New Raptor is out

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Makaveli

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ok well the first part of your statement is basically what I said, but as for the rest I stand corrected, unless anyone else has anything to say about it?
 

Topweasel

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Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Topweasel
Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
Originally posted by: Makaveli
lol u guys do know all the raptors carry a 5year warranty! and have since day 1!

There are limitations to that warranty though. Seagate has replaced a drive that had a fried board which I did.

For starters No company and I mean no company ever covers abuse, only some Insurance companies coverage that can be purchased on retail products. Trust me if Seagate could prove you abused your drive they wouldn't cover it, just as if WD couldn't prove you abused your drive they would have to cover it.

Think so? When I called them I told them that my PSU overvolted and burned the drive's PCB. They gave me an RMA number anyway.

Thats not abuse (you did say you fried it) and their personal beliefs mean nothing if they can't prove it. Maybe HDD drew to much or shorted, proof burns in that fried cap or other IC. Have you ever taken a computer to three techs and had three different answers on possible problems. Most techs when they hear a set of symptoms will decide whatever they think is the most likely problem.

Also Most companies always tell lvl 1 techs to never admit a failure in you product but don't accuse customer. By blaming the PSU they can come out smelling like roses. Its not their fault, your fault, and they replaced it anyways. Did they run tests on your PSU to see if their was an overvolting issue?

Nope but maxtor would not replace my other drive for the same problem. They said that their warranty didn't cover that issue or something. So Seagate sold me, plus I've had an SCSI Ultra-320 RAID-5 with Seagate Cheeta drives running for over 4 years 24/7 with no problems ever. Every drive has a warranty that expired well over 2 years ago.

Since when did WD become Maxtor. Infact you should be worried now that Seagate purchased Maxtor. Maxtor was in a world of hurt due to their warranty costs, they probably did what any company does when money is tight, don't cover it if you don't have to. They probably by policy rejected a % of RMAs and waited to see if it escalated. If you call and complain threaten to take them to the BBB then they take it back and handle it correctly this time. You would be surprised how many people would walk away unfufilled with that tactic.
 

Spike

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I am a raptor hater but only because of the noise. My Hitachi T7k250 is one of the fastest SATA II drives out there but is also one of the most silent, so that works for me. I would LOVE a raptor if they could quiet them down.

-spike
 

secretanchitman

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if only the raptor150 would drop in price...300 is a bit too much.

but...i was hoping for a little better performance than the 74GB and the refreshed drives over the years. sure, 16MB cache, NCQ, native SATA 150MBs, and all make it a better drive then the original 36 and 74, but...i would still go for a 74GB IMO, as a $150 increase for twice the space, the listed features and only up to a 20% gain isnt that worth it. if it was like 40% or something, maybe i would have considered buying it.

thats just me.
 

arcenite

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You know the fanboys are tight for a comeback when they start comparing warranties :Q
 

maluckey

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Let's see.....

During an intense game how much difference does the speed of the HDD drive mean? That's right!! Nada. Spend the $$ where it matters...CPU/GPU/RAM/Mobo/HDD/DVD almost always in that order for maximum gaming pleasure.

Spending 150 bucks extra to save 2 seconds of initial load time, versus a faster vid card and virtually infinite storage is good for...?

Got over 1GB RAM and a 256 MB vid card? Save the $$ and only replace the drive you have if it's dead. By the time you need a drive, buy the middle fo the line unit which is certainly faster than the one it replaces.

Just my 2 cents worth.
 

biostud

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I would like one, but I'm not willing to pay that kind of money for a harddrive. If the price was ~$200, I'd be tempted to buy one.
 

bob4432

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i would still rather pay $200 for a 15k rpm u320 scsi and have a large storage drive, but that is just me
 

imported_rod

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One thing I noticed:

It says the new raptor has NCQ
the manufacturer finally moves the Raptor series to a native SATA implementation complete with NCQ
but it says it is only SATA 150
the Raptor features a standard first-generation 150 MB/sec interface rather than the 300 MB/sec conduit found on many newer units

I thought NCQ was only featured on SATA2/SATA300 drives?

RoD
 

007ELmO

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You guys are too careful, be more careless. I honestly don't look much at the warranty of an item when buying it.
I can't thikn of one time I had to get a product replaced in my life. If I did have to get it replaced, $200-300 isn't that much at all. Forget the warranty, get hte better drive - ******.

That's like buying a Kia or whichever car has a 10 year 100K mile warranty. Grrr-Bah.
 

Asthmaboy

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I would love to get my hands on one of these babies.
Would have my 7200 250 gig Western Digital, and then would have the 150 10k rpm for transferring sstuff fast.
As long as I'm patient, I can get by with the 250, but would love to be able to use the much faster drive at my disposal.
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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Should I do one 150GB Raptor for $300 or one 74GB Raptor and one Samsung Spinpoint 160GB (234GB total) for around $230?
 

Asthmaboy

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Right now, it's best to go with the 74 and get a cheap but bigger HD to equal the $300 price tag of the 150.
Only my input, though.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Asthmaboy
Right now, it's best to go with the 74 and get a cheap but bigger HD to equal the $300 price tag of the 150.
Only my input, though.

agree, with the sales you may able to even get a larger 7.2krpm hdd and also the 74GB raptors should be coming down in price
 

natto fire

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meh
I'm not really a hater, but I refuse to pay over $.75 a gig for a HDD. That quickly disqualifies the raptor...
 

aatf510

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The Seagate 7200.9 does look really bad in "this" review, it's the slowest among all 7200rpm drives, it's the noisiest and noisier to the raptors, it's consumes the most power among all SATA drives, and according to the storage review it's nowhere as reliable as the raptors.

Oh yea, I forget about the 5 year warranty that "both" the raptors & the seagate has, however, after 3 years, a 7200rpm drive is just gonna be so outdated and you already want to dump it in the trash (think about your 3 year old 7.2k drive), but I think the a new raptor is just going to cost as much after several years.
 

chilled

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Has anyone compared the Raptor against SATA RAID? I went with 2 x 200GB Maxtor10's for my new PC. In the UK, it was about 15% than a 74GB Raptor.

I know RAID doesn't make a huge difference, but the system does 'feel' more responsive.
 

Mavrick007

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Originally posted by: Captain Howdy
meh
I'm not really a hater, but I refuse to pay over $.75 a gig for a HDD. That quickly disqualifies the raptor...

I would pay $1 a Gig if it was a fast enough drive.. that would still bring the price down to around $150 which is fair to me, but I guess not to WD heh.
 

RebateMonger

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The only reason that I "hate" Raptors is because I spend too much time trying to assist people who take two of them and RAID 0 them and proceed to lose all their data because they didn't make backups.
 

Vegito

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Originally posted by: RebateMonger
The only reason that I "hate" Raptors is because I spend too much time trying to assist people who take two of them and RAID 0 them and proceed to lose all their data because they didn't make backups.

but thats not raptor's fault.. its between the keyboard and chair..
 
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