New Nvidia Titan

[tg2708]

http://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2014/02/18/bet-on-black-titan-black/

Must be a very nice card. Let the benchmarks begin.

 

[Beavermatic]

its a 780ti with 6GB of vram, and 1/3FP double precision... and DP has no effect on gamers, just compute/research. The 6GB of VRAM (though not error correcting like quadro) is nice if youre doing some insane multimonitor resolution, but outside of that, literally the exact same performance as the 780ti.

They should be labelling it as a budget compute/design card, not a gaming card.

 

[NTMBK]

Yup, now that the 780ti exists the Titan/Titan Black is just a cheap developer platform for GPGPU.

 

[Nintendesert]

I hope Wesley Snipes is getting some royalties from this.

 

[MR STROKE]

its a 780ti with 6GB of vram, and 1/3FP double precision... and DP has no effect on gamers, just compute/research. The 6GB of VRAM (though not error correcting like quadro) is nice if youre doing some insane multimonitor resolution, but outside of that, literally the exact same performance as the 780ti.

They should be labelling it as a budget compute/design card, not a gaming card.

4K monitor maybe?

(even then it doesn't look much better than the 780ti for $300 more)

 

[Beavermatic]

hmm, 1fps... I dunno. That's one of the multimon resolutions though... running on 3 monitors.

 

[Beavermatic]

oh, looks like the Titan Black has a 15mhz gain on the 780ti stock, same amouth of shaders and cores though. That might be giving it that 1fps gain in the non-sli test you've got there.

Course if you're buying factory oc'd cards like evga's then who really knows since it's anyone's guess at that point. You'll have 780ti's clocked faster than Titan Blacks and vice versa there.

 

[tential]

hmm, 1fps... I dunno. That's one of the multimon resolutions though... running on 3 monitors.

I read that graph completley wrong. I looked at the first bar and didn't see SLI and was like "lol wut...."
Then I saw the 1 fps over the 780ti.

Sad thing is, Nvidia will still make BANK off this card as fanboys rush to pick up just to have "The most expensive card!!!!"

 

[3DVagabond]

Jensen needs to keep making his Ferrari payments.

Still a nice card, just no point over the 780 ti for gamers. Unless you consider paying $100 gig for additional VRAM value.

 

[Beavermatic]

Sad thing is, Nvidia will still make BANK off this card as fanboys rush to pick up just to have "The most expensive card!!!!"

Im guilty of that... I ditched my SLI'd 680's for SLI'd Titans when they came out last year... and then ditched my Titan's for 780ti's (which the titans paid off, plus cash to spare, lol). Literally, I've not noticed a single difference in any game I've played through them all, though im sure there's been nominal differences behind the scenes in benchmarks.

Not gonna hop onto the Titan Blacks (fool me once sort of thing)... I use one monitor at 2560x1600... the 6GB of RAM on my first pair of titan's was wasted (though the video designer/modeler I sold them to apparently had much use for it). The 780ti's are more than plenty of RAM for what im playing.

higher end maxwells, on the other hand... if they surpass the 780ti's in performance, might have to grab a couple.

 

[Pandora's Box]

Im guilty of that... I ditched my SLI'd 680's for SLI'd Titans when they came out last year... and then ditched my Titan's for 780ti's (which the titans paid off, plus cash to spare, lol). Literally, I've not noticed a single difference in any game I've played through them all, though im sure there's been nominal differences behind the scenes in benchmarks.

Not gonna hop onto the Titan Blacks (fool me once sort of thing)... I use one monitor at 2560x1600... the 6GB of RAM on my first pair of titan's was wasted (though the video designer/modeler I sold them to apparently had much use for it). The 780ti's are more than plenty of RAM for what im playing.

higher end maxwells, on the other hand... if they surpass the 780ti's in performance, might have to grab a couple.

Personally I'm hoping that the high end maxwells finally give us 1440P/1600P gamers the ability to go single card and have decent performance. 780 Ti single card is not quite good enough, need SLI

 

[Beavermatic]

Personally I'm hoping that the high end maxwells finally give us 1440P/1600P gamers the ability to go single card and have decent performance. 780 Ti single card is not quite good enough, need SLI

I'm kinda hoping that too... but doesn't sound like it's gonna go that way. Looks like Maxwell is more about power efficiency than performance, and wondering if it's even going to outperform the current kepler lineup. They just released the 750ti today based on Maxwell, and it's performance was sub-kepler cards of the same budget series. Awesome for power consumption tho...

tbh... that's kind of why I think they released 780ti's and Titan Black so close to a Maxwell release, likely because the higher end Maxwell lineup is gonna come in with a whimper, and they knew that :/
implies to me that Maxwell isn't going to be overthrowing either of these kepler behemoths anytime soon...

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Excuse my ignorance, but does any car have full DP compute? This has 1/3, but I don't see much more performance coming out of a 1/2, but I don't see how they would fit a 1/1'card onto the mix either at the $10k level, with 1/3 of that going into quad sli costing $3k

 

[TreVader]

Nobody is going to pay $700-800 for an aftermarket 780ti when you get double the vram from a Titan Black for an extra $200 or so.


All the hate from the 780ti crowd must just come from realizing they no longer own the fastest single-gpu card. Don't hate on the price, you 780ti guys got ripped of just as hard. Worse if you look at the $/GB.

 

[OCGuy]

Not for a gaming boost over 780ti. Given the GPU price landscape (at least in the US), this doesn't look bad at all $$$ wise for compute.

The ASUS 760x2 would be a much better buy for gaming I would think.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121839

 

[OCGuy]

All the hate from the 780ti crowd must just come from realizing they no longer own the fastest single-gpu card. Don't hate on the price, you 780ti guys got ripped of just as hard. Worse if you look at the $/GB.

Huh? Everyone got ripped off when compared to the other? Haha.

Don't crap up this thread, please.

 

[Beavermatic]

Nobody is going to pay $700-800 for an aftermarket 780ti when you get double the vram from a Titan Black for an extra $200 or so.


All the hate from the 780ti crowd must just come from realizing they no longer own the fastest single-gpu card. Don't hate on the price, you 780ti guys got ripped of just as hard. Worse if you look at the $/GB.

Considering the Titans were $1300 a piece (though I got my second one on a epic deal)... I am a little aggravated they are charging only $1000 for a titan black.

and the Titan black's are $300 more than the 780ti. That's a pretty hefty extra charge for only 3GB of RAM extra (that I never used to begin with on my original titans) and the same performance as my SC'd evga 780ti's.

No sir, I will never do a "Titan" class card again, and that's coming from someone who had them. BECAUSE IT WAS A TREMENDOUS WASTE OF CASH.

 

[96Firebird]

Considering the Titans were $1300 a piece (though I got my second one on a epic deal)... I am a little aggravated they are charging only $1000 for a titan black.

Titan's MSRP was $1000, and I don't remember it ever going higher than that...

 

[OCGuy]

Considering the Titans were $1300 a piece (though I got my second one on a epic deal)... I am a little aggravated they are charging only $1000 for a titan black.

Umm....they launched @ $999 as well. I don't think you got an epic deal on the 2nd one, I think you got hosed on the 1st one.

All this card does is replace the original EOL Titan but with 3GB extra RAM and ~780ti specs, so I couldn't understand any hate for it. If they tried to make the card another tier above Titan, that would be another story.

 

[lavaheadache]

one more gk110 high end sku

 

[Beavermatic]

Hmmm.... I paid $1299 for a Evga Titan signature (black box, special edition thing), and half for my second one. I also remember seeing them for like $1299 on Amazon and such.

NEVERTHELESS.... I got ripped off. Whether it be $1000 or $1300... it was just not worth the pricetag to buy another card of that lineup again (to me anyway).

And I was more furious that a few months later, a $700 card based on the same architechture beat my $1300 card. And now here I sit, looking at a $1000 card that's going to give me the same performance as my $700 card and I say to myself "HA! NOT THIS TIME!"

 

[Bubbleawsome]

People complain about it being a ripoff, bit it is for compute. The Titan was a pro card that some people used for gaming.

 

[Stuka87]

People complain about it being a ripoff, bit it is for compute. The Titan was a pro card that some people used for gaming.

No, it was a cut down pro card that nVidia pushed to gaming because they knew there was people who would be ok about paying double the price for a bit more performance.

The card did work for pro's who needed the DP performance for development but without the reliability (ECC Memory) and drivers of a Quadro. But nVidia marketed it as a gaming card.

The Titan Black to me seams like a complete waste of money for anybody that wants it for gaming. Huge jump in price for no gain in performance.

 

[Grooveriding]

This is a joke card. The original Titan was also a scam card, but at the time it was the only and first gaming GK110 card with no hint of the bait/switch to come with gtx 780. Once gtx 780 came the smart money was dumping Titans for aftermarket 780s.

This black card is a real joke now. We already have full GK110 in 780ti and aftermarket cards. So 780ti is faster in all cases, the additional VRAM is useless. Unless you are a small fringe who wants the DP and doesn't want the full pro feature set or pro drivers, otherwise this card is pointless. A true fanboy's card for gaming purposes.

At least now we are wise to nvidia's new slow-drip scheme. Ignore the initial small-die 20nm 'flagship', then the overpriced pro/gaming big die card and wait for the next iteration of the big die that will come a few months later. Of course it will all probably cost 50% more with the exponential cost increases of the new node passed on to us and the mid-range discreet GPU market being eroded by Intel's improving IGPs and superior process tech.

 

[Zanovar]

Im in for 2*shrugs* *laughs*.