New Russian Stealth Jet Fighter

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Gibsons

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This is at least the third Russian '5th gen stealth fighter superior the the F-22 in all ways' that I've read about over the last decade.
 

mnewsham

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This is at least the third Russian '5th gen stealth fighter superior the the F-22 in all ways' that I've read about over the last decade.

Actually the other two you heard of were likely the Russian 4.5 generation fighters, the PAK T-50 is the only Russian fighter to be built as a 5th generation fighter. They are also reportedly already planning the 6th generation fighter (but claim it will not disrupt current development on the PAK T-50)
 

rommelrommel

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5th generation is just a recent term made up by lockheedmart to support the F35 being so damn expensive. Anyone can call a prototype 5th gen, doesn't mean much.
 

norseamd

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Actually the other two you heard of were likely the Russian 4.5 generation fighters, the PAK T-50 is the only Russian fighter to be built as a 5th generation fighter.

This. The Mig 1.44 and the Su-47 are probably what he is thinking of when it comes to previous Russian advanced jet fighters.
 

norseamd

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5th generation is just a recent term made up by lockheedmart to support the F35 being so damn expensive. Anyone can call a prototype 5th gen, doesn't mean much.

Not exactly. The F-22 is considered the first 5th generation jet fighter not the F-35 shitfighter. Generations of fighter aircraft is basically military concepts instead of marketing bullshit.
 

norseamd

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Hopefully it'll be in the next Ace Combat game!

Those games went even more console shit?

What I want is some of the old Janes military simulators to come back like Janes USAF or other realistic simulators especially if they have lots of locations and lots of different types of aircraft.
 

Gibsons

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This. The Mig 1.44 and the Su-47 are probably what he is thinking of when it comes to previous Russian advanced jet fighters.

Yes, those. I'm not saying they were gen5, just that I think I remember reading that several times. Both were certainly advertised as Raptor killers.
 

rommelrommel

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Not exactly. The F-22 is considered the first 5th generation jet fighter not the F-35 shitfighter. Generations of fighter aircraft is basically military concepts instead of marketing bullshit.

5th generation is totally a lockheedmart term, to the point that they even tried to copyright it in 2007, well after the operational debut of the F22 but when the F35 program was beginning to become a fiasco. The other major builders do not buy into the marketing.
 
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