New SuperPI WR goes to....

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Ya show them results and than they want the test changed. I do agree with Duvie on this . He is right! Still its impressive. Duvie speculate 1 time on this question. Merom 4mb shared catch . I say under 19 seconds. .

I say: STFU, n00b!

Sorry, all, but this post-whoring, double-posting, newbie-misleading POS can not be allowed to exist any longer (at least, on these forums), so go the FVCK away!

 

[Pabster]

As usual, nothing is good enough for the AMD fanboys

In seriousness, while this is impressive, LN2 cooling isn't the type of thing a typical user would have. Or even invest in. How many people want to blow a few grand for 1 minute of benchmark fame?

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Pabster
As usual, nothing is good enough for the AMD fanboys

In seriousness, while this is impressive, LN2 cooling isn't the type of thing a typical user would have. Or even invest in. How many people want to blow a few grand for 1 minute of benchmark fame?

It's not that I'm not impressed, I am impressed with the score of this Dothan chip, I really am. But, as usual, Intelia transforms this small "Intel victory" to an "Intel pwns AMD" thread.

 

[Duvie]

I am not impressed by anything using those extreme and unrealistic cooling methods....I like above would be impressed with a vapochill or prometia.....

I also agree with zebo..Look at the spread ppl are ahead of FX55's oc'd with the 1mb yet the 32mb leads like this are not there. It is widely known the 1mb test can be loaded entirely in the cache and therefore to run the 32mb test is a true test...how many apps can load 100% entirely in the cache??? Cmon lets be realistic here....

Real world ppl!!! Run a F&H unit and report the protein number or run a SETI unit...then I will be impressed!!!

 

[theMan]

i wonder what that 4200mhz fx-55 got...

 

[coomar]

i'm feeling bad about posting in a thread that had been dead for 2 weeks and opening this can of worms again

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: theman
i wonder what that 4200mhz fx-55 got...

i dont think it was stable .. would be damn sweeet if it was tho

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: theman
i wonder what that 4200mhz fx-55 got...

It was able to post bios only . So to ans your question it won't get anthing.

 

[Sixtyfour]

Nice rules they have..
They say that it is not fair if FX-57 uses all its features like SSE3, so they use old version of the software..

 

[stratman]

I think there's some truth to the Dothan being able to do better at 1mb than 32mb because of the 2m cache. I'm running a 1.6 Dothan, and I get a pretty sweet time (when you take into account it's clockspeed) of 46s (patched), but my 32mb time kind of sucks.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: stratman
I think there's some truth to the Dothan being able to do better at 1mb than 32mb because of the 2m cache. I'm running a 1.6 Dothan, and I get a pretty sweet time (when you take into account it's clockspeed) of 46s (patched), but my 32mb time kind of sucks.

Ofcourse I didn't make it up...

In real world apps like encoding cache wont mean crap....in games they love the cache and hence why the dothan does well also...

I have a new 1.86ghz 533fsb dothan coming and I am going to do a host of test on it andget to the exact bottom of this...

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: stratman
I think there's some truth to the Dothan being able to do better at 1mb than 32mb because of the 2m cache. I'm running a 1.6 Dothan, and I get a pretty sweet time (when you take into account it's clockspeed) of 46s (patched), but my 32mb time kind of sucks.

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Ofcourse I didn't make it up...

In real world apps like encoding cache wont mean crap....in games they love the cache and hence why the dothan does well also...

I have a new 1.86ghz 533fsb dothan coming and I am going to do a host of test on it andget to the exact bottom of this...[/q
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Now this is good news way to go duvie. I agree with you 100% on the cache all the way but it is in the cpu so it still counts . Just as the ondie memory controller Adds 30% to the performance of the AMD 64 cpu. Take the ondie controller out and Intel is faster by far. But its there so it still counts!!!!!

 

[NokiaDude]

Now if they only made a desktop version.

Prescott is a joke.

 

[Sixtyfour]

Originally posted by: NokiaDude
Now if they only made a desktop version.

Prescott is a joke.

When they fix Dothans poor multimedia and fpu performance it starts to consume more power.
So it really isn't that great cpu as some claim it to be.

 

[jfrog]

Originally posted by: Technonut

Originally posted by: BouZouki

Originally posted by: Duvie
Yeah as long as we are talking about realistic cooling!!! :roll:

Whats wrong?

From the post you linked...

CPU Cooling: LN2 (Pro3 + V-TEC ARC Bed Rev.3.4)

EDIT: I posted before you edited your post...

Anyhow, the more extreme the better, but I would have more respect if it was a 24/7 runner...

How about:

New dod in preparation :
Big condenser and very big scroll compressor and a 2-stage cascade

 

[boshuter]

Originally posted by: coomar
i'm feeling bad about posting in a thread that had been dead for 2 weeks and opening this can of worms again

Don't feel bad about it..... if it had been an amd on ln2 doing something impressive they would have been cheering about it all over this forum.:disgust: This is pretty much an amd forum and not much into overclocking at the levels they do on XS. One of the guy on XS had a quote for someone who brought up the old "well it aint stable crap", it was "well this aint Cost Effective.org" lmao. There is nothing wrong with wanting stability for 24/7 use, but there also isn't anything wrong with benchmarking for scores and damn the stablilty. We are starting a benchmarking competition on XS this coming monday and I can pretty much guarantee no 24/7 system will be in the top scores. I just don't understand why people have to put down other accomplisments no matter what brand cpu they run or how they choose to cool it..... it really makes AT look bad

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
When they fix Dothans poor multimedia and fpu performance it starts to consume more power.
So it really isn't that great cpu as some claim it to be.

And your facts to support that ludicrous claim (or is it a theory?) are?

If I could have a penny for all the FUD running around these forums I'd be a millionaire.

 

[fatty4ksu]

That is an INSANE! chip for a labbie.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
When they fix Dothans poor multimedia and fpu performance it starts to consume more power.
So it really isn't that great cpu as some claim it to be.

And your facts to support that ludicrous claim (or is it a theory?) are?

If I could have a penny for all the FUD running around these forums I'd be a millionaire.

And thats just off the Intel fanbois.... all 5 of them

Thread crapping aside, a prime and memtest stable processor used on cooling which could sustain such an overclock for a decent time would impress me.

LN2 is just a flash in the pan although it does make your mouth water when you see how high the processors can go in the extreme. ie. sort out heat problems and see how far they go.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Duvie
I have a new 1.86ghz 533fsb dothan coming and I am going to do a host of test on it andget to the exact bottom of this...

Ah, the exact chip arriving in my new Inspiron 9300 lappie.

What board will you be running it on?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Sixtyfour
When they fix Dothans poor multimedia and fpu performance it starts to consume more power.
So it really isn't that great cpu as some claim it to be.

And your facts to support that ludicrous claim (or is it a theory?) are?

If I could have a penny for all the FUD running around these forums I'd be a millionaire.

Naw you'd be a street bumb because you can't recognise FUD from fact in order to collect.

Originally posted by: Anand
That being said, despite being paired with enough memory bandwidth, the Pentium M continues to fall behind in desktop performance. As a gaming platform and as a general purpose/office machine, the Pentium M does fairly well, but it is in content creation, workstation and media encoding applications that the Pentium M continues to fall behind. Part of the problem is that the Pentium M needs clock speed to compete, which we saw when we overclocked it up to 2.56GHz. But even at 2.56GHz, the Pentium M wasn't a competitive CPU when it came to tasks like media encoding, indicating that if the Pentium M is to succeed on the desktop, it's going to need some architectural improvements.

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2382

 

[Pabster]

LOL. Zebo, go back to your cave. And quit disputing Pentium M. We've already seen that clock-for-clock it manages to keep up with Athlon 64 despite a much slower FSB and single-channel DDR memory. It also trumps A64 in the power consumption arena, but that goes without saying.

Does the fact that the SuperPI record belongs to an INTEL processor really bother you that much?

 

[Zebo]

Superpi has always been owned by intel nothing new, just another synthetic which Intel somehow always excels in And no I could care less if it's hitting 1s sPI until someone proves to me it's has bearing in real world, apps I use.

Since when do we compare processors clock for clock? You wanna do that w/ P4's? Even a duron is a "better" chip than p4's by that standard... and besides no it is'nt better clock for clock. FX55 beats it like a drum when dothan is OC to 2.56 only 40 mhz less on same review.

single-channel DDR memory

geez you're clueless. It's DC dothan on that setup. Read the GD review/ I don't have time for complete morons.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: jbh129
Super 32M is not a reference benchmark, 1M is. 32M is a stability test.

The reference benchmarks (the only ones that matter) are:

1. 3dMark 01
2. 3dMark 03
3. 3dMark 05
4. Super PI 1M
5. PiFast (kinding of dying lately)

and maybe, but not yet,

6. cinebench

Haha. You really think all those synthetic benches matter? How sad.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Since when do we compare processors clock for clock? You wanna do that w/ P4's? Even a duron is a "better" chip than p4's by that standard... and besides no it is'nt better clock for clock. FX55 beats it like a drum when dothan is OC to 2.56 only 40 mhz less on same review.

I'd certainly hope the FX55 could beat a laptop chip (Although the M did best it in a couple tests! )

geez you're clueless. It's DC dothan on that setup. Read the GD review/ I don't have time for complete morons.

<sigh>

A complete moron is one who still refuses to accept the facts. Dothan is an impressive core that only an AMD fanboy could label as "disappointing" or "flawed". Considering it was designed to be a MOBILE chip and is being Macgyvered in to a desktop configuration with several limitations I'd say it is pretty damn impressive.