New Raptor is out

[Makaveli]

The new Raptor benchmarks are here

http://www.storagereview.com/articles/200601/WD1500ADFD_1.html

What are your thoughts? Would like to hear from all the raptor haters out there aswell.
Quite a few in this forum. The drive pretty much owns everything SATA.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Except it can't compare to the Seagate warranty.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Pretty nice numbers, but not worth the price to me. It's true that the storage system is the slowest link in computers today, but I can't see myself paying more than twice the money for just over half the storage space compared to my current drive, even if it is faster.

 

[Nocturnal]

meh

 

[GTaudiophile]

REPOST!

 

[Makaveli]

cmdrdredd? what Seagate Warranty are u talking about the 5yr warranty on there drives?

 

[thescreensavers]

it $300 hello 150gb for $300 I will pass also it cant copmpete to seagates warenty

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
cmdrdredd? what Seagate Warranty are u talking about the 5yr warranty on there drives?

yep that's it because when i'm buying an item that's over $100 I wanna know that it's not junk if something happens down the line.

Speed is good, but how fast do you really need to be?

 

[Nocturnal]

How long is the WD warranty? Isn't it normally five years?

 

[Makaveli]

lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

 

[n7]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

Since you claim to know so much about the warranties, why don't you explain to use what the differences between them are?

Oh, & does Seagate even have advanced RMA like WD?

I RMAed my original Raptor using advanced RMA even though i still don't know for sure what was wrong with it, & they had a new one at my door in a few days...no questions asked.

To me, that's about as good as it can get...

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

For starters No company and I mean no company ever covers abuse, only some Insurance companies coverage that can be purchased on retail products. Trust me if Seagate could prove you abused your drive they wouldn't cover it, just as if WD couldn't prove you abused your drive they would have to cover it.

 

[Megatomic]

I wonder how much one of these are gonna cost? I'm interested.

 

[poisonthewell]

I've been waiting for a more expensive overrated drive to RMA from them . . .

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

For starters No company and I mean no company ever covers abuse, only some Insurance companies coverage that can be purchased on retail products. Trust me if Seagate could prove you abused your drive they wouldn't cover it, just as if WD couldn't prove you abused your drive they would have to cover it.

Think so? When I called them I told them that my PSU overvolted and burned the drive's PCB. They gave me an RMA number anyway.

 

[Makaveli]

If I didn't have a 74GB raptor I would be interested in one of them for sure. Right now I would rather find a way to upgrade the New firmware on my raptor. WD doesn't have the tool available on their site, or the firmwares for the raptors. the new Firmware for the 74GB model gives some nice improvements. But hey u never know I could always sell my raptor which would atleast pay half the cost of the new model

 

[DaveSimmons]

I've never been a hater, any more than I hate an A64 FX57 CPU. I just don't recommend them to most buyers because they are a bad value unless price really is not a concern.

If you're building a $5,000 gaming rig, go ahead and put a couple of these in RAID and run 2 x 7800GTX-512 cards in SLI.

If you're on a budget, spending an extra $150+ on your hard drive means cutting back on your CPU or video card. Raptor150 + 6600GT or $100 drive + 7800GT?

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: thescreensavers
it $300 hello 150gb for $300 I will pass also it cant copmpete to seagates warenty

Honestly this is about time and the right price. The raptor prove to be worth 200 for a drive half that size this is the first time that the price didn't exponentially increase as capcities got larger. Think the 400GB drives are hitting $220 amd last I checked a 500GB drive was running 360 a 140$ increase and 75% of the cost of a new 400GB drive. The 74GB vs. the 150GB Raptor your talking about 50% increase to double the size.

To me this a great thing.

 

[Wall7486]

The raptors are basically targeted to the enthusiasts. Most of the home user will not see a significant gains from a raptor. The raptors are just like SLi, you can go by without it but is not bad having one if you got the money for it. I have a 74GB raptor myself and I don't regret buying it because I do see improvements in the speed when I back up file on a daily basis. I guess the point i'm making is that it's not for everyone.

 

[Makaveli]

cmdrdredd I guess you have never rma's a WD drive before. all u have to do is go to there site. put in the serial number for the drive, write the reason for and they issue a RMA number at the same time. Once u send it in and they can test it to see its not user error. You get your Replacement. And as n7 pointed out before there advanced RMA option is excellent aswell.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

For starters No company and I mean no company ever covers abuse, only some Insurance companies coverage that can be purchased on retail products. Trust me if Seagate could prove you abused your drive they wouldn't cover it, just as if WD couldn't prove you abused your drive they would have to cover it.

Think so? When I called them I told them that my PSU overvolted and burned the drive's PCB. They gave me an RMA number anyway.

Thats not abuse (you did say you fried it) and their personal beliefs mean nothing if they can't prove it. Maybe HDD drew to much or shorted, proof burns in that fried cap or other IC. Have you ever taken a computer to three techs and had three different answers on possible problems. Most techs when they hear a set of symptoms will decide whatever they think is the most likely problem.

Also Most companies always tell lvl 1 techs to never admit a failure in you product but don't accuse customer. By blaming the PSU they can come out smelling like roses. Its not their fault, or your fault, and they replaced it anyways. Did they run tests on your PSU to see if their was an overvolting issue?

 

[Makaveli]

I agree Wall7486, but the raptor weren't targeted for enthusiasts, they were low cost solutions for SCSI on mid to low end servers. The were just so fricken fast and affordable compared to scsi that enthusiasts starting buying them up like crazy.

also to carify when I say fast and affordable compared to scsi there is more emphasis on cost. SCSI drives in Servers with server loads are still faster than raptors.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd

Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

For starters No company and I mean no company ever covers abuse, only some Insurance companies coverage that can be purchased on retail products. Trust me if Seagate could prove you abused your drive they wouldn't cover it, just as if WD couldn't prove you abused your drive they would have to cover it.

Think so? When I called them I told them that my PSU overvolted and burned the drive's PCB. They gave me an RMA number anyway.

Thats not abuse (you did say you fried it) and their personal beliefs mean nothing if they can't prove it. Maybe HDD drew to much or shorted, proof burns in that fried cap or other IC. Have you ever taken a computer to three techs and had three different answers on possible problems. Most techs when they hear a set of symptoms will decide whatever they think is the most likely problem.

Also Most companies always tell lvl 1 techs to never admit a failure in you product but don't accuse customer. By blaming the PSU they can come out smelling like roses. Its not their fault, your fault, and they replaced it anyways. Did they run tests on your PSU to see if their was an overvolting issue?

Nope but maxtor would not replace my other drive for the same problem. They said that their warranty didn't cover that issue or something. So Seagate sold me, plus I've had an SCSI Ultra-320 RAID-5 with Seagate Cheeta drives running for over 4 years 24/7 with no problems ever. Every drive has a warranty that expired well over 2 years ago.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Makaveli
I agree Wall7486, but the raptor weren't targeted for enthusiasts, they were low cost solutions for SCSI on mid to low end servers. The were just so fricken fast and affordable compared to scsi that enthusiasts starting buying them up like crazy.

also to carify when I say fast and affordable compared to scsi there is more emphasis on cost. SCSI drives in Servers with server loads are still faster than raptors.

Not true the Raptor while designed as entry lvl server type HDD, they marketed it and sold it retail as an ethusiests drive. Their is still to much belief in the stability and overall performance of SCSI to make a dent in any non-hobbiests servers.