New, secret spin of NV40?

[rbV5]

Also no the VPU is not supposed to handle this right now. Microsoft MUST release a modified DLL to give the instructions to offload all Video Encode/Decode opps to the VPU. Without it there is no Encode/Decode for WMV files

I don't think thats true Kevin. I think it may be true for Windows media Player, but couldn't they write their own application? I mean you can use use Windows media format SDK to write a custom program to accelerate windows media (even streaming media) using DXVA for ANY DX9 class hardware.

I see you bring that point up, but where is your source that says thats nothing more than support for accelerated Windows media in Windows Media Player itself, and do those DLL's enable it with just Nvidias PVP, or is it any DXVA supported DirectX9 class hardware as well?

btw, this thread is LOL stfu

 

[Azndude51]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Forgive my skepticism but you are coming across as a bit unbelievable now.

Edit: Ill bet if you tell them that you were using 3rd party cooling they would not accept the RMA

-Kevin

I agree, I've been reading this thread since it started and gave him the benefit of the doubt seeing that so many people get defective XFX cards, it's possible to get 3 bad ones in a row. But now all the stuff he's saying about his RMAing in so little time is making me skeptical since XFX is known for its poor support.

Originally posted by: Cawchy87
EVGA. Took 2 months for an rma to come in from XFX

That was from a thread called "UPDATE****I GOT THE XFX*** Which Video card should I get"

This following is from "RESOLVED: Could it be ANOTHER faulty 6800GT?" EDIT: It also mentions the underclocked RAM, as opposed to Tony's overclocked stuff.

Originally posted by: RealityTime
XFX is crap once again, obviously one would expect the majority of cards to work, but when there are such a high # of XFX cards that do not work well, well why not just buy one from another vendor. XFX IS CRAP! Give yourself one round with their 'tech' support and you'll see. They are totally useless. When I got my 6800gt with the underclocked ram at 900mhz, there were plenty of other people on this forum who had gotten the same crap. It took me a week to get the tech support to agree to rma it, the morons there just kept giving me the run around, asking me to change my drivers ? WTF? for underlocked RAM? Than the moron asked me to see if I could overclock the card to 1000, to which I replied am I still going to be covered under warranty ? Of course no reply.. XFX is crap.. do not buy from them, with so many choices.. go elsewhere and save yourself the hassle.

I'm not filtering out the people who have good experiences with XFX RMAs, there were non that posted. Also, many people said that they needed to send the card in first before they could get a replacement, Tony sent his in after they gave him the 4th replacement. This is where he said that (I deleted most of the post, except for the paragraph where he mentions returning the card and I bolded the sentence):

Originally posted by: geforcetony
For your first question, I was actually lucky, as the card worked in Windows, though it would lock up from time to time, but refused to work in anything that would "stress" the card (such as DVD playback with hardware acceleration, or anything 3D). I told XFX this, and they said that they would send me a new card, and then, once I got it, I would send the defective card back. The reason for this is that I HAVE to have my computer for work, and already lost out on $150 or so because of these problems. By the way, Rollo, YES, I did send the defective card back already (today as a matter of fact), so you can't bitch at me about trying to get a free card.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: codeyf

Originally posted by: slash196
Rollo is a major league boner. For some reason he feels compelled to viciously attack random people for made-up offenses. I may not know as much about computers as he does, but I know a dick when I see one.

I can't say that I agree or disagree with this, but it's the funniest damn post in this whole thread!

haah yeha I lol'ed at that one too.














boner lol!!

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry

If that's true... then why don't we just rename the AT Video Forum to the AT Rollo's Official NV Fanboy Forum, and just leave it at that. Seriously.

You are too late, this is already known as the nvidia fanboy site. But that aside, I for one am very interested in how this pure video works and if it is now fixed. I sometimes watch movies.

 

[Duvie]

Well for at least the next few eeks we may be able to actual find out about the PVP debacle after all....

ROLLO is on a much needed mod sanctioned vacation...little R&R....

I would post any relevant stuff found out here inthe FAQ thread by Dapunisher to help better consolidate this. this thread is already way to long!!!

 

[otispunkmeyer]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer

Originally posted by: Tyrant222
just look at rollo's avatar,

then it all makes sense.

you sir are an idiot.


look at your avatar ..... its a crab, guess that means you come crawling out from under your rock to take cheap shots at respected members, before hiding your sorry a$$

Respected??? Where and by whom??? (joking...I am sure he has his legion of followers)

His moral highground is sickening. I hope he doesn't come over to the ocing forum and give us all a lecture as well....

Just another thread crap from the self appointed mod...or maybe we should call it self appointed god....

quote:
Originally posted by: Yourself
ahh...just ignore Rollo. The high moral ground is his "thing" lately. I actually remember back when he had insightful hardware posts...




I can't.

I cannot either creig.....


Virtuallarry hit the nail on the head....

Rollo I am watching you!!! My new and coming sig is going to mention you and a few of my friends may be carrying it as well....

if u cant ignore it then your putting the coal on the fire no? if your response to flames is to put more fuel on them then what u think is going to happen

 

[Acanthus]

Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

What in the world are you talking about. Rollo isn't the OP.

I don't think thats true Kevin. I think it may be true for Windows media Player, but couldn't they write their own application? I mean you can use use Windows media format SDK to write a custom program to accelerate windows media (even streaming media) using DXVA for ANY DX9 class hardware.

I see you bring that point up, but where is your source that says thats nothing more than support for accelerated Windows media in Windows Media Player itself, and do those DLL's enable it with just Nvidias PVP, or is it any DXVA supported DirectX9 class hardware as well?

I see the point you bring up. And im not sure that i can answer that question. In the purevideo article Anand said microsoft supplied them with special beta .Dll's to offload the processor workload onto the VPU. I suppose you could write your own program. The rest i honestly dont know off the top of my head.

-Kevin

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Rollo must be a troll because someone that cost a company $1500 was stupid enough to post that he did so on an internet forum full of people paying for things like this indirectly.

Gee, we shouldnt give him a hard time at all. Especially when he says he is going to return this one to XFX if it dies, after clearly stating that he modded the cooling.

No, the problem we have with Rollo is the abusive language he uses. Apparently the Mods have had their fill of it as well:

You have not helped anyone with anything with your seemingly endless, pointless, useless flaming. I am beyond tired of it, and I am even more tired of receiving complaints from others you offend.

Please spend two weeks elsewhere to consider how you can improve your forums courtesy.

AnandTech Moderator

 

[BobDaMenkey]

The first 2 cards weren't his fault dude. It's not his fault that those cards punked out on him, he didn't mod them in any way shape or form. The 3rd or 4th is up to debate, but he hadn't even gotten to modding the third before it died, and he was only going to do that to get it to run cooler, not because he was intentionally over taxxing the cards. He wasn't over clocking, he wasn't doing anything bad to any of the cards, they just up and freaking died on him.

I just got a message back from my dealer for my Leadtek card, it's going to show up on monday. Which is rather craptastic considering I would have much rather had it show up tonight for my LAN party, but oh well. I didn't do anything to the card. I didn't over clock it, I didn't fiddle with the heatsink or fan combo in any way shape or form. But when I taxed the card out to the limits of what I'm going to be doing on a regular basis, it sounded like the fan was going to die. So instead of putting up with an additional racket that could be distinctly heard over my 2 air cooled systems from inside one of them, I RMA'ed the card. So am I stealing a card? Am I conning the companies out of their money? I don't think so, I'm trying to get a product I'm happy with, one that doesn't sound like it's going to try and make its way down a runway or explode on me while I'm gaming.

But hey, it's so much fun to join in the bandwagon without actually reading up on all the facts now isn't it?

What's Pure Video suppost to do again? Make DVD playback smooth?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Where in the hell did you pull that from!?

-Kevin

Edit: That is ridiculous. He is not flaming the guy, im sure he isn't the only person who thinks that this entire issue is far fetched. There are PLENTY of worse people that need banning. The fact that he was flaming while it was true might not have happened if a few select people wouldn't bring him up in every single thread, and bash him there. :thumbsdown: I think this was a bad call!

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
The first 2 cards weren't his fault dude. It's not his fault that those cards punked out on him, he didn't mod them in any way shape or form. The 3rd or 4th is up to debate, but he hadn't even gotten to modding the third before it died, and he was only going to do that to get it to run cooler, not because he was intentionally over taxxing the cards. He wasn't over clocking, he wasn't doing anything bad to any of the cards, they just up and freaking died on him.

I just got a message back from my dealer for my Leadtek card, it's going to show up on monday. Which is rather craptastic considering I would have much rather had it show up tonight for my LAN party, but oh well. I didn't do anything to the card. I didn't over clock it, I didn't fiddle with the heatsink or fan combo in any way shape or form. But when I taxed the card out to the limits of what I'm going to be doing on a regular basis, it sounded like the fan was going to die. So instead of putting up with an additional racket that could be distinctly heard over my 2 air cooled systems from inside one of them, I RMA'ed the card. So am I stealing a card? Am I conning the companies out of their money? I don't think so, I'm trying to get a product I'm happy with, one that doesn't sound like it's going to try and make its way down a runway or explode on me while I'm gaming.

But hey, it's so much fun to join in the bandwagon without actually reading up on all the facts now isn't it?

What's Pure Video suppost to do again? Make DVD playback smooth?

Ok, you joined the 27th. What proof do we have that you are not just the OP in a second account!? Seems kind of suspicious to me, people dont just get their friends to log on and back them up.

-Kevin

 

[BobDaMenkey]

I got tired of Tony whining to me about you guys ganging up on him.

But it is settled, this evening on the LAN, we shall have a small photo shoot. Did you want us to include some pool side bathing suit shots too?

 

[fishmonger12]

Originally posted by: BobDaMenkey
. Did you want us to include some pool side bathing suit shots too?

pics plz.

if any company would send him 4 bad cards, it would be xfx.

why don't you just stop modding the cooling and see if the problems persist? i know that sounds far fetched... you would think after the second card you would be tired of sending stuff back.

 

[knyghtbyte]

havnt read the whole thread......just i'd post my own view regarding sending back a faulty product.

if i havnt done anything to the card other than use it within the guidelines and it fails then i expect to have it replaced if still under warranty.

if i have o/c'ed the card or altered it physically then i dont expect anything, i wouldnt try either, its my fault as i've gone against the original product as it was sold to me. Unless the manufacturer or the retailer stated in their sales pitch or conditions that im allowed to (within moderation) alter the product then its my own fault and its unfair as has been commented on to get refunds/replacements therefore raising the price for other people.

and yes, thats how i would behave, i earn a reasonable amount of money considering i only work part time due to medical problems, i dont receive money from benefit systems, but i do believe that if im earning i should pay my way fairly.

ok, written-while-bored-at-work-post over.......LOL

 

[rbV5]

Edit: That is ridiculous. He is not flaming the guy, im sure he isn't the only person who thinks that this entire issue is far fetched. There are PLENTY of worse people that need banning. The fact that he was flaming while it was true might not have happened if a few select people wouldn't bring him up in every single thread, and bash him there. I think this was a bad call!

BS, its WAY PAST DUE. That moderator isn't the only one tired of Rollo's stupid shenanigans. I don't know another member who has crapped on more theads and slung more flaming insults in the Video forum. He seems to think that this is Video P/N, and the lack of warnings and moderation up untill now have only served to give him the go-ahead to keep it up and encourage others to join in on the "fun":roll:...now maybe a little more thinking before he starts his nonesense again...ABOUT FRIKIN" TIME. :thumbsup: to the mods

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Originally posted by: DaveA
anyone want some popcorn? good stuff. lol

No butter or salt for me please

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Edit: That is ridiculous. He is not flaming the guy, im sure he isn't the only person who thinks that this entire issue is far fetched. There are PLENTY of worse people that need banning. The fact that he was flaming while it was true might not have happened if a few select people wouldn't bring him up in every single thread, and bash him there. I think this was a bad call!

BS, its WAY PAST DUE. That moderator isn't the only one tired of Rollo's stupid shenanigans. I don't know another member who has crapped on more theads and slung more flaming insults in the Video forum. He seems to think that this is Video P/N, and the lack of warnings and moderation up untill now have only served to give him the go-ahead to keep it up and encourage others to join in on the "fun":roll:...now maybe a little more thinking before he starts his nonesense again...ABOUT FRIKIN" TIME. :thumbsup: to the mods

agreed!

perhaps that specific "incident" was not as bad as certain "worse people" but it is part of a PATTERN of harrasment - i.e. "the straw that broke the mod's back". . . . i simply stopped reading rollo's posts because of his personal attacks . . . . HOPEFULLY he will learn to "play nice" when he returns . . . . personally i am going to enjoy visiting Video for the next fortnight.
:roll:

 

[Insomniak]

I never minded Rollo, although I do think he came in a bit hard on this particular thread. Probably should've just sent the guys info to XFX and been done with it. No real need for all the other feather ruffling.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
The third replacement died on me about a week ago, and NV 5 Silencer from the old card, and removed the stock 6800GT heatsink from the new one.

So you are a thief. On top of that you're probably misinstalling the NV5 and connecting leads because of cunductivity in AS. I hate you and I hope you burn in hell. Not only have you stolen a graphics card from XFX but very likely you have stolen 3 graphics cards from XFX. You drive market price up and have no integrity.

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: geforcetony

Originally posted by: RolloThere's nothing wrong with XFX, there's something wrong with GeForce Tony for stealing three video cards from honest people so he can try to get "free" performance clocking it at 374/535.

He's contributing to the cost you all pay for these cards, apparently has no honor whatsoever, and should be reviled for making a post like:

WAIT!!! OK, I'm not stealing ANYBODY's videocard. The reason the card is clocked at 374\535 is because that is what it is set at FACTORY in the BIOS, if I had webspace to upload a picture of RivaTuner and CoolBits settings, I would happily provide a link so you can see the proof for yourself. In fact, I am NOT OVERCLOCKING ANYTHING in my system. Also, this is only the second card that I have had from XFX clocked at these speeds (the 2 cards have the same BIOS rev). I have had cards from XFX with the following speeds:

350\500 - the first 6800GT that died about 2 months after I got it
370\500 - the second 6800GT that was dead when I got it
374\535 - the last 2 cards I got, the first was good for about two and a half weeks, and the other, I'm using.

Don't accuse me of something unless you know your facts, Rollo, which you didn't.

YOU HAVE AN NV5 ON THE THIRD CARD!!! DID IT COME FROM THE FACTORY LIKE THAT!?!?

Once a liar always a liar.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: stnicralisk

I hate you and I hope you burn in hell.

Wow....

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: geforcetony
Upon examining the "naked" card, I noticed that the new GPU was slightly (by about 2mm) thinner than the one on the old card. Also, I noticed that the new GPU was fabbed in Taiwan (at TSMC), while the other was fabbed in China (IBM, I believe)?

So has any other site/person noticed anything along these lines? Possibly a new core revision?

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: LTC8K6

370\500 - the second 6800GT that was dead when I got it

If it was dead when you got it, how do you know what it was clocked at? Hmmmmm.......

Nice one!

 

[stnicralisk]

Originally posted by: slash196
Rollo is a major league boner. For some reason he feels compelled to viciously attack random people for made-up offenses. I may not know as much about computers as he does, but I know a dick when I see one.

What offense did he make up? The guy admits to modifying at least one graphics card before RMAing it. He also claims to know the speed of a card that was DOA.

Are you just an idiot? I mean I hate to be so blunt with people who I had no intentions of bashing but I have to ask.

With him ADMITTING to modifying the graphics card before RMA there is no question of whether or not there has been a violation of warranty. He also goes back and forth saying that the card temps were fine and then oh i didnt post it but they werent fine. He also says he knows the speed of a card that was DOA.

How can you be so fudging gullible as to believe anything that this person ever says?

Do you really want to have people like this contribute to the boards? If so maybe I am on the wrong boards.

I dont always agree with Rollo but I dont see how a moral society could accept this person into open arms.