New Pascal Titan X!

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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/07/21/titan-x/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y02kptTItj8

It began with a bet.

Brian Kelleher, our top hardware engineer, bet our CEO, Jen-Hsun Huang, we could get more than 10 teraflops of computing performance from a single chip. Jen-Hsun thought that was crazy.

Well, we did it. The result is crazy. And, as of today, Jen-Hsun now owes Brian a dollar.

The new NVIDIA TITAN X, introduced today, based on our new Pascal GPU architecture, is the biggest GPU ever built. It has a record-breaking 3,584 CUDA cores.

We said our GTX 1080 delivers an “irresponsible amount of performance.” It was a bit reckless. But this is even more reckless.

So forget words. Here are its numbers:

11 TFLOPS FP32
44 TOPS INT8 (new deep learning inferencing instruction)
12B transistors
3,584 CUDA cores at 1.53GHz (versus 3,072 cores at 1.08GHz in previous TITAN X)
Up to 60% faster performance than previous TITAN X
High performance engineering for maximum overclocking
12 GB of GDDR5X memory (480 GB/s)
Did we go too far? Your call. Just don’t call us crazy, or you might owe Brian a dollar, too.

TITAN X will be available Aug. 2 for $1,200 direct from nvidia.com in North America and Europe, and select system builders. It is coming soon to Asia.

I guess they did not want to call it Titan P or Titan Y.

And $1200.. that's cheap!

~35% Faster than GTX 1080.
 
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Btw, I'll say it before some folks here do the obvious.

This is AMD's fault.

If only they weren't so weak and targeted mainstream first and got late with Vega. These prices are due to AMD's incapability to be competitive.

Warning for thread crapping/trolling. -Shmee
 
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Btw, I'll say it before some folks here do the obvious.

This is AMD's fault.

If only they weren't so weak and targeted mainstream first and got late with Vega. These prices are due to AMD's incapability to be competitive.
It's really not AMD's fault. According to the recent Steam survey there are more users of 1070 than all the Fury based GPUs combined.

People just don't buy AMD's high end GPUs. It makes no sense for AMD to prioritize the high end until they gain market share. It's as much our fault as it is AMD's. Meanwhile R9 380 is AMD's best sold card, in fact the best selling GPU in that segment for the past few quarters. Companies build products for the market that's there.
 
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It's really not AMD's fault. According to the recent Steam survey there are more users of 1070 than all the Fury based GPUs combined.

People just don't buy AMD's high end GPUs. It makes no sense for AMD to prioritize the high end until they gain market share. It's as much our fault as it is AMD's. Companies build products for the market that's there.

Several users have noted though that this may work against AMD and further reinforce Nvidia's halo effect.
 

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Several users have noted though that this may work against AMD and further reinforce Nvidia's halo effect.
Releasing enthusiast cards first hasn't been in AMD's favor for a long time. Even when they had the fastest card on the market (5870) they couldn't break 50% of market.
 

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It's not even the fully enabled GP102 chip, it's only 40% more cores than GTX 1080. Which means the 10xx series will be fairly short lived like the GTX 600 series was, and Pascal will get a rebadge / refresh with faster vram and different core clocks.

EDIT: 34% higher theoretical will probably translate into 30% better performance than GTX 1080. JHH said it is 60% faster than the previous Titan X, which lines up exactly.
 
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It began with a bet.

Brian Kelleher, our top hardware engineer, bet our CEO, Jen-Hsun Huang, we could get more than 10 teraflops of computing performance from a single chip. Jen-Hsun thought that was crazy.

Well, we did it. The result is crazy. And, as of today, Jen-Hsun now owes Brian a dollar.
I highly doubt any of this actually happened (not the performance part of course the whole bet story).
 

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Btw, I'll say it before some folks here do the obvious.

This is AMD's fault.

If only they weren't so weak and targeted mainstream first and got late with Vega. These prices are due to AMD's incapability to be competitive.

$1200, just like many of us predicted that NV will once again raise prices. $799-899 1080Ti was also my other prediction.

3584 Cores is a repeat of the OG Titan where NV released a cut-down flagship (full GP100 is 3840 CCs) and only later followed up with the full Titan Black. Let the milking begin!

The Titan X name is confusing imho. Should have called it Titan Pascal or something that differentiates the card from the Maxwell Titan X.

Titan X Pascal going 12GB G5X is now a sure bet that NV is saving HBM2 for GV100 unless there is a $1500-2000 Titan X Black 3840 CC slated for 2017.

NV is a genius at marketing. I am expecting 1080 / 1080 SLI owners to be putting up their cards on eBay and upgrading to this thing. Well played.
 
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You know, I'd feel a lot better about the Titan if they'd sell it for $999 as a bare card so I didn't feel like I was paying for that premium cooling that I'd throw in the garbage anyway and replace with a block. Then I'd only be in the Titan for ~$1125 and I maybe could reason that in my head.
 

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Btw, I'll say it before some folks here do the obvious.

This is AMD's fault.

If only they weren't so weak and targeted mainstream first and got late with Vega. These prices are due to AMD's incapability to be competitive.

In a race to recover the bottom, AMD gave up the middle, the top, and the ceiling.

You're right about them margins. Now they are throwing a parade for AMD making a few pennies more. NV is going to be making a few dollars more on the back of AMD and all of us.

It's been a devastating year at my job, I got enough OT just this month to buy three of these cards without sneezing. But @ $1200 per, woof!

Welps it is what it is. Though the name is fitting since this is the GTX 10 series.

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It's not even the fully enabled GP102 chip, it's only 40% more cores than GTX 1080. Which means the 10xx series will be fairly short lived like the GTX 600 series was, and Pascal will get a rebadge / refresh with faster vram and different core clocks.

What I've been suspecting since AMD is not showing up to the party in the same tier. By the time AMD gets cards out to compete with GTX 1080, it will be rebadged GTX 1170, cost $300-400 (MSRP, FE's +$100), and GTX 1180 will be a cut down GP102 (current Titan X) with Full GP102 still hiding until needed.

It's 28nm all over again just with worse showing on AMD side and jacked up prices on NV side.
 
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In a race to recover the bottom, AMD gave up the middle, the top, and the ceiling.

You're right about them margins. Now they are throwing a parade for AMD making a few pennies more. NV is going to be making a few dollars more on the back of AMD and all of us.

It's been a devastating year at my job, I got enough OT just this month to buy three of these cards without sneezing. But @ $1200 per, woof!

Welps it is what it is. Though the name is fitting since this is the GTX 10 series.
It's not a race to recover the bottom. It's a race to win the OEM notebook business and increase the TAM as they put it.. and it's a sound strategy. 15% of the top market they never had anyways.. Probably less than 3% of it.. to break their back for it makes no sense.
 

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It's not a race to recover the bottom. It's a race to win the OEM notebook business and increase the TAM as they put it.. and it's a sound strategy. 15% of the top market they never had anyways.. Probably less than 3% of it.. to break their back for it makes no sense.

Something tells me they won't even recover that market. Maybe gain some, but definitely not what they had back in the glory days of HD 5k/6k.

If Zen doesn't bring the speed, no way in hell AMD gets back anything in the laptop/notebook market. Since I don't think AMD nor Intel allow Intel CPU + AMD dGPU.
 

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What I've been suspecting since AMD is not showing up to the party in the same tier. By the time AMD gets cards out to compete with GTX 1080, it will be rebadged GTX 1170, cost $300-400 (MSRP, FE's +$100), and GTX 1180 will be a cut down GP102 (current Titan X) with Full GP102 still hiding until needed.

It's 28nm all over again just with worse showing on AMD side and jacked up prices on NV side.

It seals the deal for me; I'll either get a used GTX 980 or a 4gb RX480 now and hold off until the refreshes hit or Volta/Navi comes out. The prospect of GP104 with 12ghz G5X sounds interesting.... but the prices would need to be radically adjusted from what they are now. And who knows, maybe Polaris truly was the stop gap and Vega will be the actual leap forward we were hoping AMD would deliver. (probably not, but here's to hoping).
 

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Something tells me they won't even recover that market. Maybe gain some, but definitely not what they had back in the glory days of HD 5k/6k.

If Zen doesn't bring the speed, no way in hell AMD gets back anything in the laptop/notebook market. Since I don't think AMD nor Intel allow Intel CPU + AMD dGPU.
Well that's to be seen.. I happen to think that rx480 rx470 and rx460 will sell like hotcakes. And all the mobile polaris chips for laptops..

I see AMD going from 25% of the marketshare to up to 40% of the market with them.

Time is AMD's friend right now.. with growing Vulkan/DX12 adoption things are going in their favor. When they are finally ready to release Vega it will come in a good time and there will be a bigger AMD base to upgrade from.
 

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It's not a race to recover the bottom. It's a race to win the OEM notebook business and increase the TAM as they put it.. and it's a sound strategy. 15% of the top market they never had anyways.. Probably less than 3% of it.. to break their back for it makes no sense.

The strategy fails when AMD's products are severely less efficient and going into notebooks.

 

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It seals the deal for me; I'll either get a used GTX 980 or a 4gb RX480 now and hold off until the refreshes hit or Volta/Navi comes out. The prospect of GP104 with 12ghz G5X sounds interesting.... but the prices would need to be radically adjusted from what they are now. And who knows, maybe Polaris truly was the stop gap and Vega will be the actual leap forward we were hoping AMD would deliver. (probably not, but here's to hoping).

You're a more positive man than I am. AMD was selling us the awesome of Polaris 10 about 7 months before it launched. Not a single word for Vega.

Prices are getting stupid. Intel is running away with them and Nvidia saw the chance.

Welps, twas fun while it lasted. Haha.
 

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The strategy fails when AMD's products are severely less efficient and going into notebooks.

They are not severely less efficient. That graph doesn't account for more VRAM rx480 sports or the additional compute not used in majority of DX11 titles.

Things are changing. In Doom Vulkan rx480 is just as efficient as a 1060.
 

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You're a more positive man than I am. AMD was selling us the awesome of Polaris 10 about 7 months before it launched. Not a single word for Vega.

Prices are getting stupid. Intel is running away with them and Nvidia saw the chance.

Welps, twas fun while it lasted. Haha.

Prices ARE getting out of control. On both sides, believe it or not. RX 480's first custom AIB pricing I've seen is stupid. http://techreport.com/news/30419/powercolor-chills-the-underworld-with-a-triple-fan-devil-rx-480 $270????? WTF. There are $249 AIB GTX 1060 models.

 
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