New KT266A king? Shuttle AK35GTR Review

zzzz

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looks good. they should have compared it to Abit kr7a though.
 
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cool! and the price is expected to be 95$, how crazy ass is that?
ill take it the onboard audio doesnt really cut it from what i could see?
i think im still gonna go with the dragon + though
 

NFS4

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<< cool! and the price is expected to be 95$, how crazy ass is that?
ill take it the onboard audio doesnt really cut it from what i could see?
i think im still gonna go with the dragon + though
>>


For $95, I'd sell my AK31 Rev 3.1 + USB 2.0 PCI card for this motherboard
 

ToBeMe

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I'll agree with someone above........I wish they had put it against the KR7-RAID also! I just got mine yesterday and got it actually installed this AM........So far all I can say is WOW! And this was going from a KG7-RAID in this system............
 

Athlon4all

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Dang! $95 for RAID+Sound golly! I might ne3ed to take back my christmas list! lol. Any info on how soon it'll be out?
 

Rahminator

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Shuttle makes some kickass boards lately and for the price they are really hard to beat. Me hugs my AK31A .
 

AGodspeed

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Did anyone else notice this.

Every board they tested (IWILLXP333, nForce, all KT266A boards, etc.) performed within just a few percent of each other. I think we're starting to see DDR's performance limitations (DDR266 that is).

If I were to purchase a DDR266 board today, I wouldn't be looking for the absolute fastest board out there. I'd be looking for the board that has the most features, best price, and excellent reliability. THAT is what I would be looking for, I wouldn't be looking for the board that is 1 or 2 percent faster.
 
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<< If I were to purchase a DDR266 board today, I wouldn't be looking for the absolute fastest board out there. I'd be looking for the board that has the most features, best price, and excellent reliability. THAT is what I would be looking for, I wouldn't be looking for the board that is 1 or 2 percent faster. >>

agreed. i was waiting on the kr7a, but i came to my senses. even if it is 2-3% faster, it's not worth the extra 50$ or 100$.

the only reason i would chose the dragon+ over this board is
1. has the front box for usb stuff included (really handy, i need it)
2. onboard audio, from what i hear is great.
3. built in lan. would keep me from having to buy 2 cards, as ill only need 1 now to interface between the switch and another computer (switch is filled, need 1 nic in the old pc, and 2 in the new pc, and i have 1 nic right now).

so i could sell my sb live mp3+ 5.1 for lets say 30$...net cost of the board now 120$
on the ak35gtr, id have to keep the card (im guessing from the review, said it was average. i assume it is a different chip than the dragon+, i should check that...).

but damn a kt266a board w/RAID+sound for under 100$. just insane.

so 25$ more for a built in nic, and the front usb port thingy. and a ton of people on AT who can help with problems if any are found. decisions, decisions

sorry got to rambling...
 

Jeff7

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Darn it! I was really hoping that the AK35GT would have more stuff onboard, like a NIC and maybe even a modem.

How does it compare to the K7V Dragon in the BIOS tweakability department?
 
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<< How does it compare to the K7V Dragon in the BIOS tweakability department? >>

well compared to the dragon +, it has a better vcore adjustment (up to 2.3v) and ddr voltage adjustments (which the dragon completely lacks). their highest fsb was 149, the highest ive seen a dragon + (in a review mind you) was 157 (162 possible). then again this is the first ak35gtr review as far as i know.
 

Furor

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Wow..if my XP333 doesn't allow vcore changes above 1.85 in a bios update, I might be getting this..
 

ST4RCUTTER

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More good news from Shuttle. It looks like somebody over there has their head on straight. The AK31 Rev 3.1 is an excellent board for a budget price. After settling out the overclock I have yet to crash this thing. It diligently runs 24/7.
 

ToBeMe

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<< hell, the ASUS beats the Abit:

popups galore
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Really???? Can I see those B/M's or the review that states that? The ones in the review are from a pre-production KR7-RAID!



<< Speaking of the Abit tested: "Also, do remember this is a pre-production board. To make this board company should SPDIF audio, 6 channel audio stuff can be implemented on it." >>

 

BD231

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Every board they tested (IWILLXP333, nForce, all KT266A boards, etc.) performed within just a few percent of each other. I think we're starting to see DDR's performance limitations (DDR266 that is).

DDR is tricked out SDRAM, albeit a very good trick, tricks only go so far . With memory, the big issue(imo) right now is MHZ, DDR is WAYYYYYYY behind the times, and so is RDRAM. I'm pretty upset that we have 1.6ghz+ Procs out there and all we have is 133mhz memory to use it with. Just look at RDRAM, it's at 400mhz, completely crippled by its 16bit pathways, and, still manages to whoop the sh*t(maybe not whoop, but beat) out of DDR or any other memory that is currently available. Why havent AMD and Intel pushed for higher bus speeds!!!, we all know the performance increase is HUGE going from 100mhz to 133mhz fsb. Why push the opperating frequency to such high levels when you could bump up the fsb speed by even a paltry 66mhz, ultimately producing the same results?.. Thats my question, computers could be so much faster than they are right now and that REALLY bugs me. Is there any reason why we arent seeing any large jumps in memory and fsb speed like we are seeing with Proc. speeds?. Oh, and by the way, DDR is in NO WAY twice as fast as SDRAM, that 266mhz thing is complete bull.
 

LXi

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Nobody ever claimed DDR to be twice as fast as SDR SDRAM, you probably should do some reading on that, it's called Double Data Rate, and it says Double because it has twice as much bandwidth as SDR, not twice as much speed. Imagine, our GeForce3s and Radeons will be running like dogs with SDR memory. Think about that for second. Imagine how much slower our computers will be running at with SDRAM(KT133A vs KT266A, i845 vs i850/i845DDR, need I say more?). If you have the vision of that imagination, you'd understand what DDR is doing for us today. No doubt, DDR can be faster, Front Side Bus can be faster, and they should be faster, but it's not an easy task to produce high speed DDR memory, it takes time and it doesnt happen by the flip of a coin.
 

Insane3D

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Looks nice, but didn't anyone notice this?

"The BIOS packs all the features that we're used to seeing on Shuttle boards- good stuff for tweakers. RAM can be adjusted through CAS Latency, Bank Interleave, Precharge to Active and DRAM command rate. We would like to point here that Shuttle's memory timings are very aggressive- we couldn't get any of our RAM sticks to run stably on CAS 2.0 and thus had to switch to CAS 2.5 for all benchmarks, so if you're intending on running this board on CAS 2, better make sure that you have some very high performance RAM."

Seems strange that they couldn't do CL2 with any of the memory they used...even @ 133mhz FSB. Sounds like they used good stuff too..even some of that 5ns Kingmax PC2700. Sounds like there is a problem there...
 

LXi

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I noticed that, and I was really shocked when they gave it a 20/20 for stability. Being able to run at CAS2 is one of the most basic and essential things a user should have, so I have no idea how on earth could they give it a full score for stability despite that let down.
 

joeld

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Already asked, not answered yet: What's the ETA for this board??? I want to get a mobo shipped to my door by the 14th (next friday). think this can the board on my door step, or will it come out later?
 

NFS4

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I can't weait. This BOARD WILL BE MINE!!!!!

Does NE1 want to buy an AK31 3.1 + USB 2.0 controller...barely used
 

SnowPunk98

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I just got my Epox 8KHA+ and this comes out but it doesnt look so great with the new BIOS for my board and the fact that this new shuttle cant even do cas 2
 
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