new pc TOTALLY FINISHED

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: yosuke188
Work on the wiring... waay too messy in there

QFT

 

[Shizzle]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
How are your temps? Nice machine... But I have to agree, that you've got to clean up in there. But hey, if your temps are good.

Speaking of pics, mind if I add to my site???

yer sure go ahead

also thanks for the tips and feedback guys...mush appreciated....ill work on the wiring when i have time and post a newer picture and you can see what you think

Cheers

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970
Define what you consider *upgrade*. Say the OP goes with AM2. A year later, (example) AM30 is out and he wants to upgrade. Sadly, his current cpu, and motherboard isn't compatible, so hes forced to *replace*. And most likely, he will want to replace his card with something newer. How is this considered an upgrade path?

Then it would equally suck and not matter but last I checked, I knew about Socket AM2 (formally M2) at least back in July '05 but IIRC I heard about M2 as early as february '05... The next progressive socket change shouldn't be until at least mid '07 to '08....

That's just your own speculation. I remember when everyone was jumping on the socket 754 bandwagon and everyone was going nuts for it. Couple months later, they announce the release of the all new 939 socket. The socket that was to become the standard for all future processors. And what do ya know, a couple months later, they announce a new socket. The fact of the matter is, technology is constantly changing. Will we ever have a standard? I don't think so. It all comes down to how long you plan to keep your build.

Yes but the reason why for the change was not because of the pin out for the processor, but to support DDR2. AT LEAST if the OP had gotten a Socket AM2 based system, then the OP could use his old DDR2 memory in the next build..[/quote]


:roll:

It all matters on how much the person wants to spend anyway and how often they need/want to upgrade to run things. Besides, buying the new gen AM2 right off the bat is generally stupid. You end up paying through the nose for the "uber super fast stuff" and then you get to be a tester for all the bugs that still need to be worked out or ones that show up with real world mass exposure.[/quote]


QFT. He's missing the point. Here's a perfect example. A couple of weeks ago I ended up purchasing and building the rig you see in my sig. I knew about AM2. Did I care? No. When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

You get what I'm saying Mango?

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970
Define what you consider *upgrade*. Say the OP goes with AM2. A year later, (example) AM30 is out and he wants to upgrade. Sadly, his current cpu, and motherboard isn't compatible, so hes forced to *replace*. And most likely, he will want to replace his card with something newer. How is this considered an upgrade path?

Then it would equally suck and not matter but last I checked, I knew about Socket AM2 (formally M2) at least back in July '05 but IIRC I heard about M2 as early as february '05... The next progressive socket change shouldn't be until at least mid '07 to '08....

That's just your own speculation. I remember when everyone was jumping on the socket 754 bandwagon and everyone was going nuts for it. Couple months later, they announce the release of the all new 939 socket. The socket that was to become the standard for all future processors. And what do ya know, a couple months later, they announce a new socket. The fact of the matter is, technology is constantly changing. Will we ever have a standard? I don't think so. It all comes down to how long you plan to keep your build.

Yes but the reason why for the change was not because of the pin out for the processor, but to support DDR2. AT LEAST if the OP had gotten a Socket AM2 based system, then the OP could use his old DDR2 memory in the next build..

:roll:

It all matters on how much the person wants to spend anyway and how often they need/want to upgrade to run things. Besides, buying the new gen AM2 right off the bat is generally stupid. You end up paying through the nose for the "uber super fast stuff" and then you get to be a tester for all the bugs that still need to be worked out or ones that show up with real world mass exposure.[/quote]


QFT. He's missing the point. Here's a perfect example. A couple of weeks ago I ended up purchasing and building the rig you see in my sig. I knew about AM2. Did I care? No. When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

You get what I'm saying Mango?[/quote]

No.

If he really cared about whether or not he'd be a "beta tester" as you claim (isn't guaranteed) he could have waited until AM2 was released THEN build his system (assuming he didn't care about having to do a complete upgrade) that way he'd be purchasing the parts for less since they're already out dated but because he purchased them in this "limbo" period, he god screwed either way. They're techincally high end now because nothing else is out YET, therefore paying those premium prices but at the same time he very well knows that AM2 is coming out very soon and therefore will see the value drop dramatically in short time and won't benefit from it..

It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970
Define what you consider *upgrade*. Say the OP goes with AM2. A year later, (example) AM30 is out and he wants to upgrade. Sadly, his current cpu, and motherboard isn't compatible, so hes forced to *replace*. And most likely, he will want to replace his card with something newer. How is this considered an upgrade path?

Then it would equally suck and not matter but last I checked, I knew about Socket AM2 (formally M2) at least back in July '05 but IIRC I heard about M2 as early as february '05... The next progressive socket change shouldn't be until at least mid '07 to '08....

That's just your own speculation. I remember when everyone was jumping on the socket 754 bandwagon and everyone was going nuts for it. Couple months later, they announce the release of the all new 939 socket. The socket that was to become the standard for all future processors. And what do ya know, a couple months later, they announce a new socket. The fact of the matter is, technology is constantly changing. Will we ever have a standard? I don't think so. It all comes down to how long you plan to keep your build.

Yes but the reason why for the change was not because of the pin out for the processor, but to support DDR2. AT LEAST if the OP had gotten a Socket AM2 based system, then the OP could use his old DDR2 memory in the next build..

:roll:

It all matters on how much the person wants to spend anyway and how often they need/want to upgrade to run things. Besides, buying the new gen AM2 right off the bat is generally stupid. You end up paying through the nose for the "uber super fast stuff" and then you get to be a tester for all the bugs that still need to be worked out or ones that show up with real world mass exposure.

QFT. He's missing the point. Here's a perfect example. A couple of weeks ago I ended up purchasing and building the rig you see in my sig. I knew about AM2. Did I care? No. When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

You get what I'm saying Mango?[/quote]

No.

If he really cared about whether or not he'd be a "beta tester" as you claim (isn't guaranteed) he could have waited until AM2 was released THEN build his system (assuming he didn't care about having to do a complete upgrade) that way he'd be purchasing the parts for less since they're already out dated but because he purchased them in this "limbo" period, he god screwed either way. They're techincally high end now because nothing else is out YET, therefore paying those premium prices but at the same time he very well knows that AM2 is coming out very soon and therefore will see the value drop dramatically in short time and won't benefit from it..

It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...[/quote]

Dude, read my previous post. Do you still not get the point? Read it a couple of times if you have to.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970
Define what you consider *upgrade*. Say the OP goes with AM2. A year later, (example) AM30 is out and he wants to upgrade. Sadly, his current cpu, and motherboard isn't compatible, so hes forced to *replace*. And most likely, he will want to replace his card with something newer. How is this considered an upgrade path?

Then it would equally suck and not matter but last I checked, I knew about Socket AM2 (formally M2) at least back in July '05 but IIRC I heard about M2 as early as february '05... The next progressive socket change shouldn't be until at least mid '07 to '08....

That's just your own speculation. I remember when everyone was jumping on the socket 754 bandwagon and everyone was going nuts for it. Couple months later, they announce the release of the all new 939 socket. The socket that was to become the standard for all future processors. And what do ya know, a couple months later, they announce a new socket. The fact of the matter is, technology is constantly changing. Will we ever have a standard? I don't think so. It all comes down to how long you plan to keep your build.

Yes but the reason why for the change was not because of the pin out for the processor, but to support DDR2. AT LEAST if the OP had gotten a Socket AM2 based system, then the OP could use his old DDR2 memory in the next build..

:roll:

It all matters on how much the person wants to spend anyway and how often they need/want to upgrade to run things. Besides, buying the new gen AM2 right off the bat is generally stupid. You end up paying through the nose for the "uber super fast stuff" and then you get to be a tester for all the bugs that still need to be worked out or ones that show up with real world mass exposure.

QFT. He's missing the point. Here's a perfect example. A couple of weeks ago I ended up purchasing and building the rig you see in my sig. I knew about AM2. Did I care? No. When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

You get what I'm saying Mango?

No.

If he really cared about whether or not he'd be a "beta tester" as you claim (isn't guaranteed) he could have waited until AM2 was released THEN build his system (assuming he didn't care about having to do a complete upgrade) that way he'd be purchasing the parts for less since they're already out dated but because he purchased them in this "limbo" period, he god screwed either way. They're techincally high end now because nothing else is out YET, therefore paying those premium prices but at the same time he very well knows that AM2 is coming out very soon and therefore will see the value drop dramatically in short time and won't benefit from it..

It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...[/quote]

Dude, read my previous post. Do you still not get the point? Read it a couple of times if you have to.
[/quote]

QFT!

 

[ForumMaster]

i know nothing new is being said here, but work on the wiring and it will look good. and again, y the floppy? to buy a 10 pack of floppys today costs more then a pack of cds! y floppy? anyway, work on the wriing. Apart from that, nice rig! oh and Philippine Mango, shut up. if u wanna post crap on a forum, start ur own. don't mess someone else's. it just shows what an immature idiot u r.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i know nothing new is being said here, but work on the wiring and it will look good. and again, y the floppy? to buy a 10 pack of floppys today costs more then a pack of cds! y floppy? anyway, work on the wriing. Apart from that, nice rig! oh and Philippine Mango, shut up. if u wanna post crap on a forum, start ur own. don't mess someone else's. it just shows what an immature idiot u r.

Great spelling there "ForumMaster"! :roll: Look I think it's just stupid that he built his system when it's clear that the cycle is ending and another one is beginning. It'd be one thing if another socket was coming out but they still had plans for faster processors for 939 but they don't so hes screwed either way..

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i know nothing new is being said here, but work on the wiring and it will look good. and again, y the floppy? to buy a 10 pack of floppys today costs more then a pack of cds! y floppy? anyway, work on the wriing. Apart from that, nice rig! oh and Philippine Mango, shut up. if u wanna post crap on a forum, start ur own. don't mess someone else's. it just shows what an immature idiot u r.

Great spelling there "ForumMaster"! :roll: Look I think it's just stupid that he built his system when it's clear that the cycle is ending and another one is beginning. It'd be one thing if another socket was coming out but they still had plans for faster processors for 939 but they don't so hes screwed either way..

blah blah blah, we've heard your worthless (nonsense) opinions over and over. You tried to make a point, but failed. Now give up and GO.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i know nothing new is being said here, but work on the wiring and it will look good. and again, y the floppy? to buy a 10 pack of floppys today costs more then a pack of cds! y floppy? anyway, work on the wriing. Apart from that, nice rig! oh and Philippine Mango, shut up. if u wanna post crap on a forum, start ur own. don't mess someone else's. it just shows what an immature idiot u r.

Great spelling there "ForumMaster"! :roll: Look I think it's just stupid that he built his system when it's clear that the cycle is ending and another one is beginning. It'd be one thing if another socket was coming out but they still had plans for faster processors for 939 but they don't so hes screwed either way..

blah blah blah, we've heard your worthless (nonsense) opinions over and over. You tried to make a point, but failed. Now give up and GO.

They're not worthless it's just that you refused to listen. You couldn't care less if this kid wasted his money because it ain't yours.. Even if it was yours you seem like the kind of person who'd waste it anyways just because "it was easier". Well life ain't easy and if you want to survive, you need to tough it out or in this case, "not buying on a whim". I've already made my point, it is valid and you've yet to disprove it. You can keep believing all you want that he made a sound choice but IMO this reminds me of the people who bought apple computers right before they made "the switch".

 

[w00t]

nice rig.

 

[poisonthewell]

Congrats on the build. Sorry "someone" has to poo all over your thread with nonsense and babble.

 

[Pens1566]

I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Pens1566
I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

Why is that funny? It just shows I have better money management than both of you... Both fscking idiots, if I had hardware that was similar to both of you, it'd make me a hypocrite...

Fixed for looney,
is that better? Is it?

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Pens1566
I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

Why is that funny? It just shows I have better money management than both of you... Both fscking idiots, if I had hardware that was similar to both of you, it'd make me a hipocrit...

Money management? lol .. Whatever dude. It's none of your business how we decide to spend our money. We make it, we spend it, we enjoy it. Speaking of your 2 yr old rig, great upgrade path you got there! :laugh:

 

[Cooler]

Good job on the rig!

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: ForumMaster
i know nothing new is being said here, but work on the wiring and it will look good. and again, y the floppy? to buy a 10 pack of floppys today costs more then a pack of cds! y floppy? anyway, work on the wriing. Apart from that, nice rig! oh and Philippine Mango, shut up. if u wanna post crap on a forum, start ur own. don't mess someone else's. it just shows what an immature idiot u r.

Great spelling there "ForumMaster"! :roll: Look I think it's just stupid that he built his system when it's clear that the cycle is ending and another one is beginning. It'd be one thing if another socket was coming out but they still had plans for faster processors for 939 but they don't so hes screwed either way..

blah blah blah, we've heard your worthless (nonsense) opinions over and over. You tried to make a point, but failed. Now give up and GO.

They're not worthless it's just that you refused to listen. You couldn't care less if this kid wasted his money because it ain't yours.. Even if it was yours you seem like the kind of person who'd waste it anyways just because "it was easier". Well life ain't easy and if you want to survive, you need to tough it out or in this case, "not buying on a whim". I've already made my point, it is valid and you've yet to disprove it. You can keep believing all you want that he made a sound choice but IMO this reminds me of the people who bought apple computers right before they made "the switch".

If life is too hard for you, you should consider getting a job or a career like most of us do. Also, he didnt waste his $. He bought a great rig that will certainly last him a while. It will certainly serve its purpose. Just because you think it was a bad decision, doesnt automatically make it one. Yet again, another worthless post from yourself.

 

[imported_Stew]

Nice rig...

 

[RussianSensation]

NO!!!! AM2 is around the corner (if around is 3-4 months!). Oh no!!!! after 3-4 months, G80 is around the corner!! you are buying R580/G71 and paying a premium!!! 3-4months later....AMD releases 2nd generation of AM2 boards that finally overclock well and bugs are worked out. 3-4 months later oh no!!! Intel switches to DDR2-800; AMD is soon to follow.

Mango your point is valid but sometimes when you have to build really soon, you can't just sit there and wait 3-4 months. For some people waiting 6 months is an eternity. But if you are the type that keeps a system for 3-4 years, then yes your argument is stronger. But for someone who upgrades fully in 1-2 years, waiting for AM2 might not make as much sense.

OP, nice rig. Are you going to overclock that 3800+?

 

[TC10284]

I have the TT - Soprano version of that case and I like it very well. Nice case and specs =)

 

[SnoMunke]

Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

 

[Ranulf]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
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It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...

Bad analogy.

Depending on the year and the maker, the new models start showing up as early as september, though probably more like late Oct. to Nov.. Generally the best time to buy a car is in september or the late fall just before the new models come out. Why? The dealers want to sell off the old stock fast. You can't compare cars to computer parts very well at all.

 

[bob4432]

nice job op congrats on building it yourself. :beer:

oh no, i hope Philippine Mango doesn't realize that i just upgraded to a nf3 skt939... or his panties will be in a bunch :thumbsdown:

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Pens1566
I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

Why is that funny? It just shows I have better money management than both of you... Both fscking idiots, if I had hardware that was similar to both of you, it'd make me a hipocrit...

Instead, you're just a poor guy with bad spelling.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

OP, your pics are on the site. Let me know if you get any more updated pics, and I'll post them as well.