New, secret spin of NV40?

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
Well, I finally found the reason for the weird OC. It turns out that my nForce3 Ultra based K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo is the sole culprit. There is a setting in the "Cell Menu" that says " Aggressive Timing". The manual states that this improves the timing for the memory, to improve system performance. This was automatically enabled when I put everything together, and maybe its Monarch Computer's fault for doing it since they "optimized" my my mobo when I ordered it (they test, install and configure the mobo and CPU when you order a combo with a heatsink from them). Now that I know this, I will definitely leave this setting turned off, and therefore have my 6800GT run at default 350\500. I would really like to know how NVIDIA manages to pull this one off...

I'm still confused about how the Aggressive Timing feature overclocks your graphics card. I also have the MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (I got it with the Monarch combo also) and mine came with the Aggressive Timing on too. However, my MSI 6800GT is running at stock speeds when I installed it (I made no changes in the BIOS at the time). Also, I am having trouble understanding how the "aggressive" system memory timings will change the settings on your GPU.

My manual says:
"Aggressive Timing
This item allows you to enable or disable the memory clock. When [Enabled] is selected, the timing delay of the memory will be shorten to increase the performance. Setting options: [Enabled], [Disabled]."

MSI has a seperate feature, Dynamic Overclocking, that will overclock your CPU according to how much load is on your CPU. This feature is also available on my MSI NX6800GT, but it must be enabled from a program through windows.

 

[rise]

yeah, that should have people lining up to apologize, telling them to suck a monkeys nut because you don't know your system. well played.

btw, i was hoping, as i stated before, that you would just let this thread die and start a new one to address the real issue, the possible new spin. however i think it should be left to someone who knows what the hell they're talking about.

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: rise4310
yeah, that should have people lining up to apologize, telling them to suck a monkeys nut because you don't know your system. well played.

btw, i was hoping, as i stated before, that you would just let this thread die and start a new one to address the real issue, the possible new spin. however i think it should be left to someone who knows what the hell they're talking about.

Sorry to keep this thread going and my continued distrust of Tony, but like I said in my previous post, I don't know how the "Aggressive Timing" can overclock his graphics card. There could be something else that is overclocking his card, but it is not the Aggressive Timing.

 

[BobDaMenkey]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1512076&enterthread=y

As seen here in the video section another person with the same mobo as tony, reporting the same OC thing.

I got my RMA number from Leadtek, I'm sending the card in on monday, whooo. My GeForce 4 however decided to take a crap on me and the fan died. However I sucessfully voided the warrenty and forced an aftermarket cooler to work(after market cooler had a speed wire, card didn't, pliers solved the problem). All is well.

 

[SpeedTester]

You wont get an apologys from any of us especially with that attitude. I cant see how a MB can overclock a video card but who knows.

Moderators, why does Rolo get banned for a less offensive statement then Tony made? These boards have always been kept clean as far as language goes and these kind of statements shouldnt be tolerated. I suggest this site to so many younger kids that come into my store and would hate to see them lose access from schools because of statements like this one.

Originally posted by: geforcetony
Well, I finally found the reason for the weird OC. It turns out that my nForce3 Ultra based K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo is the sole culprit. There is a setting in the "Cell Menu" that says " Aggressive Timing". The manual states that this improves the timing for the memory, to improve system performance. This was automatically enabled when I put everything together, and maybe its Monarch Computer's fault for doing it since they "optimized" my my mobo when I ordered it (they test, install and configure the mobo and CPU when you order a combo with a heatsink from them). Now that I know this, I will definitely leave this setting turned off, and therefore have my 6800GT run at default 350\500. I would really like to know how NVIDIA manages to pull this one off...


Here's to all you A$$HOLES that flamed me (AHEM... Rollo) about overclocking my card and then trying to pull one over on XFX... SUCK ON A MONKEY'S NUT B*TCHES. I deserve an apology from you guys, and although I highly doubt that I will get one, I deserve one nonetheless. Now that I know, and I let it be known, for sure that I was not the culprit trying to "get the perfect 3DMark" I am at ease, and now maybe I will start another thread to try and get to the bottom of the different looking GPU cores that was the original purpose of this thread, and maybe no flaming...

 

[Gamingphreek]

And you are telling us this because??

Also i think GeforceTonys post was the worst display of behavior in the forums i have seen in a long time and i think that corrective action should be taken.

As for you post Bob, what are you simply trying to incite more arguing by telling us this. Because that is what it is coming across as.

Additionally Agressive timing has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your graphics card. It has to do with your System RAM timings (TRAS, Command Rate etc). YOu cannot OC your video card through your M/B's BIOS (OCing the AGP bus is not OCing the video card).

Nice try though :roll:

I agree with SpeedTester 100%

-Kevin

 

[saechaka]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
And you are telling us this because??

Also i think GeforceTonys post was the worst display of behavior in the forums i have seen in a long time and i think that corrective action should be taken.

As for you post Bob, what are you simply trying to incite more arguing by telling us this. Because that is what it is coming across as.

Additionally Agressive timing has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with your graphics card. It has to do with your System RAM timings (TRAS, Command Rate etc). YOu cannot OC your video card through your M/B's BIOS (OCing the AGP bus is not OCing the video card).

Nice try though :roll:

I agree with SpeedTester 100%

-Kevin

totally agree

 

[BobDaMenkey]

I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Tony take a vacation for his comment. He deserves it after acting like that. He's an idiot, that's not my fault.

I'm just trying to be a bit of a buddy to him, but I'm not going to sugar coat everthing for everyone. I'll tell it how it is. Tony is an idiot at times, but isn't doing anything purposly to overclock or otherwise harm his boards. Niether am I for that matter. But hey.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
Well, I finally found the reason for the weird OC. It turns out that my nForce3 Ultra based K8N Neo2 Platinum mobo is the sole culprit. There is a setting in the "Cell Menu" that says " Aggressive Timing". The manual states that this improves the timing for the memory, to improve system performance. This was automatically enabled when I put everything together, and maybe its Monarch Computer's fault for doing it since they "optimized" my my mobo when I ordered it (they test, install and configure the mobo and CPU when you order a combo with a heatsink from them). Now that I know this, I will definitely leave this setting turned off, and therefore have my 6800GT run at default 350\500. I would really like to know how NVIDIA manages to pull this one off...


Here's to all you A$$HOLES that flamed me (AHEM... Rollo) about overclocking my card and then trying to pull one over on XFX... SUCK ON A MONKEY'S NUT B*TCHES. I deserve an apology from you guys, and although I highly doubt that I will get one, I deserve one nonetheless. Now that I know, and I let it be known, for sure that I was not the culprit trying to "get the perfect 3DMark" I am at ease, and now maybe I will start another thread to try and get to the bottom of the different looking GPU cores that was the original purpose of this thread, and maybe no flaming...

Shens, and I call for a vacation.
You don't need to use language like that.

 

[rise]

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
I honestly wouldn't mind seeing Tony take a vacation for his comment. He deserves it after acting like that. He's an idiot, that's not my fault.

I'm just trying to be a bit of a buddy to him, but I'm not going to sugar coat everthing for everyone. I'll tell it how it is. Tony is an idiot at times, but isn't doing anything purposly to overclock or otherwise harm his boards. Niether am I for that matter. But hey.

sorry to say, but i had to laugh when i saw a "nvidia must hate me" post and lo and behold its damenkey!!! it's like watching a train wreck, you two have burnt thru , what, 6 cards in a month or so?

ya both should just go to dell and save yourselves more aggravation.

 

[ronnn]

So is there a revision of the 6800 gt gpu or should everyone in this thread be banned?

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: rise4310
sorry to say, but i had to laugh when i saw a "nvidia must hate me" post and lo and behold its damenkey!!! it's like watching a train wreck, you two have burnt thru , what, 6 cards in a month or so?

Queuing up "Another One Bites The Dust" on the 'ol mp3 player...

This one's dedicated to ... "the n00bs that go through video cards faster than I go through cases of Mt. Dew."

 

[rbV5]

YOu cannot OC your video card through your M/B's BIOS (OCing the AGP bus is not OCing the video card).

According to Toms review of the Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe you certainly can:

There was one thing we found really irritating: if the PEG (PCIe Graphics) link is set to normal mode in the BIOS, the GeForce 6800 GT graphics card runs at a chip speed of 360 MHz instead of 350 MHz, and with 515 MHz memory speed as opposed to 500 MHz. The correct values are only activated when you select "slow". Despite the fact that Asus now mentions this fact, we feel any setting option marked "normal" should also yield the desired results.

Link

I've read it elsewhere also. There has been discussion on how that affects a users warranty in this video forum (I can't recall if it was the ASUS MB)

geforcetony, your little tirade:thumbsdown: deserves Vacation IMO

 

[Gamingphreek]

That would be fine but he is running AGP.

-Kevin