New Rig, how good is it?

[Jacky60]

That rig would just about be mid range if CPU unlocked and overclocked. As it stands it's the sort of rig I'd give my GF for web surfing/email and watching you-tube with a very occasional light gaming capability. To make it feel like a modern PC definitely get an SSD. I used a friends PC without one recently and was shocked at all the waiting time. How good is it...I'd say 37%.

 

[Godlik3]

Really? with all stock parts it plays modern games, but low settings. I got good reviews with the new parts, and it seems as my CPU is fine now, but it would increase FPS if i did OC it. Well, I just what 1080p gaming with 50 FPS+

 

[Jacky60]

Now that I think about it I'll go 43%. My primary school teacher would write 'must try harder' on shoddy school work. I think that applies here. However you're keen so I've bumped up the percentage. It's the best I can do. :\

 

[Bryf50]

That rig would just about be mid range if CPU unlocked and overclocked. As it stands it's the sort of rig I'd give my GF for web surfing/email and watching you-tube with a very occasional light gaming capability. To make it feel like a modern PC definitely get an SSD. I used a friends PC without one recently and was shocked at all the waiting time. How good is it...I'd say 37%.

You'd give someone an i7 3770 and a 7950 for web browsing and youtube...

Really? with all stock parts it plays modern games, but low settings. I got good reviews with the new parts, and it seems as my CPU is fine now, but it would increase FPS if i did OC it. Well, I just what 1080p gaming with 50 FPS+

Anyway a 7950 or 7970 and a psu would be a good choice. Should be fine for High settings 60 fps@1080p. Don't need to touch anything else. An SSD would speed up some tasks but wouldn't do much if gaming was your main concern.

 

[tweakboy]

YOu can OC for free up to 3.8 to 4Ghz without touching voltage. and ya get a ssd it will change your life.

 

[ocre]

That rig would just about be mid range if CPU unlocked and overclocked. As it stands it's the sort of rig I'd give my GF for web surfing/email and watching you-tube with a very occasional light gaming capability. To make it feel like a modern PC definitely get an SSD. I used a friends PC without one recently and was shocked at all the waiting time. How good is it...I'd say 37%.

gave away a 3770 so you could rock the 2008 i7 920?

yeah sure :whiste:

an unlocked and overclocked 3770 would just about be mid range?

yeah sure :whiste:

Anyway..............

OP
if you get a new PSU and a GPU upgrade it would be a decent system. It would be better than 95% of all PCs out there. I dont know how someone can say something like this. Its really bizarre. The i7 3770 is a great CPU. This is a fast chip. One of the fastest x86 cpus there is. An overclocked 3770 is even faster. You are talking the top performing chips. The i7 3770 is nearly as fast as the i7 4770, i mean they are very very close. The difference is 4-5%.....nothing. Not even noticeable.

I would take a 3770 at stock over any overclocked i7 920. The 920 at stock uses twice the power of a 3770. Its performance is laughable compared to the 3770. If you pushed the i7 920 to the max of max overclock it would use like 4 times the power of a 3770 and still probably wouldnt match its performance. Its a power hog, i know i have one.

The 3770 is a great CPU. Dont listen to people who try to put it down. This CPU will serve you for a long time. Just as the i7 920 from 2008 is still serving me.

 

[Godlik3]

gave away a 3770 so you could rock the 2008 i7 920?

yeah sure :whiste:

an unlocked and overclocked 3770 would just about be mid range?

yeah sure :whiste:

Anyway..............

OP
if you get a new PSU and a GPU upgrade it would be a decent system. It would be better than 95% of all PCs out there. I dont know how someone can say something like this. Its really bizarre. The i7 3770 is a great CPU. This is a fast chip. One of the fastest x86 cpus there is. An overclocked 3770 is even faster. You are talking the top performing chips. The i7 3770 is nearly as fast as the i7 4770, i mean they are very very close. The difference is 4-5%.....nothing. Not even noticeable.

I would take a 3770 at stock over any overclocked i7 920. The 920 at stock uses twice the power of a 3770. Its performance is laughable compared to the 3770. If you pushed the i7 920 to the max of max overclock it would use like 4 times the power of a 3770 and still probably wouldnt match its performance. Its a power hog, i know i have one.

The 3770 is a great CPU. Dont listen to people who try to put it down. This CPU will serve you for a long time. Just as the i7 920 from 2008 is still serving me.

Thanks!, DO you think ill do well in gaming? like 1080p modern games at like 50-60 fps? thats my aim for this pc

 

[toyota]

if only there was a place we could search and look for reviews. maybe one day but for now we can only guess at how a 7950 will perform at 1080...

 

[cmdrdredd]

Thanks!, DO you think ill do well in gaming? like 1080p modern games at like 50-60 fps? thats my aim for this pc

Probably can be done. Maybe not at max but there's one thing for certain that the more settings you turn on in the game, the less your CPU matters and the more the GPU matters. Not to say the CPU becomes irrelevant, but when people talk about CPU limited you aren't CPU limited when you start adding AA and such.

I had a 3.8Ghz Q9950 with 8GB DDR2 @ 896 and a single overclocked GTX 670 at one point. Here's a few benchmarks I did. As you can see it is entirely possible depending on the game to get 50-60fps averages. You may have to turn off AA or a few settings like shadows etc to hold that number depending on the game. Your 3770 is much faster than my Q9550 is even with 400Mhz less. A 7950 overclocked matches or beats an overclocked GTX 670 as well. So I think your system would do better than my results below. An SSD does not help fps but it does help with loading times and general OS tasks so I do recommend trying to budget for one as the difference is night and day.

All games are 16xAF 4xAA 1920x1200 with max in game settings except crysis 2 with AA turned off, but I did run with DX11 and High Resolution textures. Batman was run with Physx off.

3DMark 11 performance preset
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = 7627

Dirt3
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = Min: 55.75 Avg: 75.56

Crysis built in benchmarks(average of 3 runs)
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = cpu: 48.83 gpu: 46.87

Crysis2 Adrenaline benchmark (central park)
Q9550 w/ GTX 670 = min: 25.2 avg: 58.7

Batman Arkham City
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = min: 19 avg: 83 max: 119


Far Cry 2 (Ranch Small)
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = min: 74.89 avg: 106.76 max: 167.30

 

[Godlik3]

if only there was a place we could search and look for reviews. maybe one day but for now we can only guess at how a 7950 will perform at 1080...

I just want people who have owned/know alot more then just a simple review.. jeez

 

[Godlik3]

Probably can be done. Maybe not at max but there's one thing for certain that the more settings you turn on in the game, the less your CPU matters and the more the GPU matters. Not to say the CPU becomes irrelevant, but when people talk about CPU limited you aren't CPU limited when you start adding AA and such.

I had a 3.8Ghz Q9950 with 8GB DDR2 @ 896 and a single overclocked GTX 670 at one point. Here's a few benchmarks I did. As you can see it is entirely possible depending on the game to get 50-60fps averages. You may have to turn off AA or a few settings like shadows etc to hold that number depending on the game. Your 3770 is much faster than my Q9550 is even with 400Mhz less. A 7950 overclocked matches or beats an overclocked GTX 670 as well. So I think your system would do better than my results below. An SSD does not help fps but it does help with loading times and general OS tasks so I do recommend trying to budget for one as the difference is night and day.

All games are 16xAF 4xAA 1920x1200 with max in game settings except crysis 2 with AA turned off, but I did run with DX11 and High Resolution textures. Batman was run with Physx off.

3DMark 11 performance preset
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = 7627

Dirt3
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = Min: 55.75 Avg: 75.56

Crysis built in benchmarks(average of 3 runs)
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = cpu: 48.83 gpu: 46.87

Crysis2 Adrenaline benchmark (central park)
Q9550 w/ GTX 670 = min: 25.2 avg: 58.7

Batman Arkham City
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = min: 19 avg: 83 max: 119


Far Cry 2 (Ranch Small)
Q9550 w/GTX 670 = min: 74.89 avg: 106.76 max: 167.30

Yes, just what im looking for! thanks alot! Its just this is my first pc modification and i dont have much experience at all.

 

[Jaydip]

if only there was a place we could search and look for reviews. maybe one day but for now we can only guess at how a 7950 will perform at 1080...

:biggrin:

 

[toyota]

I just want people who have owned/know alot more then just a simple review.. jeez

7950 has been out for well over 1.5 years and there are so many reviews that its insane. heck pick ANY high end card review and the 7950 will be in there. I just dont get what you think someone is going to tell you about performance that has not been either mentioned or shown hundreds of times already. I did not have to ask anybody how my 660ti would do at 1080. I simply looked at the multitude of reviews.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Yes, just what im looking for! thanks alot! Its just this is my first pc modification and i dont have much experience at all.

No problem. Overclocking can really be a game changer as well. Going from 3.4Ghz to 4.5Ghz with the right cooling is pretty amazing. That said, it is a daunting task for someone unfamiliar with the BIOS and how turbo frequencies work and voltages. If you are uncomfortable with tweaking for max performance then I would definitely recommend sticking with a stock CPU for the time being. Maybe when you are more comfortable with hardware you may want to tackle some overclocking later, that is why people were recommending the Z77 motherboards and a K version processor. The K CPUs feature unlocked multipliers so you can select the frequency they run at. This is all more general PC stuff and not necessarily video related but it goes hand in hand for gaming performance.

Overclocking your GPU is much easier and more painless, especially thanks to MSI Afterburner where you can monitor voltage, temperature, clock frequency and adjust the clock speeds and fan profiles.

 

[skipsneeky2]

The one thing i hate about gpu reviews sometimes is how often they can leave out minimums,heck some reviews are guilty of enabling 4x msaa in some titles like BF3 at 1080p and the review could be for a gtx650 and such a card tanks,trust me and your left without the fxaa enabled numbers but luckily as far as i know anandtech is the only one who bothers giving you both the fxaa and 4x msaa enabled 1080p results.

 

[tweakboy]

Nice benchies...

 

[cmdrdredd]

The one thing i hate about gpu reviews sometimes is how often they can leave out minimums,heck some reviews are guilty of enabling 4x msaa in some titles like BF3 at 1080p and the review could be for a gtx650 and such a card tanks,trust me and your left without the fxaa enabled numbers but luckily as far as i know anandtech is the only one who bothers giving you both the fxaa and 4x msaa enabled 1080p results.

Also with most GPU reviews they are using high end overclocked CPUs. They do this to eliminate any CPU bottleneck. They want to show how the GPUs perform side by side without the CPU holding anything back. It doesn't translate to what one can expect with no overclock.

 

[ocre]

People are acting like there is some problem with him not overclocking.....
Geez! games are designed for stock CPUs. I dont get the stance people are taking????

Its not like overclocking really does much for fps in today's games anyway. Not unless your already struggling. A i7 3770 that turbos 3.9 is plenty fast enough for any game out there. ANY! I could see overclocking a core 2 or the 2.6ghz i7 920 to bump up your relevancy, but these are old processors from many years back. No one designs games that a stock i7 3770 would struggle on, if they did it would not sell. Most computers out there playing games have nothing this powerful. Most are much weaker/mobile CPUs.

Perhaps the elitist are completely out of touch with reality? You do not have to overclock a 3770 to play games. Currently there are no games so demanding that would cause such a CPU to struggle. It is crazy talk. Without overclocking this CPU would be great for the foreseeable future.
The terribly weak APUs coming in the next gen consoles will do nothing to change this. His CPU is not only okay for gaming, its actually fantastic.

 

[toyota]

games are designed for stock cpus? lol what does that even mean? of course his cpu is fine but to get the best use out of high end gpu in ALL his games then yes overclocking will help.

 

[Mtt]

Just for your reference, my build FX-8350 + radeon 7970(single) + 5 hard drives, with FX-8350 very mild OC(4.2Ghz) and stock speed for the 7970 pulled over 700W measured at the outlet running OCCT 3.10(dont run the newer version of OCCT, 3.10 is the best at stretching PSU)
My PSU is corsair HX750

 

[mfenn]

Just for your reference, my build FX-8350 + radeon 7970(single) + 5 hard drives, with FX-8350 very mild OC(4.2Ghz) and stock speed for the 7970 pulled over 700W measured at the outlet running OCCT 3.10(dont run the newer version of OCCT, 3.10 is the best at stretching PSU)
My PSU is corsair HX750

You'd have to have tripled the output of your CPU to get anywhere close to 700W total output. I don't see how that's possible unless you are really shoving voltage at it and have some completely ridiculous cooling to keep up.

 

[Godlik3]

My CPU comes with Turbo that makes it about 3.9GHz, how do I use that anyways? I have never really understood what it meant..

 

[Torn Mind]

You'd have to have tripled the output of your CPU to get anywhere close to 700W total output. I don't see how that's possible unless you are really shoving voltage at it and have some completely ridiculous cooling to keep up.

Well, it is an "at the wall" figure, so the components would be consuming about 630 watts. If the FX-8350 pulls about 230 watts, the GPU pulls 250, and the 5 hard drives pull 10 each, we'd get around 530 watts on the PSU's output side, and 588 at the well.

 

[lehtv]

But that was just OCCT so hard disks weren't doing anything.

 

[Hubb1e]

It sounds like you already own the parts. Don't do anything and enjoy your PC. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just not overclockable and that turns people here all weird. Next time come here before you buy not after and you'll do a bit better. The computer would be considered high end by any OEM and will do great with modern titles.