swilli89
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That's just not how Nintendo works.
Any maybe just maybe they are trying to change it? Nintendo 64 had the most powerful hardware and great 3rd party support.
That's just not how Nintendo works.
I'm sure it will sell I just hope they have some deals for an upgrade trade in or something. I may actually have a 4k by then.I just got a PS4 and don't feel slighted in the least. Technology marches on. I get it. If it made my current games obsolete, I'd be upset, but I lose noting in this scenario (as it's currently being understood at least).
If/when they come out with this new PS4.5 I assure you it will sell like crazy.
In addition to this, hopefully the ps4 hard drive works with the new system. So we could just swap it out and not have to reinstall everything.I will upgrade if:
1) There is an easy upgrade path
2) I can sell my old PS4 and get the new one for about $150 out of pocket at most. $200 might be a stretch
3) THIS: Load times greatly improved. I don't care how they do it. Use system memory to cache, faster hard drive, better bus to MB bandwidth. Whatever. But this is the killer feature that I will pay for!
4) I can play new games with "old" image quality because quite frankly, I don't see improved graphics as a feature. Better AI, sure. More pixels? NO!
People get updated $800 phones every 6 months and barely blink.
Updated 3 year old console and it's the end of the world?
TBH you are missing all of the point
we the 1% or 0.1% who pay attention to this might care
the general idiot masses will not care and prob wont even fing notice and they will not feel slighted
I own 2 PS4s and 3 PS3s
I will get the new one and wont blink an eye thinking about it
also people who get phones more often then yearly are paying full price so the point definitely applies
you'd rather play a game in 720p than 1080p all other things equal?
okay....
TBH you are missing all of the point
we the 1% or 0.1% who pay attention to this might care
the general idiot masses will not care and prob wont even fing notice and they will not feel slighted
I own 2 PS4s and 3 PS3s
I will get the new one and wont blink an eye thinking about it
also people who get phones more often then yearly are paying full price so the point definitely applies
also people who get phones more often then yearly are paying full price so the point definitely applies
BTW the "next" plan costs users more vs just buying phones outright its a total ripoff masked as a savings
not to threadjack but can you go into detail on this? I have a hard time understanding the Next thing. I am currently financing one of our family's phones with it.
edit: also there's an option to buyout at any time so maybe i should just do that? I can easily afford it.
I just got a PS4 and don't feel slighted in the least. Technology marches on. I get it. If it made my current games obsolete, I'd be upset, but I lose noting in this scenario (as it's currently being understood at least). I'm guessing there will be a "discount to upgrade" too - a trade in program, selling your PS4 yourself etc etc. Nobody said the PS4 needs to be thrown in the garbage.
If/when they come out with this new PS4.5 I assure you it will sell like crazy.
Any time you "buy" a phone with a plan attached you are overpaying.not to threadjack but can you go into detail on this? I have a hard time understanding the Next thing. I am currently financing one of our family's phones with it.
edit: also there's an option to buyout at any time so maybe i should just do that? I can easily afford it.
People get updated $800 phones every 6 months and barely blink.
Updated 3 year old console and it's the end of the world?
Ah no, not at all. If the PS4 Neo's additional power is used to render the same games at 4k, and the PS4 continues to run at 1080p at the exact same quality settings, then how is that "new games will run worse and look worse"? The users will continue to get the same quality that they already paid for. Zero problems here. It's not Sony's fault people are so materialistic that they get upset about not having the best three years after release.
You're making a whole lotta assumptions here. You outlined a situation where consumers are dumb and ill-informed; that's not Sony's fault at all. Also you have no idea what performance targets or quality targets they are shooting for in PS4 Neo. All signs point to the additional hardware being used for 4k rendering (which people with 1080P TV's wouldn't need anyways, and VR).
So you are the ultimate consumer advocate huh? You made like 8 assumptions in this one blurb alone. Do you have any research of facts to back any of that up?
And to highlight the bolded text, that's nowhere near reality and why people choose the platforms they choose. If someone wants to relax on the couch with a controller in hand and not worry about RAM, power supply, Windows installs and update and the million other things related to PC, then they choose a console. Three years is plenty of time for a console to sit at the same performance level before an update is released that does NOT break compatibility.
One final time, this is NOT aimed at people with 1080P televisions. Neo games will not look way better or run way better at that setting, this is targeted at gamers who haven't bought in yet due to lack of 4k, or gamers that are currently gaming on 4k but have the money to upgrade.
The more techy type people will go to upgrading their PC's over time if this is going to be a 2 year cycle thing.Phones don't count. The majority would NEVER spend $400-600 every 6 months to a year for a phone. They only do because of subsidization and it hurts the wallet less. It still baffles me why people pay so much for a phone that they only check facebook on, take selfies on and play candycrush or angry birds then brag about having the newest one, but scoff at the price of a PC or laptop.
You are getting into PC excuse territory really. Given everything, you may as well buy one, because it's going to be cheaper in the long run and do more from the beginning than any 1-2 year console 'upgrade'. The games aren't really becoming more advanced, they are just getting prettier.
The PS4 was going to lose the "premium feel" anyway when the NX releases.
A new Nintendo console with their usual strong 1st party line-up, real 3rd party support and more powerful hardware could be a major issue for Sony/MS. This is a perfectly logical move.
Phones don't count. The majority would NEVER spend $400-600 every 6 months to a year for a phone. They only do because of subsidization and it hurts the wallet less. It still baffles me why people pay so much for a phone that they only check facebook on, take selfies on and play candycrush or angry birds then brag about having the newest one, but scoff at the price of a PC or laptop.
You are getting into PC excuse territory really. Given everything, you may as well buy one, because it's going to be cheaper in the long run and do more from the beginning than any 1-2 year console 'upgrade'. The games aren't really becoming more advanced, they are just getting prettier.
My plan to upgrade is the same as yours but by the time this system will be out the ps4 won't be worth much.I'm not sure why this "6-month" buy cycle keeps being thrown around. I don't know anyone that "upgrades" anything that quickly other than their hair cut.
This is a 3 year upgrade and it is needed IMO. I bought a launch PS4 and haven't gotten much use out of it other than Destiny. You can still play any game that comes out, so nothing is changing for those that don't want to upgrade. There will be a better option for those that want to upgrade or haven't jumped in yet.
It is about time for a redesign if you look at previous generations. The 360 added an HDMI port around the 3 year mark and the PS3 did the slim design. Sony has opted to upgrade the actual hardware too, which is a good idea so they can continue to command the full $399.
I'd consider upgrading if they offered a decent upgrade path. No way am I dropping $399 on one, but if I could trade in mine for a decent price then I may. FWIW, you can get a little over $200 right now for Amazon trade in so that is half your price. That will definitely go down in the future.