New Phone: Moto X (2014) or Xperia Z3?

[s44]

These look like polar opposites in terms of battery life.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

As mentioned in the comments there, something isn't quite right with his device. If you look at the battery stats, it never once plateau's like you would expect when it goes to idle.

Battery is still kinda small though, I'm guessing it was for cost reasons.

Maybe Android Wear? I notice my N5 doesn't plateau. The drain is pretty bad with Android Wear and Play Services nlpcollectorwakelock.

 

[Demo24]

Maybe Android Wear? I notice my N5 doesn't plateau. The drain is pretty bad with Android Wear and Play Services nlpcollectorwakelock.

Did say he was using his 360 pretty regularly with it, so that might be part of it.

 

[cronos]

Did say he was using his 360 pretty regularly with it, so that might be part of it.

From what I heard, having a 360 connected actually reduces significantly the battery drain on your phone.

 

[Bateluer]

Z3 with Stamina Mode, 8 hours of SOT and 20% left on the charge.

https://twitter.com/swedroid/status/511875028447531008/photo/1

 

[lothar]

Kellex of Droid Life reports the battery life is less than stellar on the X 2014.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/09/1...buy-a-turbo-charger-just-in-case/#more-150135


I don't know what Moto was thinking with the X 2014 . . . even HTC managed to cram in a 2600mah battery into the m8.

Wow...the battery life on that thing is horrid.
Even the Nexus 5 is better than it.

In any case, I have yet to see any reason to upgrade from my Nexus 5 this fall. No 64 bit chip will be out for Android phones this year, and when they do come out next year it may make most of the ones out now almost irrelevant. No point in spending $500+ for another brick that will soon be outdated...Especially when those SnapDragon 805/801 bricks don't offer much performance improvement over SnapDragon 800 in my Nexus 5. Unless someone is coming from a Galaxy Nexus, SGS3, shitty Exynos/Tegra 3 SoC phones, and so on...There is little to no reason to cough up money on an upgrade this year.

 

[s44]

Z3 with Stamina Mode, 8 hours of SOT and 20% left on the charge.

https://twitter.com/swedroid/status/511875028447531008/photo/1

Yeah, I hadn't seen that it was stamina mode (and heh, the reddit mods correctly labeled it "Misleading" ).

A lot less impressive. Looks like the Z3c stands alone as the battery king.

 

[canestim]

Looking too, was hoping GS5 would be better. I was interested in the Moto but that battery time looks meh. The Z3 looks pretty good and PS4 remote play would be nice for me. M8 still looks the best to me, just not sold on the M8 camera. Good info in this thread about each though, still can't make up my mind.

 

[isekii]

Moto X 2014 is another failboat waiting to happen.

 

[Red Storm]

From what I heard, having a 360 connected actually reduces significantly the battery drain on your phone.

From my experience with the 360, it made my phone last longer because thanks to the watch handling most notifications, the amount of times I'd take my phone out of my pocket and turn it on went down. So it helped the phone's battery life in that it decreased the amount of time spent using the phone.

 

[s44]

From my experience with the 360, it made my phone last longer because thanks to the watch handling most notifications, the amount of times I'd take my phone out of my pocket and turn it on went down. So it helped the phone's battery life in that it decreased the amount of time spent using the phone.

Which phone? The Android Central 360 piece made me wonder whether the wildly varying battery life reports had to do with Moto's nonstandard bluetooth stack not playing nice with non-Moto devices and draining juice from the disconnection bug.

 

[s44]

And... poor battery life on the 2014 X confirmed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/4

 

[Imported]

Damn. Hoping Z3 battery tests come soon.

 

[Red Storm]

which phone? The android central 360 piece made me wonder whether the wildly varying battery life reports had to do with moto's nonstandard bluetooth stack not playing nice with non-moto devices and draining juice from the disconnection bug.

This was with the LG G3.

 

[HumblePie]

And... poor battery life on the 2014 X confirmed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/4

Why was the apple phones removed from the basemark battery life comparisons?

 

[shimpster]

A comparison of the X and Z3

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/phone-comparisons-moto-x-2014-vs-sony-xperia-z3.html

 

[isekii]

A comparison of the X and Z3

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/phone-comparisons-moto-x-2014-vs-sony-xperia-z3.html

"With the new antenna, depending upon where you hold the Moto X, the signal will change to the most advantageous place on the remaining antenna – it is said to increase the signal strength by up to 500 times! "

LoL is this guy serious about this?

 

[Mopetar]

"With the new antenna, depending upon where you hold the Moto X, the signal will change to the most advantageous place on the remaining antenna – it is said to increase the signal strength by up to 500 times! "

LoL is this guy serious about this?

Technically it could be true. If there's some way you can completely annihilate the signal that their new antenna prevents, you could probably see a 500X difference.

It's a bit like performance gains where companies claim 50% improvements year over year. What they mean is that it's only 50% in a certain context, possibly one where performance was substandard in the previous model. The average case won't be 50%, but you can still see up to a 50% performance increase, even if the overall average is 5%.

 

[Bateluer]

And... poor battery life on the 2014 X confirmed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8523/the-new-motorola-moto-x-2014-review/4

Those Basemark tests are just said. I haven't seen a phone that bad since my T-bolt and Verizon GNex. Perhaps I should strike the Moto X from my list and promote the m8 back up against the Z3.

A comparison of the X and Z3

http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/phone-comparisons-moto-x-2014-vs-sony-xperia-z3.html

Wait, the Z3 has a 32GB model? I thought it was 16GB only.

 

[s44]

Perhaps I should strike the Moto X from my list and promote the m8 back up against the Z3.

IMO only the Z3c and Note 4 are worthwhile upgrades for a 2013 owner. In between was just compromised everywhere.

 

[Bateluer]

IMO only the Z3c and Note 4 are worthwhile upgrades for a 2013 owner. In between was just compromised everywhere.

Z3c is 720p, ruled out immediately because of it. I'm interested in the compromised Xperia.

Note 4 got ruled out because its running TouchWiz. And has physical buttons.

 

[shimpster]

Those Basemark tests are just said. I haven't seen a phone that bad since my T-bolt and Verizon GNex. Perhaps I should strike the Moto X from my list and promote the m8 back up against the Z3.




Wait, the Z3 has a 32GB model? I thought it was 16GB only.

Fine print;

http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/xperia-z3/#tabs

 

[Aristotelian]

I would go with the Z3. In particular, the multi-sim variant. I have had great experience with Sony phones since the Z series branding shifted from their laptops to also include their phones.

The thing about battery life is tricky. Phones that are touted to have good battery life make me raise an eyebrow, I work in an environment where Exchange/push is on all the time, and everyone struggles a bit with hundreds of mails coming in, and hundreds more going out, per day - time critical. Some even carry these usb battery packs for their phones that they stick on the back - rather inelegant.

I read that comparison a poster linked above and I was not impressed. I do not understand the 'slow updates' issue that is mentioned regarding Sony phones - maybe that is a general comment, but on my view it does not apply at all to the Xperia line. Even the Xperia Z (original) got 4.4.4 OTA last week at some point. Is that slow? (Shrug).

 

[bigben2wardpitt]

Hoes the Xperia UI? Is it actually available on any carrier at a store?

 

[Bateluer]

Hoes the Xperia UI?

I've heard positive things about it, but I always always install Nova Launcher on my own phones.

Is it actually available on any carrier at a store?

Nope. But you can import it from the UK via Clove. First shipments expected into their store on the 22nd. If we're lucky, TMO will have them available in October. If we're not luck . . . May 2015, just after the Z4 announcement.