New type of CPU...

Magic Carpet

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People are gaming with dual-core Celerons/Pentiums and low-clocked (i.e. ancient) quad-cores? Nothing's weird.
 

cbn

Lifer
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Two most popular "video cards" on the Steam Hardware Survey:

Intel HD Graphics 3000
4.26%


Intel HD Graphics 4000
3.64%

I am surprised that almost 8% of users are not opting for more.
 

toyota

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Two most popular "video cards" on the Steam Hardware Survey:

Intel HD Graphics 3000
4.26%


Intel HD Graphics 4000
3.64%

I am surprised that almost 8% of users are not opting for more.

opting for more? many people just have a basic pc and know nothing about it. also many Steam users are just causal gamers that dont play demanding games at all.
 

Shivansps

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GPU detection work horrible on every program ive know if multiple GPU are installed on the system. Steam survey is one of them. I have a GT520, HD5850 and HD3000, the survey sometimes detects the HD3000, other the GT520, other the HD5850... and it just report one.

Also almost all Intel notebooks will be reporting their IGPs, even the one that has nvidia dgpus...

Intel has almost 75% of cpu share on Steam 8% in HD3000/4000 is the least you can expect. And most of it are notebooks for sure.
 

Rvenger

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Two most popular "video cards" on the Steam Hardware Survey:

Intel HD Graphics 3000
4.26%


Intel HD Graphics 4000
3.64%

I am surprised that almost 8% of users are not opting for more.


Unless I have IGPU disabled in bios, mine shows as integrated graphics.
 

SPBHM

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well, their detection was always accurate for me, but I'm only using 1 GPU, the IGP is disabled.

still, I'm not surprised about people playing games with Intel IGPs, they are not as bad as the GMA 950 used to be and can run many or most current games with lowered settings, and many people only use steam for "TF2" or Counter Strike.
 

Concillian

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Two most popular "video cards" on the Steam Hardware Survey:

Intel HD Graphics 3000
4.26%


Intel HD Graphics 4000
3.64%

I am surprised that almost 8% of users are not opting for more.

You do what you can with what you got. When I go on a business trip, I use my work SB laptop to play old games on steam like Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition or Rome: Total War in the hotel at night. It's not like games like that need massive power. Plays fine.

Not everyone on steam is playing the latest games at the highest res.
 
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Maximilian

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I played LoL on a 4500MHD. Managed ~30fps on the lowest settings and lowest res. HD3000/4000 would have been soo much better.
 

cbn

Lifer
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You do what you can with what you got. When I go on a business trip, I use my work SB laptop to play old games on steam like Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition or Rome: Total War in the hotel at night. It's not like games like that need massive power. Plays fine.

Not everyone on steam is playing the latest games at the highest res.

That makes sense. There is also a lot of Indie games on Steam and those definitely don't need much power either.
 

cbn

Lifer
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Steam is x86 only.

If the following quote from this article is actually true then there should be an ARM version of Steam OS also. (re: There is already an ARM based version of Ubuntu 12.04)

Although not confirmed by Valve, we’ve been told that Steam OS is based on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

Now how much traction ARM gains for native (rather than purely streaming) gaming remains to be seen. One advantage (as I see it) ARM has over x86 is a lower cost of entry for the "complete desktop" devices (eg, ARM TV sticks), but then the amount of primary storage they have is extremely low (for obvious reasons). However, with that said, I did find some indie games in the steam linux x86 library that actually require only 100MB or less of primary storage. Maybe some of these and others(with larger storage requirements) will be converted to run on ARM.
 

Concillian

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That makes sense. There is also a lot of Indie games on Steam and those definitely don't need much power either.

Yep, I have a friend who buys every humble indie bundle. Keeps him entertained forever on a very low spec computer. There are some pretty good games that don't require cutting edge hardware.
 

Shivansps

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If the following quote from this article is actually true then there should be an ARM version of Steam OS also. (re: There is already an ARM based version of Ubuntu 12.04)



Now how much traction ARM gains for native (rather than purely streaming) gaming remains to be seen. One advantage (as I see it) ARM has over x86 is a lower cost of entry for the "complete desktop" devices (eg, ARM TV sticks), but then the amount of primary storage they have is extremely low (for obvious reasons). However, with that said, I did find some indie games in the steam linux x86 library that actually require only 100MB or less of primary storage. Maybe some of these and others(with larger storage requirements) will be converted to run on ARM.

nothing will be converted to run on arm, just forget it, its not only the CPU, its using OpenGL ES too, not gona happen.

If there is a arm steamos will be streaming only.
 

cbn

Lifer
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nothing will be converted to run on arm, just forget it, its not only the CPU, its using OpenGL ES too, not gona happen.

If there is a arm steamos will be streaming only.

I see the current crop of Mali-400 GPUs (commonly used in ARM TV sticks) are not OpenGL 3.x/4.x compatible according to Wikipedia (only OpenGL ES 2.0 like you have pointed out)---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)

The API support for Mali-600 GPUs increases, but still no OpenGL 3/x/4.x

On the Power VR side, according to Wikipedia, only Series 6 (Rogue) is Open GL 3.x/4.x compatible, but series 5 and below is not ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

P.S. I am assumimg OpenGL 3.x/4.x is the API needed to port the x86 games to ARM on Linux.
 

cbn

Lifer
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Yep, I have a friend who buys every humble indie bundle. Keeps him entertained forever on a very low spec computer. There are some pretty good games that don't require cutting edge hardware.

I don't have much experience with indie games, but one game I still play today is the original Medieval Total War (from 2002). I actually think this game better than some of the newer series and sequels.

Another really fun, but old game I just thought of recently is Age of Empires II. I don't play this one anymore, but I remember having a good time with it back in the day on my Intel Pentium III. I must not be alone in this opinion either because earlier this year Steam brought it back as Age of Empires II HD edition ---> http://store.steampowered.com/app/221380/.

So I agree there are games out there have great gameplay even though the hardware requirements are very low.
 

aigomorla

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I need to logon steam on my server so i can get credit for having an AllYourBaseAreBelongToCPU`
 
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