New US Army rifle uses radio controlled bullets..

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Rubycon

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If I recall correctly, the round is programmed just as it leaves the weapon. It is fire and forget, not fire and program along the way as implied in the article and OP.

The CMD could be corrupted on the weapon itself. The operator is tricked into believing its correct.
 

Zebo

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is it really radio controlled or is it a timed fuse?

Both. Radio sends signal to round in firing chamber which sets timer based on distance, altitude, user mods and whatnot. Once it's fired though it's exploding with time loaded.
 

Zebo

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The CMD could be corrupted on the weapon itself. The operator is tricked into believing its correct.

Meh good luck.... however I know who Taliban is targeting first though in the Squad.
 

Nintendesert

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There are no rules against using large caliber rounds or grenade launchers against individuals. It's an urban legend that gets retold over and over again.

The standard is proportionality.
 

datalink7

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If this was ever used to shoot someone directly, it seems it might be illegal under the Hague Convention or the St. Petersburg Declaration, depending on the weight of the projectile.

Well, reading further:

The nations represented were Austria-Hungary, Bavaria, Belgium, Denmark, France, Great Britain (representing the British Empire), Greece, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal, the North German Confederation (i.e., Greater Prussia), Russia, Sweden and Norway, Switzerland, the Ottoman Empire, and Württemberg.[1] The United States, not considered a major power at the time, was not invited, took no part in the convention, and has never acceded to it.
 

spidey07

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There are no rules against using large caliber rounds or grenade launchers against individuals. It's an urban legend that gets retold over and over again.

The standard is proportionality.

Yep. This is nothing more than a proximity/anti-personnel grenade like a M203 but you can detonate it anywhere. Very cool tech. The range is VERY impressive.
 

Nintendesert

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It's extremely exciting technology and something we can see having great use here, the ability to airburst a cannon round like this above the enemy hiding behind a wall, or on a rooftop or in a cave, a hole, a ditch etc. really is game changing.

It almost completely removes the ability of the enemy to use any sort of cover. Considering how much gets pumped into aviation, it's nice to see some new tech for the infantry side.
 

spidey07

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Enemy behind bunker/wall? Laser the wall, dial in detonation 2 meters behind wall, aim above wall calculating for drop.

Boom.
 

Zebo

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There are no rules against using large caliber rounds or grenade launchers against individuals. It's an urban legend that gets retold over and over again.

The standard is proportionality.

You won't win with that or current ROEs but hey nice tech.
 

Zebo

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If you like wasting men money and material. Then sure. I'd target women and children like in Dresden instead of avoid them. Don't feel like doing that? maybe war not a good idea.
 
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If you like wasting men money and material. Then sure. I'd target women and children like in Dresden instead of avoid them. Don't feel like doing that? maybe war not a good idea.

Dresden wasn't half as bad as you think it was.

It was upped so badly because of the later nuclear attacks to show that conventional weapons caused more casualties, everyone outside of the US knows that already and everyone also knows that civ casulties have been higher elsewhere since Dresden.

The problem with killing family members but not entire families is that you create more enemies for ground troops to fight than you kill when you bomb them, that's been a real problem in Iraq, the greatest converters to terrorism among the genpop have been us, for two reasons. 1. We really had no idea what to bomb so we bombed the shit out of here and there and 2. We didn't lay the groundwork properly at initial invasion.
 

Zebo

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Dresden wasn't half as bad as you think it was.

It was upped so badly because of the later nuclear attacks to show that conventional weapons caused more casualties, everyone outside of the US knows that already and everyone also knows that civ casulties have been higher elsewhere since Dresden.

The problem with killing family members but not entire families is that you create more enemies for ground troops to fight than you kill when you bomb them, that's been a real problem in Iraq, the greatest converters to terrorism among the genpop have been us, for two reasons. 1. We really had no idea what to bomb so we bombed the shit out of here and there and 2. We didn't lay the groundwork properly at initial invasion.
Throw away everything written in last 50 years of fail. Wars are won when people have no faith in their own militants to protect them. Every war was the same, US civil, Second Boer war and WW2 prime example. The Germans had no problem sending off 7 million German boys to die it was only when you hit their enablers, the people, they surrendered.

You'll never prevent stuff like this with that weapon in OP or without changing hearts and minds (and I'm not talking about building schools either)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/world/asia/30afghan.html?ref=world

You're 100% right, A few civilian casualties is counter productive, making them fear extinction is not.
 
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AMCRambler

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How long before the Soviets or the Chinese crack the radio encryption and put it into a garage door opener remote that will detonate the ordinance in the gun while our soldiers are holding it? This seems like a bad idea to me.
 
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Throw away everything written in last 50 years of fail. Wars are won when people have no faith in their own militants to protect them. Every war was the same, US civil, Second Boer war and WW2 prime example. The Germans had no problem sending off 7 million German boys to die it was only when you hit their enablers, the people, they surrendered.

You'll never prevent stuff like this with that weapon in OP or without changing hearts and minds (and I'm not talking about building schools either)
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/30/world/asia/30afghan.html?ref=world

You're 100% right, A few civilian casualties is counter productive, making them fear extinction is not.

No, you are wrong, they don't fear death, they fear the death of their loved ones, just like you and me would rather die than see our loved ones die, they are the same, that makes the fatalist in them scared shitless of a lot of things but if you think that war is one of them, you need to think again.

What they fear is mostly that someone will take over and take their land away, leaving them to starve to death, this is their reality, not yours, they don't fear bombings at all, they don't really give a shit about it either way to be honest except when it kills cattle, they really don't like that.

We needed the med that were in Afghanistan to make a difference to the genpop, to keep the Taliban and have teams like mine to hunt them, target them and call in the air support, if they had let us do that then we could have isolated the war from the genpop and all the fucking billions that we have spent to do damage control since could have been used to help them, they would have taken the help too, at that point there was some hope and actually yes, even welcoming for the ones that helped them.

See this isn't fucking hard, they need security to obtain anything else, once the area is secured you can start having a life, if you live your life being robbed every fucking day you won't have much of a life, will you? It's not fucking rocket science...

I'm sorry that i'm going off but it's not on you really, it's just that i'm tired of the mistunderstanding that this war could ever be won after we just said "here Talibans, we are going to undo everything we did and let you spread, cover and convert until there can be no end".

At this point, this effort is pointless, a long time ago in an exchange with someone on here regarding a blackwater shooting civilians incident i stated that the best you can do is to retreat, reasses, regroup and i think that goes for the entire WOT as it is today, get us the fuck out of here right now and move in as if it was the first day of the invasion in a couple of years, keep the strategies that worked and this time, don't be retarded and remove all troops and air support when we have the enemy contained...
 
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