New stuff on the way: What do you think ?

[Pete]

I value a quiet system highly, so if you haven't given that any thought I'd suggest you do. With an Intel CPU you'll probably only need the PS fan for a stable system, since you won't be OCing anything, so make sure you're getting a good, quiet PS. And make sure that MB has an AGP4x slot--I thought only the 815E's did?

 

[BigLance]

Are you trying to say that Intel Chipsets are not as stable as VIA/Athlon Setups ?? What are you smoking bud ?

And check these benchmarks, yes those are Thunderbirds...

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=13
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=14
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=17
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=18
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=19
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=20
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1252&p=22
http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/hardware/reviews/cpu/thunderbird_1ghz/8.shtml
http://www.sharkeyextreme.com/hardware/reviews/cpu/thunderbird_1ghz/11.shtml

(Sure is a lot of benchmarks showing P3's speed!)


And this, taken from the conclusion of the Thunderbird review here at Anand: "If you were expecting the Thunderbird to completely wipe away the competition then you're most likely going to be dissappointed by its performance"

But by posting these benchmarks that Show the P3 outperforming the Thunderbird I'm not tryint to say the P3 is faster, Some things P3 is better, some things AMD is better. There isn't that much difference, but an Intel CPU on an Intel Chipset on an Intel Motherboard is generally going to be more stable that an AMD/VIA setup !!! Period.

 

[LXi]

Smoke on these benchmarks, buddy., KT133A with 133Mhz front side bus, takes down i815E and P3 easily.

Im not saying VIA/AMD is more stable than Intel, but this statement:

"but an Intel CPU on an Intel Chipset on an Intel Motherboard is generally going to be more stable that an AMD/VIA setup !!! Period."

Shows how much you dont know about the AMD flatform.

 

[BigLance]

I apperciate your concern about this Intel Motherboard. Most i815 chipset boards don't come with all the goodies, however this board is pretty well equipped:

Intel D815EEA Motherboard Specs:

Intel 815E Chipset
AGP 4X
Built in Intel 10/100 PRO Lan
5 PCI Slots
3 133Mhz DIMM Slots - 512MB Max
Ultra ATA/100
4 USB Ports
Built in Video and SB PCI128 (Both will be disabled in my case though....)

 

[spaceman]

ive been with amd a short time from being strictly intel,got an a7v and tbird its been rock solid since set up,1st amd sys i ever built.

 

[BigLance]

Well, why dont you ask everyone how they feel about Intel/Intel setup VS. AMD/VIA setup... LOL, I think the majority would honestly give the Intel platform the Reliability award and the AMD the speed award..

- So sit on that and twist !

 

[rhinox99]

<< the majority would honestly give the Intel platform the Reliability award >>



Yeah if the majority consisted of thick headed individuals like you. It's cool if you don't want to listen to more experienced people who have learned from their mistakes but go ahead if you want to make your own mistakes and learn the hard way. You're the one that has to live with the fact that you paid more for an inferior system, not anyone else on this board

P.S: Do you think the world is flat as well?

 

[LXi]

LOL at yourself, do a poll right now, I can bet my house that any well informed people will agree AMD/VIA solution is just as stable as Intel.

 

[backWERD]

I'll have to agree on LXI on this one but hey im not the one who has to live with what you purchase you do.

 

[erub]

O god another flame war. I don't know if anybody else has started to skip over LXi's posts, but I have. Every time he drills the same thing. MSI K7T Turbo, accept no substitues, unless somebody wants to go with the MSI K7T Pro 2A because they don't want to wait. I'm glad you like MSI so much, but frankly I think you need to be slightly more open to other suggestions.

Although I do have to concur that this guy should get what he wants, an Intel system, although I can't possibly think of why he would want to go with an Intel system except that marketing has done its job.

 

[LXi]

Im sorry dude, but where did I say K7T Turbo here? I said he should go with a KT133A board. I can care less if you skip my posts, but I recommend MSI for a reason, and Im wide open to other manufacturers, you obviously have misunderstood me.

 

[BigLance]

More experianced my ass, you dick heads. I have an Athlon/VIA now....... I know what they are like... how many times do I have to say this... ?

 

[LXi]

How many Athlon systems can you put together? One? Two maybe? I checked your rigs and you dont own a single Athlon system, yea your brother's doesnt count. What are you afraid of? Start a poll now and see whether people agree or not.

 

[BigLance]

&quot;I wouldn't necessarily say that Intel is more reliable than AMD processor-wise. However, I will say that Intel chipsets are better than Via without a doubt. Via makes some great products (of which I currently own one: msi pro2a), but there are little compatibility and quality issues that pop up every so often and I won't deny it. However, AMD chipsets have come a LONG way in a short period of time, and are now almost up to par with Intel. It's getting to be more a matter of opinion than fact, and there are pros and cons on both sides of the field.

Get the computer you want with the chipset you're looking for that fits what you're going to be doing. The system you explained looks like a nice one (I actually almost got the P3 800@100mhz fsb myself), and the best of luck with it &quot;

-Whipser


Oh, and I suppose Whisper is a stupid thick headed member too ?

 

[BigLance]

Hey dumbass, that Athlon was mine, I just sold it to him yesterday... 3rd Athlon system I have built. 5th total AMD system...

 

[LXi]

Do I have to remind you about the i820 fiasco? The Memory Translator Hub? The cancellation of Timna? The 1.13GHz P3 recall? The i850 overheating problem that caused retail stores to pull P4 systems? Still think Intel chipsets are better? They couldnt even manage to outperform their 3 year old BX chipset.

Start a poll right now, the reality will prove you wrong.

 

[BigLance]

WTF ? Who mentioned anything about i820 and the rest of that crap. Were talking i815 and VIA (for Athlons). Hey, let me know when AMD becomes bigger and better than Intel.. oh I forgot, AMD will never get bigger... sorry...

 

[LXi]

Listen Intel zealot, learn more about AMD and VIA before starting to spill your steaming bullshit. If you have the guts, prove it to me how the i815 is better than KT133A.

 

[mmnatas]

All things being equal, AMD is a much better deal clock for clock, you can get an AMD SocketA 1 ghz for $176 vs P3 1 ghz for $345.

 

[Budman]

Your thread title should have been,

New Intel system on the way: I dont care what you think!

I find your comments really childish,you ask people their opinion &amp; when they do you call them Dickheads &amp; Dumbasses, real mature.:disgust:

 

[PCResources]

Ok... let's calm down a bit here...

I own a company called PC Resources, we do special solutions for the very high end, and guess what, i rarely sell any Intel CPU's, i mostly sell designed Athlon systems and i do sell some Alpha systems as well... And these server systems goes to companies who cannot afford ANY downtime...

Regarding stability, there is nothing to be afraid of, if you choose crappy hardware you will end up with a crappy system.... it is that simple... A crappy video card or memory stick will do the job just fine...

If i were to recommend a system i would certainly not recommend Intel for stability, it is stable, but so is a good solid Athlon system.

Go with a T-bird, a MSI KT133 or if you can wait a 760 board... For memory, i recommend Crucial memory or Mosel Vitalic...

AMD is stable, via chipsets are stable, anyone who states anything else is just listening to fools, or is stating it just because he doesn't know any better...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[Dulanic]

You also have to remeber you have an older chipset, KT133 is more matured and is more stable then KX133 was, VIA has all of a sudden become respected and very stable with the KT133. I own a KT133 and I have NEVER had a crash with Win2K PERIOD. You can tell yourself Intel chipsets are more stable, but its just not true with KT133, its an excellent chipset. VIA did an EXCELLENT job with KT133 and it just SMASHES anything else when it comes to memory performance (Except of corse AMD 760). The KT133A is the same as the KT133 except it does 266 FSB.

 

[PCResources]

<< More experianced my ass, you dick heads. I have an Athlon/VIA now....... I know what they are like... how many times do I have to say this... ? >>



Well, just because you screwed up your Athlon system... Does that mean that you cannot screw up your new Intel system....

I AM more experienced than you, and i can tell you that you are wrong..... If you cannot accept that, fine... what can i say...

I would recommend that you would buy a dell computer, with everything pre-installed, then maybe you could use the computer without any problems....

The old statement, crap behind the keyboard, might be of some use to describe your situation...

Patrick Palm

Am speaking for PC Resources

 

[skull]

Anyone else think he ordered it before and just wanted to brag? Now hes getting mad that people think he should've picked something else.

 

[kami]

my lord you AMD people get defensive...take it easy for christ's sake. he made his decision, so shut up