New, secret spin of NV40?

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: Slaimus
NVIDIA only presents the design of the chip.

I'm not a chip designer, but as I understand it, they give the fab a "design blueprint" for the chip, called a netlist or something, yes.

Originally posted by: Slaimus
It is up to each fab to decide how the actual chip wil tap out. Small differences in transister spacing can lead to the extra length. They could have even cut the wafer differently.

Then the netlist or whatever, is processed by the fab, and adapted to whatever process tech that they are using - I think - to eventually get the new set of masks used to create the chips.

But the point is, those mask-creation steps and whatnot are expensive, so generally, if one is going to rev the "design blueprint" of a chip, unless it's a serious defect (in which case earlier batches of the chip may have to be scrapped altogether), one waits until there is some other change at the fab that would necessitate another mask creation. (I think.)

Originally posted by: Slaimus
There are also many suppliers of silicon wafers, so the difference could be just that. If they fixed the VPU, it would have a new revision. Seeing how it is still A1, I doubt that happened.

Well, that was the question - was that id from the older or the newer GPU? The intriguing point is, that -if- NV was going to fix the NV40's PVP with a revision, then a fab change would be the *perfect* time to do so.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: sigpop
um, not to stir the pot on this ever so stimulating thread, but shouldnt the first problem with this whole soap opera be a normally $400 card purchased for $240 on ebay didnt work as expected?

As the Wheel 'O Karma turns...

 

[Plumcuda1]

I still dont understand how a 6800GT is running at 350/500. That isnt normal anyways.

 

[rise]

yeah it is

 

[Plumcuda1]

How is that normal? My stock stettings are 350/1000 for my 6800gt


This from XFX's website.

Performance


Memory Interface: 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth (GB/sec.): 32.0
Fill Rate (billion texels/sec.): 5.6
Vertices/sec. (million): 525
Memory Data Rate: 1000
Pixels per clock (peak): 16
Textures per pixel (max in a single rendering pass): 16
RAMDACs (MHz): 400

 

[Insomniak]

Originally posted by: Plumcuda1
How is that normal? My stock stettings are 350/1000 for my 6800gt

The RAM is DDR. It's clocked at 500Mhz, effectively 1Ghz.

BFG cards come overclocked 370/1000 from factory. It's one of their selling points.

 

[SpeedTester]

Rollo hasnt had any abusive language and I hate to see him get banned for two weeks over something stupid like this I hope some nice Mod lets him off his break early

Tony, What we cant understand is why you wont leave the video card stock and try it out. Force it to be clocked what its suppose to be if its not normal and leave the heatsink the way it is. Everytime I try and side with you you say something and make me re-think my thoughts. Ohh and BTW, I'll be the first to admit I am not A+ Certified but could run circles around the noobs who get the cert and dont know anything. I have the adaptive test at my business and can pass it with flying colors. I hate when people think that a certification means they know all. I have been building/upgrading computer since my Wyse terminal, 8086 and commodore 64 but still have no ambition of getting a+ certified. I also own a computer repair/sales/game store and could careless when someone applies for a job if they are A+ certified or not. Almost every computer guru I am freinds with do not have the certification nor plan on getting it. I dont want to be harsh but I just hate when people rub some easy arse class to pass in others faces.

I wish you would just leave the card bone stock test it out then express your opinion with us. I know how you feel though, I recieved a EVGA 6800Gt today with a cap that was bent over and the solder joint was unsoldered. I couldnt wait for the 1-2 week turnaround time on a replacement (for a customers PC) so soldered the dang lead back on myself. All works well now. EVGA kinda pissed me off because even though it was a OEM card it still should have been packaged better, but my overall impression is still good (Still like the BFG's better)


I'm not sure if anyone noticed but while testing out different drivers I noticed that the beta drivers gave me a temp readout of 58C core. I installed the official drivers now my core temps are 42c. Nothing else has changed. Anyone else experience this?


I hope your new card last alot longer then the other 3 and hopefully this was all a fluke batch.

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

No, the problem we have with Rollo is the abusive language he uses. Apparently the Mods have had their fill of it as well:

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[CheesePoofs]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

Originally posted by: LTC8K6

370\500 - the second 6800GT that was dead when I got it

If it was dead when you got it, how do you know what it was clocked at? Hmmmmm.......

Nice one!

That's about the only point in the OP's original story that he hasn't offered an explaination for, at least not that I've seen. Maybe Rollo was right? Still, that issue wasn't really the point of the thread. I just want some GPU pics and chip-id register dumps, thanks.

Is it possible that just the 3d was dead? Or that 2d worked but was corrupted?

Im not sure if this could happen, but i thought i'd put it out.

 

[BobDaMenkey]

Tony and I are both seniors in HS at the moment we both have jobs that leave little time for our favorite past time of gaming. Both of us like to play games, and both of us manage to make a fairly significant amount for being 'unedjucated youngins'. We have weekends off and we also have these oddities known as summer vacations, that we can use for gainful employment, and for extra learning.

But hey, if you guys don't want to believe us that's great. You can accuse us of what ever the heck you want, PROVE IT, don't just point the finger of doubt. We've done nothing wrong yet everyone and their uncle has come in to try and discredit and bash us.

Tony did nothing to the first 2 cards. After a LAN party he noticed the temps on his 6800GT were fairly high and thusly went to replace the stock cooling solution on his 3rd card. Tony can be a bit of a flake at times, but he isn't going to mess up his hardware. He managed to put together 2 whole computers on his own, I think the boy might be compitent enough to installl a heatsink on a video card.

As far as our employment if you do wish to know, Tony's a webmaster for a company that he got for an internship as part of our AOIT (Academy of Information Technology) that our school (Ironwood High School, of the Peoria Unified School District #11) so he can get money and good stuff on his record at the same time. I take a much simplier method, I worked at Harkins Movie Theaters for a good long time, got fed up with it and got a job in the mall for Game Daze(look em up, they all have websites that can be found via google). I'm not A+ Certified, but I regularly pull apart computers and reconfigure them for the simple idea of doing it. I spend more time on my car than I do on my computer though. It's a 1982 BMW 320i that I am currently swaping engines for, putting a 1991 318i engine in to replace the bad 82(PO killed it).

Oh, and I'll post a picture sometime later, I don't feel like recharging my digital camera's batteries to throw them up on a hosting site. They will be coming, sometime here. I've got to be at work at 5pm, and then open the store on Sunday, and work til roughly midnight (I could be done at 5:30, but I want to be a nice guy and help another location out with doing their inventory, and I want the money) so yeah. If they don't get posted sometime today (the 29th), they'll be up probably on monday the 31st. Tony could probably dig up his A+ Cert paper if you guys really want him to, but obviously he doesn't have it on him because he's at a LAN party..

In any case I'm going to figure out if I want to pass out in my bedroom with the one girl who attends the parties, or continue gaming.

 

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: mwmorph
Alright, gefrocetony, i didn' t want to slam you and whatever yuor ethics are nut i have to expose a lie.
remember, i dont know or care weather you "stole" or legimiately RMAed 4 gf6900gts from XFX, but you profile clearly states you are a a k-12 student in Arizona!
ANICHOLA1462@student.peoriaud.k12.az.us
NOTICE...................^....................^
...............................|STUDENT.......| K-12 grades!

NO way you are A+ certified and dont bother to reply saying you have a side job or something and you ARE A+ certified. show me a pic of your certification certificate/ test results and i'll believe you!


A+ cert takes so much time, no middle/high schooler is ever likely to be a+ certified. no way you had time for homework, a+ classes or study, school, other stuff.
you go to Peoria Unified School District #11(http://www.peoriaud.k12.az.us/)

i dont give a damn how hard you screw a company like xfx over, but NEVER lie on these forums.

A+ takes less than a week of studying a guide to pass. Not to mention is a POS and any reputable corporation doesnt get techs based on that certification. Hell i dont think heatsinks are even mentioned on the exam or study guides.

 

[Drayvn]

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
Tony and I are both seniors in HS at the moment we both have jobs that leave little time for our favorite past time of gaming. Both of us like to play games, and both of us manage to make a fairly significant amount for being 'unedjucated youngins'. We have weekends off and we also have these oddities known as summer vacations, that we can use for gainful employment, and for extra learning.

But hey, if you guys don't want to believe us that's great. You can accuse us of what ever the heck you want, PROVE IT, don't just point the finger of doubt. We've done nothing wrong yet everyone and their uncle has come in to try and discredit and bash us.

Tony did nothing to the first 2 cards. After a LAN party he noticed the temps on his 6800GT were fairly high and thusly went to replace the stock cooling solution on his 3rd card. Tony can be a bit of a flake at times, but he isn't going to mess up his hardware. He managed to put together 2 whole computers on his own, I think the boy might be compitent enough to installl a heatsink on a video card.

As far as our employment if you do wish to know, Tony's a webmaster for a company that he got for an internship as part of our AOIT (Academy of Information Technology) that our school (Ironwood High School, of the Peoria Unified School District #11) so he can get money and good stuff on his record at the same time. I take a much simplier method, I worked at Harkins Movie Theaters for a good long time, got fed up with it and got a job in the mall for Game Daze(look em up, they all have websites that can be found via google). I'm not A+ Certified, but I regularly pull apart computers and reconfigure them for the simple idea of doing it. I spend more time on my car than I do on my computer though. It's a 1982 BMW 320i that I am currently swaping engines for, putting a 1991 318i engine in to replace the bad 82(PO killed it).

Oh, and I'll post a picture sometime later, I don't feel like recharging my digital camera's batteries to throw them up on a hosting site. They will be coming, sometime here. I've got to be at work at 5pm, and then open the store on Sunday, and work til roughly midnight (I could be done at 5:30, but I want to be a nice guy and help another location out with doing their inventory, and I want the money) so yeah. If they don't get posted sometime today (the 29th), they'll be up probably on monday the 31st. Tony could probably dig up his A+ Cert paper if you guys really want him to, but obviously he doesn't have it on him because he's at a LAN party..

In any case I'm going to figure out if I want to pass out in my bedroom with the one girl who attends the parties, or continue gaming.

Ok now come on guys, unless this guy is absolutley dumb as hell, hes GIVING you information about themselves, so i dont know what you guys thing but im leaning more to them telling the truth, i suppose hes giving this info out so some of you can CHECK. And maybe get some proof.

 

[Fenuxx]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Hell i dont think heatsinks are even mentioned on the exam or study guides.

Actually, heatsinks and their proper installation was mentioned, and was on the test that I took. There was also a chapter in the study guide (mine, at least) that covered installing different components, and proper installation of a CPU was part of it.

Now, I know most people (including myself) thinks A+ certification doesn't mean very much, but to some companies, you have to have it to even get considered for a job. The only reason I mention it is because it at least shows that I know something about computers, and I do know that there are people that think they know alot because the have read a book (whooptie f*ckin doo, right?), but I'm not one of them. You can say what you want, but the fact of the matter is, I know what the hell I'm talking about, and am not stupid enough to improperly install a heatsink, as it really doesn't take much brains at all.

This thread had good intentions originally, but has devolved into a witch trial for me (geforcetony), all because everybody is doing WAAAY too much reading in between the lines. If you don't have anything to say about the original post topic, get the f*ck away from this thread, as you are not welcome. Rollo started it, and like a bunch of stupid pidgeons after food, you followed.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: geforcetony

Originally posted by: Acanthus

This thread had good intentions originally, but has devolved into a witch trial for me (geforcetony), all because everybody is doing WAAAY too much reading in between the lines. If you don't have anything to say about the original post topic, get the f*ck away from this thread, as you are not welcome. Rollo started it, and like a bunch of stupid pidgeons after food, you followed.

actually, the 3rd or 4th poster mentioned it and while i sympathize with you having your original thread intentions re-directed, can you really blame anyone, rollo included, for questioning your actions? i for one, the minute i read your original post, said to myself "WTF ??" even if you did get 4 bad cards in a row (people hit the lottery, right?) you offer only questionable and/or contradictory evidence as to exactly what happened. and sorry to say, but in my short time reading AT (6 months or so) the only posters i see actually have a "friend" register and post on his behalf are trolls/morons.

i think you should just start a new thread and let this one die. your original intent was intriguing but i'm afraid is hopelessy lost now. perhaps have your friend start it, lol.

 

[Finalnight]

A+ doesn't mean jack no offense, one week of studying and you got it, it means only a little bit more than being an MCP.
I was orginally gonna get an A+ cert for sh!ts and giggles when my company was paying for the training/test fees, but since they realized that A+ doesn't mean jack and stopped paying for it, I decided not to drop $400 on a useless piece of paper. I think most employers would rather see a AA/AS with 1+ years of technician experience or a BSCE with 4 yrs of technician experience than a A+ with no experience. I was thinking about getting that Certified Trainer certification, anyone know anything good or bad about it.

 

[housecat]

nothing wrong with A+ guys. for a high school student, thats commendable..
its GOOD hes going out and making his life better. it DOES mean something.


i dont have my a+, because I'm beyond that level.. but i was going to get it back in the day. its a great certification, its one of the few that does not require annual retests and checkups.. once you have it, you have it for good. and thats pretty nice.


i've got my AAS and finishing my BA right now.. which of course overshadows a A+.. but for a HS kid its certainly worth a Congrats, good job and keep up the good work.

it will really help you get a job while you work in HS or college in the field as a tech. Wish I had that when I was in HS.

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: housecat
I may be christian, but i dont have to forgive.. i'm supposed too. but i dont give a damn.

Yea, well enjoy your vacation. Thank you mods!

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

Originally posted by: mwmorph
Alright, gefrocetony, i didn' t want to slam you and whatever yuor ethics are nut i have to expose a lie.
remember, i dont know or care weather you "stole" or legimiately RMAed 4 gf6900gts from XFX, but you profile clearly states you are a a k-12 student in Arizona!
ANICHOLA1462@student.peoriaud.k12.az.us
NOTICE...................^....................^
...............................|STUDENT.......| K-12 grades!

He said that he was a 17-year-old HS student, did he not? K-12... 12th grade, is a senior in HS, at least from where I come from. So that all matches up so far. No lie that I can see.

Originally posted by: mwmorph
NO way you are A+ certified and dont bother to reply saying you have a side job or something and you ARE A+ certified. show me a pic of your certification certificate/ test results and i'll believe you!

If you know something about computers, A+ certification isn't really difficult. (So says someone that never bothered, but has talked to plenty of "paper MSCEs" in his day, and surprised at how little they actually know their tested subject material.)

Originally posted by: mwmorph
A+ cert takes so much time, no middle/high schooler is ever likely to be a+ certified. no way you had time for homework, a+ classes or study, school, other stuff.

LOL. You probably wouldn't want to hear what some of the guys that I went to HS and hung out in the computer labs with did during their HS years.. one of them had an established ISP, another had their own software company. The one with the ISP purchased his own house, in cash, after he got out of HS. (I wish I had that kind of dedicated business sense, I guess.) IMHO, you really need to learn to not put down "young people", just because of their age. Or you may feel the rage of their "geek oppression" when they get older. (PS. I think you should do more reading about Anand's age when he started this site. )

Originally posted by: mwmorph
i dont give a damn how hard you screw a company like xfx over, but NEVER lie on these forums.

I mean, he could be completely BS'ing... plenty of young people do that, and it wouldn't surprise me in the least to hear that... but ... where's the lie? I mean, proof, not just accusations? That's all.

Yeah, i know. im sorry, i may just be bittr at my ripe old age of 26 . perosnally, im just tired of bsing. as far as i can rmemeber, during my high school years, my day was basically school-->sports-->homework-->chores. and on weekends hang out-->job-->chores. i had no time for a+ cert or a business. never realized some people had that much time and were able to do that.

 

[AiponGkooja]

take out sports, homework and job and you have plenty of time to do stuff...

 

[mwmorph]

yeah, but colleges are so competitivem you really need to do that to get into a good college. va tech, where i go had the avg gpa of 3.79 for freshmen this year.(thank got it was only 3.5 when i came.)

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

Rollo is a troll, if you ever post a thread about any problem and you have your damn case fan slightly overvolted thats immediately the fault and you're subject to lambasting and a fire at will attitude from him sitting atop his high horse. I'm glad the mod finally told him to STFU.:beer:

Yes, thats a little bit of a joke, but seriously I wanted to know about the Video Processor when I clicked on this thread, I simply don't give a damn about the RMA ethics of a guy on the internet. But you know, that doesn't matter.

And for the record, I have a 6800ultra stock bios clocks and it's royally fvcked up. My 2nd DVI blanks out randomly and the fan detached itself from the base of the heatsink slightly, so I had to take off the cover to stop it from grinding (don't have time to RMA it yet) My card is a PNY however.

 

[SpeedTester]

Funny how you talk crap now that Rollo is temporally banned. I'm not going to side with anyone 100% but attacking him now that he is banned is simply not cool.

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

Rollo is a troll, if you ever post a thread about any problem and you have your damn case fan slightly overvolted thats immediately the fault and you're subject to lambasting and a fire at will attitude from him sitting atop his high horse. I'm glad the mod finally told him to STFU.:beer:

Yes, thats a little bit of a joke, but seriously I wanted to know about the Video Processor when I clicked on this thread, I simply don't give a damn about the RMA ethics of a guy on the internet. But you know, that doesn't matter.

And for the record, I have a 6800ultra stock bios clocks and it's royally fvcked up. My 2nd DVI blanks out randomly and the fan detached itself from the base of the heatsink slightly, so I had to take off the cover to stop it from grinding (don't have time to RMA it yet) My card is a PNY however.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

Rollo is a troll, if you ever post a thread about any problem and you have your damn case fan slightly overvolted thats immediately the fault and you're subject to lambasting and a fire at will attitude from him sitting atop his high horse. I'm glad the mod finally told him to STFU.:beer:

Yes, thats a little bit of a joke, but seriously I wanted to know about the Video Processor when I clicked on this thread, I simply don't give a damn about the RMA ethics of a guy on the internet. But you know, that doesn't matter.

And for the record, I have a 6800ultra stock bios clocks and it's royally fvcked up. My 2nd DVI blanks out randomly and the fan detached itself from the base of the heatsink slightly, so I had to take off the cover to stop it from grinding (don't have time to RMA it yet) My card is a PNY however.

Good maybe next time the mod will tell you to "STFU".

Think about this for just a second. Virtually every video thread started, someone always flames you in it. Thats probably about how Rollo fealt. Every thread about the 5800U, every thread about anything people would bring him up and make a snide comment, much similiar to what you are doing.

Maybe you dont give a sh!t about ethics but maybe he does. Is it ANY of your business to flame him about his beliefs... hell is it your business to judge him based on his beliefs... NO!

Also i believe you are blowing things way out of proportion. Fan overvolted slightly... how in the hell is ANYONE going to know if that is happening to your GPU fan... No. If it is it will not be over volting enough for him to get involved. His "fire at will attitude" is probably cause by the years of crap like Faulty RMA's, and what not in this forum. After you have been here a while as some of us, you can pretty much pick this out.

The fact that GeforceTony... installed an NVSilencer, His cards are clocked at different clockspeeds, a random new person signed on and claims he is his friends, and the speed of his RMA... all contribute to the elder forum members skepticism.

Maybe before you you flame you will think about who you are insulting, and why.

-Kevin

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: rise4310

Originally posted by: geforcetony

Originally posted by: Acanthus

This thread had good intentions originally, but has devolved into a witch trial for me (geforcetony), all because everybody is doing WAAAY too much reading in between the lines. If you don't have anything to say about the original post topic, get the f*ck away from this thread, as you are not welcome. Rollo started it, and like a bunch of stupid pidgeons after food, you followed.

actually, the 3rd or 4th poster mentioned it and while i sympathize with you having your original thread intentions re-directed, can you really blame anyone, rollo included, for questioning your actions? i for one, the minute i read your original post, said to myself "WTF ??" even if you did get 4 bad cards in a row (people hit the lottery, right?) you offer only questionable and/or contradictory evidence as to exactly what happened. and sorry to say, but in my short time reading AT (6 months or so) the only posters i see actually have a "friend" register and post on his behalf are trolls/morons.

i think you should just start a new thread and let this one die. your original intent was intriguing but i'm afraid is hopelessy lost now. perhaps have your friend start it, lol.

:thumbsup: Well said, I agree with everything you mentioned.

 

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

Rollo is a troll, if you ever post a thread about any problem and you have your damn case fan slightly overvolted thats immediately the fault and you're subject to lambasting and a fire at will attitude from him sitting atop his high horse. I'm glad the mod finally told him to STFU.:beer:

Yes, thats a little bit of a joke, but seriously I wanted to know about the Video Processor when I clicked on this thread, I simply don't give a damn about the RMA ethics of a guy on the internet. But you know, that doesn't matter.

And for the record, I have a 6800ultra stock bios clocks and it's royally fvcked up. My 2nd DVI blanks out randomly and the fan detached itself from the base of the heatsink slightly, so I had to take off the cover to stop it from grinding (don't have time to RMA it yet) My card is a PNY however.

Good maybe next time the mod will tell you to "STFU".

Think about this for just a second. Virtually every video thread started, someone always flames you in it. Thats probably about how Rollo fealt. Every thread about the 5800U, every thread about anything people would bring him up and make a snide comment, much similiar to what you are doing.

Maybe you dont give a sh!t about ethics but maybe he does. Is it ANY of your business to flame him about his beliefs... hell is it your business to judge him based on his beliefs... NO!

Also i believe you are blowing things way out of proportion. Fan overvolted slightly... how in the hell is ANYONE going to know if that is happening to your GPU fan... No. If it is it will not be over volting enough for him to get involved. His "fire at will attitude" is probably cause by the years of crap like Faulty RMA's, and what not in this forum. After you have been here a while as some of us, you can pretty much pick this out.

The fact that GeforceTony... installed an NVSilencer, His cards are clocked at different clockspeeds, a random new person signed on and claims he is his friends, and the speed of his RMA... all contribute to the elder forum members skepticism.

Maybe before you you flame you will think about who you are insulting, and why.

-Kevin

I never defended Tony, and I was making a joke about a case fan not a gpu fan.. you need to not read so deeply into things, it's the internet for Christ sake. When someone posts a problem I'm not going to search his past threads to find out if he's telling the truth or not about a return, I don't care! Rollo is a moral zealot and I'm not even saying that he's wrong in bitching at people, just that it really did get damnded annoying, and many, many people thought so.

Rollo had more of a point in this thread but there are tons of threads where he jumps on people overzealously. If he wanted to change the world so bad then he should get a public service job (I literally mean service as an industry, not fast food here) and help people. Or teach people, to start something 'grassroots' as he suggests. Thats absolutely not a flame whatsoever, it's good that he has morals and such but he doesn't need to bring up his beliefs in every damn post. I don't do drugs, I don't think people that do drugs are generally making the right decision, but I don't go around posting in every thread where someone says they went to a party and claim that they are a piece of dirt and need to die, or better yet send their parents a link to the thread mentioning how wasted they were and how many times they screwed some random chick.

I thought the 5800 was an interesting card, and if I could have gotten one for a decent price as I recall Rollo did, I would have boughten one too. I am not a brand whore.

Lighten up francis!

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

Rollo is a troll, if you ever post a thread about any problem and you have your damn case fan slightly overvolted thats immediately the fault and you're subject to lambasting and a fire at will attitude from him sitting atop his high horse. I'm glad the mod finally told him to STFU.:beer:

Yes, thats a little bit of a joke, but seriously I wanted to know about the Video Processor when I clicked on this thread, I simply don't give a damn about the RMA ethics of a guy on the internet. But you know, that doesn't matter.

And for the record, I have a 6800ultra stock bios clocks and it's royally fvcked up. My 2nd DVI blanks out randomly and the fan detached itself from the base of the heatsink slightly, so I had to take off the cover to stop it from grinding (don't have time to RMA it yet) My card is a PNY however.

Good maybe next time the mod will tell you to "STFU".

Think about this for just a second. Virtually every video thread started, someone always flames you in it. Thats probably about how Rollo fealt. Every thread about the 5800U, every thread about anything people would bring him up and make a snide comment, much similiar to what you are doing.

Maybe you dont give a sh!t about ethics but maybe he does. Is it ANY of your business to flame him about his beliefs... hell is it your business to judge him based on his beliefs... NO!

Also i believe you are blowing things way out of proportion. Fan overvolted slightly... how in the hell is ANYONE going to know if that is happening to your GPU fan... No. If it is it will not be over volting enough for him to get involved. His "fire at will attitude" is probably cause by the years of crap like Faulty RMA's, and what not in this forum. After you have been here a while as some of us, you can pretty much pick this out.

The fact that GeforceTony... installed an NVSilencer, His cards are clocked at different clockspeeds, a random new person signed on and claims he is his friends, and the speed of his RMA... all contribute to the elder forum members skepticism.

Maybe before you you flame you will think about who you are insulting, and why.

-Kevin

yeah man i totally agree. it's not right. even though i dont like rollo, im at least not gonna flame him now that he's gone and cant protect himself...or ever for that fact. have some dignity guys (and you few gals) he did what he thought was right and that takes balls. you gotta resect him for that.