New Title: Do 'posse rappers' have real talent or do they just get a break from their friends?

[anxi80]

im surprised Nelly and his St Lunatics werent mentioned in this thread. They released an album that sold very poorly. Even one of the members tried to go solo and found limited success. They have a guy who wears a mask and doesnt even rhyme! he doesnt talk, nothing! so, yeah, i see the point in this thread.

lol, usually id be in the center of this hip hop is good/it sucks argument, but ive already been in too many on this board, so ill just say "to each his own" and leave it at that.

 

[BillyGoat]

MTV, radio stations whatever mass media device is you preference

WTF? Your assuming too much

When the last time you heard
Jurrasic 5
headPE
Tool
Dream Theater

Or the likes on any of these mediums?
Thats what i listen to for the most part....

Are you just upset because i dont care much for someone you like?

I would not be so upset to make assumptions about someone based on there opinion of someone i like.
You know what they say about opinions...... everyone has one, Get over it and
quit trying to blame Mass Media or Pop culture as my influances... you dont even know me

 

[Bushwicktrini]

Originally posted by: anxi80
im surprised Nelly and his St Lunatics werent mentioned in this thread. They released an album that sold very poorly. Even one of the members tried to go solo and found limited success. They have a guy who wears a mask and doesnt even rhyme! he doesnt talk, nothing! so, yeah, i see the point in this thread.

lol, usually id be in the center of this hip hop is good/it sucks argument, but ive already been in too many on this board, so ill just say "to each his own" and leave it at that.

They are what I was talking about in a group you are always going to have the strong (nelly, BIG, Tupac,Jay-z Nas) and the weak (St.lunatics, Braveharts , Junior Mafia) btw Strong doesn't alway mean best rapper/singer it mean best preformer.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: BillyGoat0

MTV, radio stations whatever mass media device is you preference

WTF? Your assuming too much

When the last time you heard
Jurrasic 5
headPE
Tool
Dream Theater

Or the likes on any of these mediums?
Thats what i listen to for the most part....

Are you just upset because i dont care much for someone you like?

I would not be so upset to make assumptions about someone based on there opinion of someone i like.
You know what they say about opinions...... everyone has one, Get over it and
quit trying to blame Mass Media or Pop culture as my influances... you dont even know me

J5 are alright, not that good. Ever heard D-Block? Big L? Canibus? Never heard of them? They are some of the best out there but you have never heard of them because they are not mainstream.

 

[BillyGoat]

Actually same guy that turned me onto j-5 also is a d-block freak

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: BillyGoat0

MTV, radio stations whatever mass media device is you preference

WTF? Your assuming too much

When the last time you heard
Jurrasic 5
headPE
Tool
Dream Theater

Or the likes on any of these mediums?
Thats what i listen to for the most part....

Are you just upset because i dont care much for someone you like?

I would not be so upset to make assumptions about someone based on there opinion of someone i like.
You know what they say about opinions...... everyone has one, Get over it and
quit trying to blame Mass Media or Pop culture as my influances... you dont even know me

I'm gonna break this down again........more simplerer for you

you based your opinion only on his most mainstream album thats what i based my comments on. If you really knew the artist you would also be familiar with the music that is not heard on mtv and the radio. that was my whole point. How can you pass an opinion if you don't really know the artist aside from the mainstream stuff. I may be wrong in doing this but i simply disregard opinions based only on listen to a mainstream sample of an artists work. sorry if this upsets you.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: BillyGoat0
Actually same guy that turned me onto j-5 also is a d-block freak

Ok, so you have heard D-Block but not 50's mix tapes? I find this hard to believe.

 

[gigapet]

underground:

how hot would have cannibus' first album have been if the beats were as tight as the rhymes??? Platinum X 10 hot

what do u think?

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: BillyGoat0

MTV, radio stations whatever mass media device is you preference

WTF? Your assuming too much

When the last time you heard
Jurrasic 5
headPE
Tool
Dream Theater

Or the likes on any of these mediums?
Thats what i listen to for the most part....

Are you just upset because i dont care much for someone you like?

I would not be so upset to make assumptions about someone based on there opinion of someone i like.
You know what they say about opinions...... everyone has one, Get over it and
quit trying to blame Mass Media or Pop culture as my influances... you dont even know me

I'm gonna break this down again........more simplerer for you

you based your opinion only on his most mainstream album thats what i based my comments on. If you really knew the artist you would also be familiar with the music that is not heard on mtv and the radio. that was my whole point. How can you pass an opinion if you don't really know the artist aside from the mainstream stuff. I may be wrong in doing this but i simply disregard opinions based only on listen to a mainstream sample of an artists work. sorry if this upsets you.

He is just not capable of understanding the concept man, let it go.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: gigapet
underground:

how hot would have cannibus' first album have been if the beats were as tight as the rhymes??? Platinum X 10 hot

what do u think?

It's true. He just needs some alchemist/red spyda/etc.

Waiting for Rip The Jacker. Hope he finally drops the classic he is capable of.

 

[BillyGoat]

havent really heard alot of d-block, but like i said my freind Mel is a freak and he turned me on to the funk/hip hop
Galatic also comes to mind...

I'm gonna break this down again........more simplerer for you

My original statement was that i wouldnt pay 50 cents for his album thats out,
His previous work has no impact on that .
Anyways, im sick of argueing about it , really I guess im just not entitled to have an opinion

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Anyone have a list of all the songs Canibus has sang?

Also more info on Lloyd Banks?

 

[GoingUp]

Its POS rappers, not posse rappers

 

[Flatline]

Often, one of the "woodwork" guys actually writes most of the lyrics for the group but just isn't real comfortable on stage.

Anyone know if Styles of Beyond is ever going to release a new album? 2000 Fold had some ill tracks.

 

[fjorner]

rappers have talent?

 

[DrPizza]

<--- agrees with you, uncJIGGA. People without talent are being crammed down our throats. But, if you expand your horizons beyond rap, you'll realize how much influence the recording industry has on what we hear. Throughout the industry, it's more of a who you know, rather than how good you are. (or, in addition to who you know.... who you sleep with probably applies as well in a few cases - not saying that those artists whose sex appeal has contributed to their fame aren't talented, because a few are... but it's only a few)

So, in the end, we end up with a mixture of talented and untalented artists on the airwaves.... and a culture that seems to worship these people. Plus, an awful lot of people who are afraid to say "their stuff sucks, they have no talent, all those fans are just jumping on a bandwagon" for fear of being ostracized by the masses who've been brainwashed by mtv etc to believe their stuff is good.

 

[Underground727]

Originally posted by: mAdD INDIAN
Anyone have a list of all the songs Canibus has sang?

Also more info on Lloyd Banks?

For canibus stuff just check amazon or fye or whatever. He has 2 new mixtapes that came out recently though. try googling for canibus mixtapes or something.

Banks:

Victory (Pure Crazy)
Porno Star
Don't Push Me (Even Crazier) (My stomach's touchin what i'm clutchin to give you more than a concussion, end of discussion)
No 1 On 1 / You're Not Ready
'Round Here
Banks Workout 1 & 2
Order Of Protection
Soldier

aww screw it... check out the best of lloyd banks mixtape: http://www.mixtapekings.com/hiphop/djs/g-unit-the_best_of_lloyd_banks.asp

 

[GhettoFob]

Originally posted by: Millennium
Cash Money pwnz j00!

BLING! BLING!

 

[UNCjigga]

Originally posted by: gigapet
underground:

how hot would have cannibus' first album have been if the beats were as tight as the rhymes??? Platinum X 10 hot

what do u think?

Who produced his first album...was it Wyclef himself or one of his buddies?

 

[Spac3d]

You guys f'ing disgust me:disgust:. No one in this thread has any knowledge about rap but gigapet and Underground727. The rest of you are making judgements from this mainstream rap - which does not do any justice to all the genre's of rap. Yes, genre's. There are so many different styles of rap that so many people don't even know. The only genre you people even know is the mainstream rap which radio stations and MTV cram down people's throats.

If you want to have a real debate about this, go get educated. I refused to talk to ignorant people who create facts (look at uncJIGGA's first post) and pass judgement on it.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: uncJIGGAOh, and BTW I'm not white, nor black either. Brown. I hate it when white folks try to call me out for being white on a forum when they don't know wtf they're talking about...

I hate it when brown people like me make threads ranting on a forum when they don't know wtf they're talking about...

uncJIGGA, you are a disgrace to my skin color.

 

[Pepsi90919]

 

[MichaelD]

Yo'G! Sup?

Lemme tell 'ya 'bout my homeboy PeteyP. See, playa, PeteyP is a cold chillin' playa friend of MichaelD. He can bust the moves with the IP addys just like yours truly.

 

[loosliptcomptrola]

50 cent sucks, Nelly sucks all these worthless-ass radio MC's rap about stupid shyt that reflects badly on hip hop. I don't care what y'all think about what I say here but I haven't heard anyone mention anyone notable in the underground... J5 is not that underground people!

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: loosliptcomptrola
50 cent sucks, Nelly sucks all these worthless-ass radio MC's rap about stupid shyt that reflects badly on hip hop. I don't care what y'all think about what I say here but I haven't heard anyone mention anyone notable in the underground... J5 is not that underground people!

I agree. I dont like Nelly, I don't like 50cent. I hate J5. But I do listen to some of the southern rappers. Paul Wall and Chamillionaire are crazy. I can't wait for their new album.

Copywrite is a good example of a white boy underground rapper. Representing Columbus too. He dated my friends sister, cool guy.