new pc TOTALLY FINISHED

[jc9970]

Op, I used to have that case. I'm posting a link to the pics, so you can get an idea of how to clean it up a bit. Here ya go

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

Ahh...the general idea of using a windowed case for a PC is to "show off" all the pretty hardware (e.g., fancy hsf, lights, etc.) which does NOT usually include tangled, messy wiring (unless you really LOVE spaghetti and want to envision a plate full everytime you look at the innards of your PC

 

[Azndude51]

I didn't read anyone's posts, but I think you should clean up your wiring if you're going to have a window. Also, your mouse sux Otherwise, it's pretty good.

 

[billsbury]

Holy crap, I just built a system that is VERY SIMILAR. However, I'm having problems with mine. I think bad video card. My specs are as follows:

AMD 64 3800+ X2 Dual Core
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
Kingston 1 GB PC3200 dual-channel
Western Digital 250 GB SATA II hard drive
eVGA GeForce 7800 GT video card
Antec TruePower 2.0 550W power supply

 

[SnoMunke]

Originally posted by: Budarow

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

Ahh...the general idea of using a windowed case for a PC is to "show off" all the pretty hardware (e.g., fancy hsf, lights, etc.) which does NOT usually include tangled, messy wiring (unless you really LOVE spaghetti and want to envision a plate full everytime you look at the innards of your PC

Windows in PC cases are like screendoors in submarines....just don't have any use.

Performance trumps the look at any time...

"Ah, but we like to look at the the purty lights"...

I got some grass you can watch grow too...

Back under my bridge now...

 

[Budarow]

Originally posted by: SnoMunke

Originally posted by: Budarow

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

Ahh...the general idea of using a windowed case for a PC is to "show off" all the pretty hardware (e.g., fancy hsf, lights, etc.) which does NOT usually include tangled, messy wiring (unless you really LOVE spaghetti and want to envision a plate full everytime you look at the innards of your PC

Windows in PC cases are like screendoors in submarines....just don't have any use.

Performance trumps the look at any time...

"Ah, but we like to look at the the purty lights"...

I got some grass you can watch grow too...

Back under my bridge now...

LOL...purty lights aren't for everyone, but what the heck, neither is building PCs for a "hobby"

 

[Penth]

Originally posted by: BFG10K

I never got the point of getting a floppy

It's useful for very easy BIOS flashing. CDs are clunky and flash drives are dangerous.

Flash drives are dangerous? I've had WAY WAY WAY more floppies error on me than any of my USB flash drives. Should have bought a media card reader and boot off an old 8mb cf if you need to flash.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

It takes 5 mins to do the wiring. Since he has a window, obviously he wants people to see the inside. And if looks didn't matter at all, why even bother with a case? Why not just stick it in a cardboard box (i had a computer sitting in a mobo box for about 6 months years ago)?

 

[Shizzle]

Originally posted by: jc9970
Op, I used to have that case. I'm posting a link to the pics, so you can get an idea of how to clean it up a bit. Here ya go

thanks for that itll be usefull

and thanks for the feedback guys much appreciated

and when i get updated pic ill let ya know to put on your site

 

[SnoMunke]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: SnoMunke
Wiring layout? Are you guys sh!tting me? Is it really THAT big of a deal his wiring is not "Martha Stewart" neat?? It's a frickin' COMPUTER!

OP....enjoy your rig and ignore the minutiae.

It takes 5 mins to do the wiring. Since he has a window, obviously he wants people to see the inside. And if looks didn't matter at all, why even bother with a case? Why not just stick it in a cardboard box (i had a computer sitting in a mobo box for about 6 months years ago)?

Dude! You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!! A PC housed in a cardboard box WOULD BE so cool and retro. Everybody would be sooooo envious... So run along now and build me one and let me know when it is finished...don't forget to cut a hole in the side for my "window".

Just kidding...

OP...fix your wiring...

I have said it. So let it be written. So let it be done. And to all...a goodnight.

 

[Makaveli]

"So let it be Written. So shall it be done"

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Pens1566
I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

Why is that funny? It just shows I have better money management than both of you... Both fscking idiots, if I had hardware that was similar to both of you, it'd make me a hipocrit...

Money management? lol .. Whatever dude. It's none of your business how we decide to spend our money. We make it, we spend it, we enjoy it. Speaking of your 2 yr old rig, great upgrade path you got there! :laugh:

I thought the point of anandtech and Hot Deals forum was to get the best deal possible and spend your money wisely. If money management isn't your thing because you feel that you have a "disposable income" then why didn't you get an intel extreme edition processor or FX57 with a 7800GTX 512MB card, 2GB of high quality ram, yada yada yada? I mean the FX57 is the "UUUBER gaming processor" with no games supporting dual core as of yet (obviously there are patches out but only for select games). My point is the fact that YOU thought into the future somewhat by getting that dual core system because as of this momement, there is still little benefit from multicore/SMP based systems in a 'gamers' opinion (is not my opinion).

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
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It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...

Bad analogy.

Depending on the year and the maker, the new models start showing up as early as september, though probably more like late Oct. to Nov.. Generally the best time to buy a car is in september or the late fall just before the new models come out. Why? The dealers want to sell off the old stock fast. You can't compare cars to computer parts very well at all.

Fine, does a ford mustang work better for you? God you're such a douche, I made my point and it 'appears' that you got it but are all caught up in stupid technicalities, either way, IT'S THE SAME THING IN THE COMPUTER INDUSTRY! Computer parts don't all come out at the same time but they do have similar life cycles, therefore making my statement VALID. God you're an idiot, you've already proved my point but got lost in those 'stupid' technicalities which didn't really disprove my point. :roll:

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: bob4432
nice job op congrats on building it yourself. :beer:

oh no, i hope Philippine Mango doesn't realize that i just upgraded to a nf3 skt939... or his panties will be in a bunch :thumbsdown:

Learn to read the thread numb nutz...

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Ranulf

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: jc9970
Define what you consider *upgrade*. Say the OP goes with AM2. A year later, (example) AM30 is out and he wants to upgrade. Sadly, his current cpu, and motherboard isn't compatible, so hes forced to *replace*. And most likely, he will want to replace his card with something newer. How is this considered an upgrade path?

Then it would equally suck and not matter but last I checked, I knew about Socket AM2 (formally M2) at least back in July '05 but IIRC I heard about M2 as early as february '05... The next progressive socket change shouldn't be until at least mid '07 to '08....

That's just your own speculation. I remember when everyone was jumping on the socket 754 bandwagon and everyone was going nuts for it. Couple months later, they announce the release of the all new 939 socket. The socket that was to become the standard for all future processors. And what do ya know, a couple months later, they announce a new socket. The fact of the matter is, technology is constantly changing. Will we ever have a standard? I don't think so. It all comes down to how long you plan to keep your build.

Yes but the reason why for the change was not because of the pin out for the processor, but to support DDR2. AT LEAST if the OP had gotten a Socket AM2 based system, then the OP could use his old DDR2 memory in the next build..

:roll:

It all matters on how much the person wants to spend anyway and how often they need/want to upgrade to run things. Besides, buying the new gen AM2 right off the bat is generally stupid. You end up paying through the nose for the "uber super fast stuff" and then you get to be a tester for all the bugs that still need to be worked out or ones that show up with real world mass exposure.

QFT. He's missing the point. Here's a perfect example. A couple of weeks ago I ended up purchasing and building the rig you see in my sig. I knew about AM2. Did I care? No. When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

You get what I'm saying Mango?[/quote]

No.

bob4432 the retard, start reading HERE
If he really cared about whether or not he'd be a "beta tester" as you claim (isn't guaranteed) he could have waited until AM2 was released THEN build his system (assuming he didn't care about having to do a complete upgrade) that way he'd be purchasing the parts for less since they're already out dated but because he purchased them in this "limbo" period, he god screwed either way. They're techincally high end now because nothing else is out YET, therefore paying those premium prices but at the same time he very well knows that AM2 is coming out very soon and therefore will see the value drop dramatically in short time and won't benefit from it..

It's the equivalent of purchasing a 2005 Lexus LS400 or mustang or what EVER in dec 2005.... 2006 models are right around the corner but aren't out yet so you're paying the premium of having the latest car but won't be latest for very long...[/quote]

 

[harobikes333]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Not impressed, you spent money on a system that will be quickly outdated with the release of socket AM2, your wiring sucks, you bought a 250GB drive which is IMO not exactly a good price point (unless of course you got it with rebate/discount which I doubt). You have yet to answer the question, are you finnish or did a finnish person assemble your system...

Socket M2 isn't all that geesh and also I mean new things will always come out.

Whats wrong with a 250GB?........

Finnish<--Omg no stop it now

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

Originally posted by: Pens1566
I find it amusing that the certain someone that is criticizing OP is using hardware that is > 2yrs old.

Why is that funny? It just shows I have better money management than both of you... Both fscking idiots, if I had hardware that was similar to both of you, it'd make me a hipocrit...

Instead, you're just a poor guy with bad spelling.

Oh and who said I was poor? Just because I don't waste my money building a new rig every 1-2 years, doesn't make me a "poor guy". If I really cared "that much" and only thought about my "e-penis" and wanted to waste all of my money on gaming so that I can have UBER 1337 g4m3r 3xp3r13nc3 then I'd do that but personally I don't care that much. I'm only criticizing the OP because he paid the HIGHEST PREMIUM for something that is going to be outdated much much faster than had he built it in say august (I've already expained this through my analogy which the majority have refused to read becasue either they're douches or have ADD and can't spend the time reading it) it wouldn't be THAT BAD...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: harobikes333

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango
Not impressed, you spent money on a system that will be quickly outdated with the release of socket AM2, your wiring sucks, you bought a 250GB drive which is IMO not exactly a good price point (unless of course you got it with rebate/discount which I doubt). You have yet to answer the question, are you finnish or did a finnish person assemble your system...

Socket M2 isn't all that geesh and also I mean new things will always come out.

Whats wrong with a 250GB?........

Finnish<--Omg no stop it now

LOL, calm down dude, you clearly don't understand why I chose to use the incorrectly spelled word "finnish", it was because the OP had it in his topic title and I was making fun of him, in a "light" manner anyways...

 

[Serch]

Hahaha LOLL!! a lot of LOLS!!

This is very funny! how about spending the money in b**tchs and drugs?

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
NO!!!! AM2 is around the corner (if around is 3-4 months!). Oh no!!!! after 3-4 months, G80 is around the corner!! you are buying R580/G71 and paying a premium!!! 3-4months later....AMD releases 2nd generation of AM2 boards that finally overclock well and bugs are worked out. 3-4 months later oh no!!! Intel switches to DDR2-800; AMD is soon to follow.

Mango your point is valid but sometimes when you have to build really soon, you can't just sit there and wait 3-4 months. For some people waiting 6 months is an eternity. But if you are the type that keeps a system for 3-4 years, then yes your argument is stronger. But for someone who upgrades fully in 1-2 years, waiting for AM2 might not make as much sense.

OP, nice rig. Are you going to overclock that 3800+?

First bold: Well then, it appears some people are EXTREMELY impatient if they can't wait for 6 months for something as expensive as a computer.

Italics: I am the kind of person that keeps their system for 3-4 years, infact I kept it much much longer than 3-4 years. My last system was a PII 450 with an AIW 128PRO that I kept until it's dying day, meaning that I couldn't play newer games on it anymore, not it "actually dying". I had a 1.7GHZ P4 with a 9800pro to play games along side it in the mean time when ever a game came out that wouldn't play on the older system but the 450 was *still* my main rig. Only reason I upgraded was to fix my sister's computer as the situation she was in required a system with native 48bit LBA which none of my systems had.

Second bold: Read my prior posts or my 3rd to latest post... (excludes this post)

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: Serch
Hahaha LOLL!! a lot of LOLS!!

This is very funny! how about spending the money in b**tchs and drugs?

Those don't last long, I'd rather go out with a girl and make her "my investment" than spening money on "bitches and drugs"..

 

[harobikes333]

I know why u spelt it like that, lol.

hipocrit<--So... whats the reason you spelt that word like that...?

I'm planning a build with a 3800X2 or something in that ballpark. I may wait until the AM2 comes out but unless amd releases it soon I'm not going to wait beacause I'm running a computer right now that might not even make it.

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: harobikes333
I know why u spelt it like that, lol.

hipocrit<--So... whats the reason you spelt that word like that...?

I'm planning a build with a 3800X2 or something in that ballpark. I may wait until the AM2 comes out but unless amd releases it soon I'm not going to wait beacause I'm running a computer right now that might not even make it.

Might not even make it? How do you mean? It's a rarity for one to *know* a system is about to die... Just wait until it gets released so you can take advantage of the price drops cause you're going to have the same amount of performance either now or 6 months from now...

 

[jc9970]

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

I thought the point of anandtech and Hot Deals forum was to get the best deal possible and spend your money wisely. If money management isn't your thing because you feel that you have a "disposable income" then why didn't you get an intel extreme edition processor or FX57 with a 7800GTX 512MB card, 2GB of high quality ram, yada yada yada? I mean the FX57 is the "UUUBER gaming processor" with no games supporting dual core as of yet (obviously there are patches out but only for select games). My point is the fact that YOU thought into the future somewhat by getting that dual core system because as of this momement, there is still little benefit from multicore/SMP based systems in a 'gamers' opinion (is not my opinion).

Like I said before (Read this time)

When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

Also

Who said that all I do is gaming? The main reason I went with Dual core is because I do lots of video encoding with CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder) (which supports multiple processors). And it cut my encoding time in half. Which is a huge plus.

Oh and by the way

My redlines are of high quality. They're probably the best DDR chips you can get your hands on right now. So do your research.

Oh and if your not broke, then I just think your jealous. Grow up.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Ugh, is this crap still going on in here? Any chance we can move this to P&N or OT or something?

For the OP, I'm so sorry your thread got completely sh!t on for indignant personal opinions...

 

[Philippine Mango]

Originally posted by: jc9970

Originally posted by: Philippine Mango

I thought the point of anandtech and Hot Deals forum was to get the best deal possible and spend your money wisely. If money management isn't your thing because you feel that you have a "disposable income" then why didn't you get an intel extreme edition processor or FX57 with a 7800GTX 512MB card, 2GB of high quality ram, yada yada yada? I mean the FX57 is the "UUUBER gaming processor" with no games supporting dual core as of yet (obviously there are patches out but only for select games). My point is the fact that YOU thought into the future somewhat by getting that dual core system because as of this momement, there is still little benefit from multicore/SMP based systems in a 'gamers' opinion (is not my opinion).

Like I said before (Read this time)

When I decide to build a new rig, the first thing I ask myself is, what can I purchase now that will last me until my next upgrade/replacement. (typically a year to year and a half). Now I don't have what you would call a high end setup, but my rig will easily last me a year and a half. Especially for what I use it for. And that's all I look for.

Thats perfectly fine but usually when I build a rig, I'm looking to see if my purchasing time *actually makes sense* and in this case, it doesn't...

Also

Who said that all I do is gaming? The main reason I went with Dual core is because I do lots of video encoding with CCE (Cinema Craft Encoder) (which supports multiple processors). And it cut my encoding time in half. Which is a huge plus.
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Then why didn't you wait until those quad core opteron based systems come out? I'm sure that will cut you encoding time much more than some 4400+ processor...

Oh and by the way

My redlines are of high quality. They're probably the best DDR chips you can get your hands on right now. So do your research.
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I'm sure they're high quality but I doubt they're "the best".

Oh and if your not broke, then I just think your jealous. Grow up.
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I don't think that makes any sense... I WOULD be jealous if I was broke, but because I'm NOT broke, I therefore can't be jealous as I too could build a system like that, either with my money I have in the bank or with my dad's money. You see my birthday and hanukkah has passed and guess what I got? Some clothing, a wind up flash light and a $500 coin (the coin was my only B-day present). Now sure it may LOOK like I'm being a martyr but I'm not, and do you know why? It's because my parents asked me if I wanted anything and I pretty much said, "I can't think of anything at the moment". So this season has passed and I've yet to get anything, do I feel sad for my self? Sure I do, but not in the sense YOU'RE thinking of, I'm sad because I've yet to have time to get my place organized and cleaned up, therefore not having room even if I DID ask for something. I've been so busy with school, presents/toys of this sort are a low priority. But to be perfectly honest, if I had the opportunity to ask them what to get for my B-day or for hanukkah, it would have been a nice TV..

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