New Raptor is out

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PingSpike

Lifer
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Raptors are nice...but they just aren't worth their price premium IMO. I'd rather spend the extra money on a better video card and wait an extra 5 seconds for my games to load. Once they are loaded, I don't really care anymore.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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For 300 bucks probably not worth it for me. Honestly I am not interested in having a 150GB boot drive. The 74GB raptor was perfect because it wasnt too big but fast and under 200 bucks.

Be nice if they could come out with a 3rd edition of the 74GB Raptor with the same specs for about 170 bucks.

For storage purposes I can go buy some 250+GB 7200 RPM drive for 100 bucks.
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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Apr 22, 2005
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The whole point of getting a Raptor is to use it as an OS/Apps drive, and 150GB is pretty much overkill for that. 74GB is more than enough. 36GB should be fine too. But the 36GB Raptor is about as fast as current gen SATA drives with 16MB of cache which cost a lot less, so the best solution for enthusiasts should be a 36GB 10k/15k RPM SCSI drive.
 

ProviaFan

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Mar 17, 2001
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This is really almost too big to be practical for an OS and applications drive (maybe not if you have lots of games installed, but I don't). However, my 36GB Raptor has been showing its age, and if I replace it, this will probably be the drive that I will get.
 

NYTRIDR

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Dec 30, 2005
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WD has by far the best warranty in the business. I have two raptors running in my system right now that i have yet to replace...good thing i have another 4 years on my warranty.
 

poisonthewell

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Originally posted by: NYTRIDR
WD has by far the best warranty in the business. I have two raptors running in my system right now that i have yet to replace...good thing i have another 4 years on my warranty.


What makes the WD warranty superior to one of, say, a Seagate?

Not starting an argument just curious as to what criteria you are using to make your judgement.
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: poisonthewell
Originally posted by: NYTRIDR
WD has by far the best warranty in the business. I have two raptors running in my system right now that i have yet to replace...good thing i have another 4 years on my warranty.


What makes the WD warranty superior to one of, say, a Seagate?

Not starting an argument just curious as to what criteria you are using to make your judgement.

or the fujitsu scsi?
 

TSS

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Nov 14, 2005
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guys guys guys leave the warrenty alone about now... thats about the last thing you should worry about. rather have a drive with a 2 year warrenty that performs good than a 5 year unlimited warrenty, while performing like ****.

im wondering how 2 of these new raptors compare in raid 0 to 2 old raptors. since im gonna buy my new cmoputer within a month or 2 i would like to see that and make up my mind
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: TSS
guys guys guys leave the warrenty alone about now... thats about the last thing you should worry about. rather have a drive with a 2 year warrenty that performs good than a 5 year unlimited warrenty, while performing like ****.

im wondering how 2 of these new raptors compare in raid 0 to 2 old raptors. since im gonna buy my new cmoputer within a month or 2 i would like to see that and make up my mind

i would disagree, when i buy hardware, the warranty is always part of the equation especially if you are payin $300 for a 150GB SATA hdd...
 

ProviaFan

Lifer
Mar 17, 2001
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I'm still unclear on why Western Digital's 5 year warranty on the Raptor can be determined to be so undesirable, based on a comparison of Seagate's and Maxtor's warranty experiences in one case by one person? Maybe I'm forgetting evidence posted in another part of the thread (I did just scan parts of it). If so, please point me to the clue. Otherwise, a "clue" is what Raptor-bashers who bash based on supposed "lack" of warranty lack.
 

fire400

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Nov 21, 2005
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I like the Raptors because they are SATA universal. Cons of SCSI drives is that not very many motherboards support the connectivity be default, and thus you have to go out and buy a PCI or PCI-x interface SCSI card. So I support Raptor drives all the way if you just want very good hard drive performance on SATA. SCSI if you want faster.
 

randomlinh

Lifer
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Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: TSS
guys guys guys leave the warrenty alone about now... thats about the last thing you should worry about. rather have a drive with a 2 year warrenty that performs good than a 5 year unlimited warrenty, while performing like ****.

im wondering how 2 of these new raptors compare in raid 0 to 2 old raptors. since im gonna buy my new cmoputer within a month or 2 i would like to see that and make up my mind

i would disagree, when i buy hardware, the warranty is always part of the equation especially if you are payin $300 for a 150GB SATA hdd...

you highlight SATA as if it's a bad thing. It's a raptor drive... aka an enterprise drive. It'll be fine. It may not be worth it, but it'll be fine.
 

Dunbar

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Feb 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: fire400
I like the Raptors because they are SATA universal. Cons of SCSI drives is that not very many motherboard support the connectivity be default, and thus you have to go out and buy a PCI or PCI-x interface SCSI card. So I support Raptor drives all the way if you just want very good hard drive performance on SATA. SCSI if you want faster.

Not to mention how much longer it takes to detect the SCSI card (and then boot from the SCSI HD). Boot/OS load speed is one of the big benefits of a 10k RPM HD.

 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: randomlinh
Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: TSS
guys guys guys leave the warrenty alone about now... thats about the last thing you should worry about. rather have a drive with a 2 year warrenty that performs good than a 5 year unlimited warrenty, while performing like ****.

im wondering how 2 of these new raptors compare in raid 0 to 2 old raptors. since im gonna buy my new cmoputer within a month or 2 i would like to see that and make up my mind

i would disagree, when i buy hardware, the warranty is always part of the equation especially if you are payin $300 for a 150GB SATA hdd...

you highlight SATA as if it's a bad thing. It's a raptor drive... aka an enterprise drive. It'll be fine. It may not be worth it, but it'll be fine.

i bolded it because it is still a sata hdd, enterprise or not. the maxline III is a "enterprise" hdd too....i guess i am just stubborn in my ways
 

bob4432

Lifer
Sep 6, 2003
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Originally posted by: Dunbar
Originally posted by: fire400
I like the Raptors because they are SATA universal. Cons of SCSI drives is that not very many motherboard support the connectivity be default, and thus you have to go out and buy a PCI or PCI-x interface SCSI card. So I support Raptor drives all the way if you just want very good hard drive performance on SATA. SCSI if you want faster.

Not to mention how much longer it takes to detect the SCSI card (and then boot from the SCSI HD). Boot/OS load speed is one of the big benefits of a 10k RPM HD.

i turn my computer on 1x a day, so i really don't care if it took 10mins to boot up...this boot up time is a dead horse and means nothing.
 

NYTRIDR

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Dec 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: poisonthewell
Originally posted by: NYTRIDR
WD has by far the best warranty in the business. I have two raptors running in my system right now that i have yet to replace...good thing i have another 4 years on my warranty.


What makes the WD warranty superior to one of, say, a Seagate?

Not starting an argument just curious as to what criteria you are using to make your judgement.

no argument needed. the simple fact is that a wd warranty covers just about everything short of user inflicted damage. the seagate does not cover other hardware issues. plus the technicians ability to speak english and quick understanding of what the problem is without you having to explain a bad HDD for an hour to a person who barely knows what a HDD is.
 

Makaveli

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Feb 8, 2002
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I also like the fact that WD has a Repair center in my city, So even if I have to do a standard RMA I get the drive back in 3-4 days. So I guess i'm kinda bias
 

Capt Caveman

Lifer
Jan 30, 2005
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FWIW - some folks don't mind spending $150 on a Raptor compared to $100 on a 250-300gb harddrive.

And for a game like Battlefield2, getting on the map two seconds before eveyone else can give you a huge advantage.

As many have mentioned, my 74gb raptor is all I need for my o/s and apps. I've got five other drives for everything else.
 

NYTRIDR

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lol i join about 15 secs before anyone else. im done bombing their planes and helos before they even load.
 
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