problem is that pure vegan diets are not healthy longterm for women because they are more prone to thinner bones and osteopreosis. They cannot get enough calcium not mention vitamin b12 in the diet if its purely plant based.
Originally posted by: Legend
Remember all the Low-Carbians of just 1 year ago? Soon we'll see High-Carbians and many of them will be Low-Carbian converts. Weight loss Diets are more Religion than science and like Religion there are as many Con-Artists cooking up a convincing Con then there are legitimate experts.
I doubt it.
Read what they're eating. Fresh fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. This takes effort, and people that haven't taken the time to learn real healthy lifestyles (as opposed to learning false health tips from advertisements). I doubt they'll take the effort to eat healthy.
It seems a lack of meat is the only flaw (or challenge) in getting enough protein. It's very balanced otherwise and healthy.
If people read "carbs are good" and stuff themselves with white garlic bread, snacks, etc, then that's different.
Carbs weren't really ever bad, until we decided to process them. Whole grains --> white flour. Refined Sugar. High Fructose corn syrup. Fruit ---> fruit juice.
Originally posted by: conjur
I wonder if it's something more in the mindset of someone who chooses to be vegetarian. They're already super health conscious to make that decision and will, imo, be less likely to plop in front of the boob tube with a bag of Doritoes and a liter of Pepsi.
Originally posted by: Legend
Yeah, I meant it was a bad processed carb. I was too lazy to say corn ---> High fructose Corn Syrup because I don't even know how they make it.
Originally posted by: conjur
I wonder if it's something more in the mindset of someone who chooses to be vegetarian. They're already super health conscious to make that decision and will, imo, be less likely to plop in front of the boob tube with a bag of Doritoes and a liter of Pepsi.
Originally posted by: AbAbber2k
NEWS FLASH! VEGANS ARE SKINNY!
Originally posted by: BSEagle1
Vegetarian: We just don't eat meat from animals or fish, or anything that was once alive and sentient. We do, however, eat meat substitutes, dairy, and eggs.
Very true. At 6', ~200 lbs I was overweight. Not obese, but definitely heavier than I wanted to be. I lost around 20 lbs this summer just by cutting down on preprepared foods. I still eat the same amount that I used to, I don't starve myself and never feel undernourished.Originally posted by: rahvin
Their weight loss has nothing to do with not eating animal products, it has everything to do with avoiding processed foods.
Originally posted by: maluckey
Weight loss does not always equate to "healthy". Lean mass/weight/blood pressure/resting pulse rate is a better indicator. Vegans normally have a hard time in sports because they are lacking many essential amino acids. Most all need supplementation of some kind to receive adequate amounts to build muscle.
Originally posted by: Napalm
This is one study and proves zilch. The conclusions are much to simplistic...
For every study showing that meat is "evil", their is a counter study showing that carbs are "evil". For every good study, there are 5 bad ones (i.e., with all sorts of confounding variables). This is science... Its much more useful to focus on the entire body of literature in this area and make conclusion based on where there is a preponderance of evidence.
If you are at all interested, I'd suggesting looking into the literature that focuses on the combo - i.e., the predominantly North American diet of carbs + meat...
This is one study and proves zilch. The conclusions are much to simplistic...
For every study showing that meat is "evil", their is a counter study showing that carbs are "evil". For every good study, there are 5 bad ones (i.e., with all sorts of confounding variables). This is science... Its much more useful to focus on the entire body of literature in this area and make conclusion based on where there is a preponderance of evidence.