New Roku 3 is damn good...

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007ELmO

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But what about Live SPORTS? This is the only reason I do not release cable TV. Any ideas?
 

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The new transcoder is quite efficient. As long as the devices can use it, and old Core i3 or Phenom II would surprise you

I believe it. I use an E8400 stock, 4GB, no hardware related problems. Plex has pushed many updates down since I started using it in September, it's gotten better. And, of course, there were a few Roku updates since then.
 

Face2Face

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But what about Live SPORTS? This is the only reason I do not release cable TV. Any ideas?

For MLB you can buy the yearly package. Not sure about NBA or NFL. This is where the Roku pales against cable or Dish...

I believe it. I use an E8400 stock, 4GB, no hardware related problems. Plex has pushed many updates down since I started using it in September, it's gotten better. And, of course, there were a few Roku updates since then.


If you want to use the new transcoder, go to settings within the Roku Plex app and select Experimental for the transcoder option. Watch your CPU usage - I tested this out, watching a 13mbps copy of the Avengers and was amazed at the CPU usage difference from the Stable transcoder vs. the experimental.
 
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For MLB you can buy the yearly package. Not sure about NBA or NFL. This is where the Roku pales against cable or Dish...

That probably wouldn't work. I got rid of my cable (except basic channels) and miss out on MLB too. I would love to pay for MLB package but since I'm in the region the Sox play in I would be blacked out until some time after the game is over. No way am I going to watch games the next day, it's not the same thing.
 

007ELmO

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MLB Package JUST for cable you mean, or MLB package somehow works with Roku?

I only watch NBA and NFL.
 

gorcorps

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It'd be nice to have a Sunday Ticket channel on the Roku. The PS3 has a pretty decent app for Sunday Ticket users so I imagine the Roku could do something similar. Even though ST is crazy expensive for the package that allows mobile access (~$300 per season) it'd be nice if you're a huge football fan and you only would need extended cable and such for more football.
 

007ELmO

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i pay for sunday ticket on direcTV, i'm trying to get rid of everything and just watch live NFL sports. I like NBA a lot too, though..
 

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For MLB you can buy the yearly package. Not sure about NBA or NFL. This is where the Roku pales against cable or Dish...




If you want to use the new transcoder, go to settings within the Roku Plex app and select Experimental for the transcoder option. Watch your CPU usage - I tested this out, watching a 13mbps copy of the Avengers and was amazed at the CPU usage difference from the Stable transcoder vs. the experimental.

Does the experimental transcoder fix the awful issue with subtitles having green blocky artifacts around them?

Also does the Roku w/ Plex allow you to select from multiple audio tracks? I watch a lot of subbed stuff and i've tried PS3 media center, Plex, and Serviio, and none of them seem to handle transcoding properly.

Is there a list of formats the Roku 3 supports natively? If it handles MKV with embedded ASS subs i'd buy one in a heartbeat and recommission my media server for other things!
 

Face2Face

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Does the experimental transcoder fix the awful issue with subtitles having green blocky artifacts around them?

Also does the Roku w/ Plex allow you to select from multiple audio tracks? I watch a lot of subbed stuff and i've tried PS3 media center, Plex, and Serviio, and none of them seem to handle transcoding properly.

Is there a list of formats the Roku 3 supports natively? If it handles MKV with embedded ASS subs i'd buy one in a heartbeat and recommission my media server for other things!

I am not sure about the subtitle issue? When Plex was first released for the Roku it was plagued with an artifact bug when a video file was transcoding. It seemed to happen mostly on lower quality content - 480P and lower. I don't use subtitles at all so I really can't tell you yes or no about the blocky issue. I recently watched the PirateBay movie and the hard subtitles worked fine with no issues. If you have multiple audio formats for one movie or TV Show, you can select which one you want to use in playback options before you play it.

To my knowledge the Roku will play MKV and MP4's that are H.264 encoded natively. For audio support I think it's AC3 and mp3 only. With the newest version of the Server installed and the recent Plex Roku app update I have zero issues. I have been using it since it first came out and now it's really stable compared to what it was.
 

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I do have a complaint now. Not that I used them alot, but recently went to use Videobuzz and 1080p (both Youtube channels) and found they had been removed. I googled it and sure enough Roku had forced them to remove the channels with no real reason given.

Ok, so it's just youtube, but my concern if other channels, including Plex. Granted, they probably realize Plex is what is selling their product.
 

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I am not sure about the subtitle issue? When Plex was first released for the Roku it was plagued with an artifact bug when a video file was transcoding. It seemed to happen mostly on lower quality content - 480P and lower. I don't use subtitles at all so I really can't tell you yes or no about the blocky issue. I recently watched the PirateBay movie and the hard subtitles worked fine with no issues. If you have multiple audio formats for one movie or TV Show, you can select which one you want to use in playback options before you play it.

To my knowledge the Roku will play MKV and MP4's that are H.264 encoded natively. For audio support I think it's AC3 and mp3 only. With the newest version of the Server installed and the recent Plex Roku app update I have zero issues. I have been using it since it first came out and now it's really stable compared to what it was.

Does the new Roku 3 play .mkv natively? Previous versions did not and playback depended on the .mkv files being remuxed or re encoded to .mp4.
 

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I do have a complaint now. Not that I used them alot, but recently went to use Videobuzz and 1080p (both Youtube channels) and found they had been removed. I googled it and sure enough Roku had forced them to remove the channels with no real reason given.

Ok, so it's just youtube, but my concern if other channels, including Plex. Granted, they probably realize Plex is what is selling their product.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_...uzz-channel-for-streaming-youtube-on-the-sly/

I find YouTube through Plex works very well. I would also check out Twonky Beam (Google play and App Store). It's kind of like Airplay for the Roku. You can beam video you have taken with you phone and you can beam YouTube direct to your TV. Works pretty well.

Just ordered a Roku 3, we'll see how it goes I guess.

I am pretty sure you will like it. The new interface is pretty sweet as well. Runs good on Roku 2 XS, not so much on the slower Roku HD.

Does the new Roku 3 play .mkv natively? Previous versions did not and playback depended on the .mkv files being remuxed or re encoded to .mp4.

Yes it does and so did the older Roku 2. They are just very picky with MKV's. They have to be .H264 encoded and the audio needs to be AC3 or MP3 format.
 
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I am pretty sure you will like it. The new interface is pretty sweet as well. Runs good on Roku 2 XS, not so much on the slower Roku HD.

I hope so, most of my collection is streamed from my media server, all MKVs with embedded ASS subtitles, lots of dual audio stuff as well that I really want to be able to switch to jap+subs or english+no subs whenever I please without jumping through hoops. It was a toss up between this and the WDTV Live, but I went for the Roku for the added amazon instant and more streaming as a cable box replacement for the bedroom.

Worst case I sell it to a college-bound friend and buy the WDTV instead
 

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http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_...uzz-channel-for-streaming-youtube-on-the-sly/

I find YouTube through Plex works very well. I would also check out Twonky Beam (Google play and App Store). It's kind of like Airplay for the Roku. You can beam video you have taken with you phone and you can beam YouTube direct to your TV. Works pretty well.



I am pretty sure you will like it. The new interface is pretty sweet as well. Runs good on Roku 2 XS, not so much on the slower Roku HD.



Yes it does and so did the older Roku 2. They are just very picky with MKV's. They have to be .H264 encoded and the audio needs to be AC3 or MP3 format.

I don't really like the Plex Youtube channel because search doesn't work in Plex on Roku. Really wish they would get that fixed. Really my overall comment was in reference to Roku being able to block/get rid of channels at will because let's face it, Plex does SO much more illegal things than those youtube channels. Although it has still been a large question why they don't have a youtube channel and why they would force the shutdown of secondary ones (the answer they gave was really a BS answer)
 
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pandemonium

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Just in case anyone else is having problems setting up their 3, it has problems with connecting to a network with WPA1 from a Netgear router. Use WPA2. It will time-out when trying to establish the local network connection.
 

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Just to play devil's advocate here, what advantage does the Roku have over an Ouya running XBMC when it releases next month (besides maybe the remote)?
 

pandemonium

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There are some exclusive "channels" to the Roku. None of which I think are worth noting. Other than that, I'd not bother with getting it.
 

ImpulsE69

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Most of that comes down to who else is using it besides you. (read: people who can't figure out how to work/fix XBMC etc).
 

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I would get the Roku, but it lacks apps like YouTube abd Twitch, something I watch regularly.
 

007ELmO

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Just so you know, you CAN buy the NFL Sunday Ticket for just your PS3. You do not need to have DirecTV.

So we can get MLB (PC), NBA League Pass (PC), and NFL Sunday Ticket on your PS3 and PC.

Locals will probably be blacked out, and if it's shown on a local network (which I think you can get free with over the air?).
 
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