new school lunch rules

nanette1985

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Oct 12, 2005
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Have any of you run into this? My daughter's school district is following the government's new school lunch rules. Fruit and veggies, milk to drink - which must all be finished before they can leave the lunchroom. Also, daughter is a teacher and teachers are supposed to eat the same stuff to give a good example to the kids.

Parents are annoyed because it costs a fortune - which would be much better spent on other things like more teachers. Also, the kids throw the food away. Much of it is going to waste. And it isn't very much food. Kids & teachers spend most of the school day hungry.

Also, there was no input allowed from any of the parents - including parents whos kids have allergies & food sensitivities. All 3 of my grandkids are lactose intolerant, for example. Kids aren't allowed to bring any of their own food Supposedly it just gets thrown away.

Granted, I'm getting this from 3 small children - no idea what is actually going on here.

Curious - does anyone else deal with this?
 

T_Yamamoto

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Jul 6, 2011
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Our school lunch used to be 1.75. Now its 2.25 what the fuck.

And they serve pizza from little Caesars everyday. Lol.

North Carolina. Fatties united
 
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Also, the kids throw the food away. Much of it is going to waste. And it isn't very much food. Kids & teachers spend most of the school day hungry.
So they throw away the food, which already comes in small portions, and they're confused as to why they're hungry later in the day?
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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Parents irritate the fuck out of me. They pay less in taxes and whine more. They cry about the school food situation and then whine when schools try to do better.
 

SlitheryDee

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Are you saying that fruits and veggies is ALL the students get? That sounds illegal to me. Nothing against a vegan diet, but schools generally include meat because they legally have to serve a balanced meal.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I spent a year feeding school children K-5 trying to do a Jamie Oliver in the school system. Yeah, that went about the same way it did for Jamie. The menus are written by a registered dietician who must follow the federal guidelines to the letter. Which begs the question, why is a dietician needed to do that? That's also a federal guideline. Why are federal guidelines the end all and be all for school lunches? That's how schools get federal funding which is the only way they can feed the kids given the untrained, untalented, centrally controlled workforce they have.

The guidelines balance nutrition on a weekly basis. What that means is you only get a balanced meal if you eat the school lunch every day of the week. Also, K-5 grade kids are third class citizens. They have fewer choices and less fresh produce than middle school kids (2nd class) and High School kids (1st class). This is because schools receive more money for middle school and High school kids than elementary school kids.

I've always believed young children need a better diet than older kids to get a good start on life but, no one asked me. The general breakdown is half an hour for lunch. Getting kids through the line and at their table takes roughly 10 minutes. They are guaranteed a whole 17 minutes of butt time and then they can go. Having their teacher eat with their class is a good idea because it greatly reduces the amount of mischief kids are wont to get into. Kids having to spend a whole 17 minutes in one place without running around and poking billy/sally isn't an onerous burden. The same kids who cant finish 3 oz of green beans and an 8 oz carton of milk have no problem finishing a 10 oz bag of fire cheetos and a 32 oz slurpee in the same amount of time.

Parents need to go to school and eat with their kids once in a while. Just so they can see what the kids eat (crap) and to get an idea of how that many kids are fed in the allotted time.

As an aside, I also spent a little over a year feeding inmates in federal prison. You know what? We feed prisoners better than our K-5 students. I kid you not.
 

DCal430

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Feb 12, 2011
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Have any of you run into this? My daughter's school district is following the government's new school lunch rules. Fruit and veggies, milk to drink - which must all be finished before they can leave the lunchroom. Also, daughter is a teacher and teachers are supposed to eat the same stuff to give a good example to the kids.

Parents are annoyed because it costs a fortune - which would be much better spent on other things like more teachers. Also, the kids throw the food away. Much of it is going to waste. And it isn't very much food. Kids & teachers spend most of the school day hungry.

Also, there was no input allowed from any of the parents - including parents whos kids have allergies & food sensitivities. All 3 of my grandkids are lactose intolerant, for example. Kids aren't allowed to bring any of their own food Supposedly it just gets thrown away.

Granted, I'm getting this from 3 small children - no idea what is actually going on here.

Curious - does anyone else deal with this?

This cost the school nothing more, so it can't cost a fortune
 

DCal430

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Feb 12, 2011
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Have any of you run into this? My daughter's school district is following the government's new school lunch rules. Fruit and veggies, milk to drink - which must all be finished before they can leave the lunchroom. Also, daughter is a teacher and teachers are supposed to eat the same stuff to give a good example to the kids.

Parents are annoyed because it costs a fortune - which would be much better spent on other things like more teachers. Also, the kids throw the food away. Much of it is going to waste. And it isn't very much food. Kids & teachers spend most of the school day hungry.

Also, there was no input allowed from any of the parents - including parents whos kids have allergies & food sensitivities. All 3 of my grandkids are lactose intolerant, for example. Kids aren't allowed to bring any of their own food Supposedly it just gets thrown away.

Granted, I'm getting this from 3 small children - no idea what is actually going on here.

Curious - does anyone else deal with this?

You do know that most school lunch food is always thrown away.
Child doesn't show up, the meal they would have eaten is thrown away.
 

keird

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Jan 18, 2002
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Aren't lunch boxes still allowed? I consistently see them for sale in stores at the beginning of the school year. I’m sending my kid to school with beef jerky or roast beef – something cool. I might be able to convince my kid to eat an avocado soon. Small knives are still allowed, right?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Aren't lunch boxes still allowed? I consistently see them for sale in stores at the beginning of the school year. I’m sending my kid to school with beef jerky or roast beef – something cool. I might be able to convince my kid to eat an avocado soon. Small knives are still allowed, right?

What part of zero tolerance didn't you understand? Your kid will be brainwashed, expelled and, make the 5 o'clock news. You'll be ostracized as a trainer of future terrorists.
 

keird

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Jan 18, 2002
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How can you have an allergy to steel? It's really just a tiny little knife. I read enough to know that peanut butter is forbidden.
 

SlitheryDee

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Aren't lunch boxes still allowed? I consistently see them for sale in stores at the beginning of the school year. I’m sending my kid to school with beef jerky or roast beef – something cool. I might be able to convince my kid to eat an avocado soon. Small knives are still allowed, right?

Well, I would nix the knife, but this is really a fantastic idea. Parents, it is a possibility that you might be ultimately responsible for making sure your child doesn't starve to death. Given that, it might also be your responsibility to supplement their nutritional intake if you find the standardized, federally provided "ration" less than sufficient.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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How can you have an allergy to steel? It's really just a tiny little knife. I read enough to know that peanut butter is forbidden.

We're not talking about allergies, we're talking about WMD's! Don't you know even pictures of knives and guns undermine the entire fabric of Western civilization?
 

Smoblikat

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Nov 19, 2011
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Parents irritate the fuck out of me. They pay less in taxes and whine more. They cry about the school food situation and then whine when schools try to do better.

The parents and kids at my old high school caused one HELL of a ruccas when we found out all of our food was pink slime. Sometimes intervention is good. Though, all school food is Grade D but edible, its prison food, hospital food.
 

keird

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Jan 18, 2002
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We're not talking about allergies, we're talking about WMD's! Don't you know even pictures of knives and guns undermine the entire fabric of Western civilization?

Well, a length of the thinnest wire, then. It might look like a garotte, though.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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I used to send my daughter to school with canned food, and a P38 opener.
 

mmntech

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Seems like it would be easier and cheaper to just cut out school lunches entirely. Make the kids brown bag it. When I was a kid, lunch wasn't served in schools until high school. I didn't come from a particularly wealthy town but I don't remember anyone starving. Also nobody ate the meals offered at the high school cafeteria. Just the french fries.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Seems like it would be easier and cheaper to just cut out school lunches entirely. Make the kids brown bag it. When I was a kid, lunch wasn't served in schools until high school. I didn't come from a particularly wealthy town but I don't remember anyone starving. Also nobody ate the meals offered at the high school cafeteria. Just the french fries.

The way school lunches are handled now, they're really for the low income students who can't afford to make their own lunch. I agree that a better lunch could be made at home but, most parents of small children don't have any better idea of what a good lunch is than their kids do. We're at least two generations away from any real knowledge of food. Also, federally funded school lunches are what pays for many after school programs so, eliminating the school lunches means eliminating those programs. That means a lot of kids home alone.
 

Dirigible

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Our local public elementary schools don't provide lunch. Brown bag it or starve.
 
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