
- interface is not half as easy/functional as apples touch screen
- apples device looks much better ie the design
the last two are purely subjective but they are reasons that contribute to why i believe the ipod touch is superior
size to the features is the most important thing to me and the A2 being 3x as large and twice as heavy would probably prevent me from even considering it
First, as i own the cowon, it's not nearly as heavy or thick as it may seems from it's statistics. Second, your forgetting that the A2 has..
+USB hosting to other devices
+Line in recording (Both audio and video!)
+Built in speakers (Of course, they ahve the same quality as every built in speaker set, but what can you do eh?)
+Amount of storage advantage allows playback of many full feature movies, and the A2's battery allows 9 hours of video in my experience.
+The screen is amazing when watching videos!
+Audio enhancements, including a 5-band equalizer with presets, and features like MPenchance(basically just another increase bass and treble thing), BBE, bass boost, 3Dsurround, etc
+Text Viewing
+Video and audio line out! yes, put the A2 interface on your tv!
+Timed video recording, think of it as a DVR sorta thing
+If your in Japan and other countries you can watch TV over the airwaves
+Radio tuner built in (although i've had crappy reception)
+Records radio
+VERY frequent firmware updates
+DivX! (guess thats in format secton...)
+Leather carrying case that i personally love
+Higher wattage output then the iPod for powering portable speakers, etc (don't have exact stats)
All i can think of atm, but i think i got my point across. and it's really not all to hard to use
ALSO, the A3 is coming soon, which will add even more features
EDIT: built in mic, or was that already mentioned?
EDIT: and, tenatively, the A3 can read PDFs!