1080Ti is looking like the first semi-affordable 4K single GPU solution. Titan X (Pascal) is more than I'm willing to pay.
It's not looking like that at all considering the card you speak of doesn't even exist.
1080Ti is looking like the first semi-affordable 4K single GPU solution. Titan X (Pascal) is more than I'm willing to pay.
It's not looking like that at all considering the card you speak of doesn't even exist.
Not on the market yet is not the same as not existing.
Pedantic snideness aside, it would be very reasonable to conclude that a slightly cut down 1080 Ti would be 4K capable, given that a Titan X (Pascal) is quite capable at 4K.
Yup forcing us into the upgrade cycle once again lol. It's the way it works. Half those settings can be turned off though. Many times I don't notice a difference between ultra or super ultra and high.Now that these cards exist, you can expect any new games created will step up the settings and require you to lower your settings again.
it would be very reasonable to conclude that a slightly cut down 1080 Ti would be 4K capable, given that a Titan X (Pascal) is quite capable at 4K.
Why would you think its reasonable to assume the 1080 Ti is even planned if AMD cannot compete with the high-end? If Vega disappoints, kiss your 1080 Ti goodbye.
You're operating on nothing but blind faith. The only time NV has pulled out a Ti card for the high end was when AMD was competing. Learn from history.
If they want to sell more than five GP102 cards in GeForce flavor then they will come out with 1080ti. Why would they design a chip and not maximize sales across a more broad market segment? A handful of people will pay $1,200.00. They will let them pay the big bucks then release a 1080ti so way more people can buy it.
Now that these cards exist, you can expect any new games created will step up the settings and require you to lower your settings again.
Why would you think its reasonable to assume the 1080 Ti is even planned if AMD cannot compete with the high-end? If Vega disappoints, kiss your 1080 Ti goodbye.
You're operating on nothing but blind faith. The only time NV has pulled out a Ti card for the high end was when AMD was competing. Learn from history.
If they want to sell more than five GP102 cards in GeForce flavor then they will come out with 1080ti. Why would they design a chip and not maximize sales across a more broad market segment? A handful of people will pay $1,200.00. They will let them pay the big bucks then release a 1080ti so way more people can buy it.
And might never exist, if Vega is underwhelming.
With kepler it was also a few months for the 780.I seriously doubt that. Even if AMD goes bankrupt tomorrow, there will still be 1080Ti. Unless you think Nvidia believes they can sell all the GP102s they produce as either Quadro or Titan, thus not cheaper than 1200 USD/1350 EUROs. I cant see that.
IMO the only question is when. Will there be like 2 months between titan and ti like in case of GM200, or will it be half of the year like in case of Kepler? I wish to know so much, cause my decision whether to buy 2 1080s now or wait for Ti hangs on it. Dont want to wait another half year, but then again, if i buy 1080s now and then in 2 months they release Ti, i will probably kill someone.
Congrats. I see the EK Titan X blocks are out on 8-12-2016Mine hits 2050 MHz when fan is cranked to 100%. Going to just leave it at stock for now until I get this on water. Very happy with the OC performance though, did not expect it to clock this high.
I'm sorry, what 1080 has an MSRP of $600 like your graph is showing?
This is correct. But let me provide a bit more back story to make this all clearer.
This whole mess began when Nvidia's CEO lied on stage, launching the GTX 1080 as a $600 product. This price was never listed on Nvidia's website, because no Nvidia-branded 1080 would ever sell for that much. But tech sites parroted the lie over and over, in some cases reviewing the 1080 FE and judging its performance based on a $600 price. This was a tremendous error on the part of these sites. They bought into the hype and did a disservice to readers.
The GTX 1080 is ultimately a $700 card that board partners can choose to discount if they wish. Some have shown that they do not wish to, particularly Asus and MSI. I think these two companies are really going to suffer lower sales this generation, as EVGA, Zotac, and Gigabyte sell equivalent products for $50-$100 less.
With 22 TFLOPS FP16 and 44 TOPS INT8 at $1200, nVidia will have a decent market for these cards even outside gaming. I also thing you're seriously underestimating the market for the absolute best video card available by three or four orders of magnitude.
I don't think that term means what you think it means.
I'm pretty sure it does. Three orders of magnitude is a thousand fold increase, four is a ten thousand fold increase.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to estimate that nVidia will sell 5000-50,000 Titan X's to people who want absolutely the best GPU available.
Really? We're still discussing the $600 "Nvidia MSRP"?
There is no Nvidia MSRP. There is an EVGA, Asus, MSI, Gigabyte, and Zotac MSRP.
None of them are $600, and they will never be $600. End of discussion.
By the way, as an example of how silly this discussion is, when AMD reduced the MSRP of the Fury to $500, most cards stayed above $500. Why? Because AMD had no reference design and couldn't set MSRP on cards it didn't manufacture. Same goes for Nvidia and custom 1080s.
Back on topic, the MSRP of the Titan X Pascal is indeed $1200, and as one review site humorously pointed out, it's not $1199, which would be standard convention for cards in a typical retail market. Keeping that extra buck Nvidia is!
With kepler it was also a few months for the 780.
Wonder what they'll do to "nerf" the 1080Ti though. Maybe they won't change a thing and consider the titan an even more overpriced founders edition.