Though honestly I would rather play BF3 and i'm sure most gamers in general would say similar, twitch shooters get old quick. Everyone does the exact same crap on the same old stale maps every single time despite all the decent user created maps out there.
UT 2003 really was a big mistake because the game play changed dramatically to floaty-dodgeyness. I remember the huge amount of anticipation that circulated in the UT99 communities in the months before UT 2003's release. Then it was released and almost everyone was sorely disappointed. Some people moved on to different games and the result was that UT 2003 damaged the franchise's player base.Also, it's funny how quick UT2k3 got forgotten about as UT2k4 came out soon after, as if 2k3 was a major mistake or something lol.
If you go back and look at what was going on with UT99 in its heyday (2000-2003) there were TONS of populated servers offering custom maps and mods. Also, one of the great things about UT99 is that it was not a disposable shooter game--it was less of a game and more of an online cybersport; it felt athletic if you played it right. For example, there were competitive clan matches and 5-on-5 organized capture-the-flag matches where people used voice comm and played assigned positions--it felt more like an athletic cybersport than a disposable FPS in the same way that playing basketball or football doesn't really get boring. In fact, there are some hardcore UT99 players who still play CTF PUG matches to this day, because it was just so much fun. There are still tournaments: http://www.prounreal.org/mlut/
UT 2003 really was a big mistake because the game play changed dramatically to floaty-dodgeyness. I remember the huge amount of anticipation that circulated in the UT99 communities in the months before UT 2003's release. Then it was released and almost everyone was sorely disappointed. Some people moved on to different games and the result was that UT 2003 damaged the franchise's player base.
UT 2004 was a great game in its own right, but not for the reasons UT99 was a great game. UT 2004 was good for the Onslaught game mod and Invasion, but it sucked for on-foot games (CTF, Domination, Bombing Run) because of the hit-scan-based floaty-dodgeyness which is why you can still find populated Onslaught and Invasion servers but not CTF, Domination, or Bombing Run. Consequently UT 2004 had far, far less clan match activity and overall player counts than UT99.
I honestly wonder if you have ever played UT2k4. 'floaty dodgeyness' exists in no degree in this game, you don't float when you jump... I continue to see your posts and it hurts my brain when I read them.
Reading comprehension fail? He said 2k3 had floatiness...and I agree with that.
2k4 more or less fixed it.
UT 2004 had the dodge-jump. That's what I was referring to. It's good for Onslaught but not so good for on-foot games.
I think today's gamers don't care about the technical merits of a game and just want realistic modern day weapons in the game. If it doesn't have an M4 it's not cool attitude.
"cool" or not, I know I'd rather play a modern day war game over any sci fi when it comes to MP because it's at least something plausible and real in that sense.
I also consider things like teamwork, plan of attack, stealth...etc to be more mentally engaging in terms of tactics than dodges and bunny hopping. Call that a skill if you wish, so is playing the piano but not very satisfying or require any real thinking outside of just memory muscle response and reacting imo.
I'm trying to 'respect your opinion' but it's just wrong... 2x jump, dodge jump, combinations of, and adding in shield cannon jumping allowed for more control and greater incorporation of the Z-axis than any shooter before or after it.
On another topic, what FPS games are you UT fans playing nowadays (now that UT is pretty much dead)?
A month ago I got into Planetside 2 and I'm really enjoying it.
"cool" or not, I know I'd rather play a modern day war game over any sci fi when it comes to MP because it's at least something plausible and real in that sense.
I also consider things like teamwork, plan of attack, stealth...etc to be more mentally engaging in terms of tactics than dodges and bunny hopping. Call that a skill if you wish, so is playing the piano but not very satisfying or require any real thinking outside of just memory muscle response and reacting imo.
what am I reading
most modern war shooters don't really have any tactics or strategies. they're the cancer of shooter genre.
also, having awesome movement options in no way reduces the tactical scope of the game. try tribes I mentioned in the previous post - teamplay is absolutely necessary in competitive games, just as much as being able to make the most of tribes movement scheme (which, arguably, can be seen as more complex (knowing terrain, skiing, planning for regen before disc (rocket) jumps) or less complex (you can jet or you can ski, what's it gonna be? vs side-dodges, walljumps and double jumps in various combinations of ut2k4) than ut2k4). I don't know of a "war" shooter that holds a candle to that combination.