New York conducts undercover sting at Arizona gun show

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Hayabusa Rider

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Bloomberg is such lying POS as evidenced by his statement that a waiting period isn't required. Bullshit.

For Hizzoner the Douche, our state borders on the state with the most liberal handgun laws in the country, Vermont, which has a lower crime rate than his Pos fantasy land.

Yet another lying self serving turd.
 

xj0hnx

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You know how conservatives say that if you ban guns, only criminals will have guns? That's true, and you know where they would get them? The same place criminals currently get their guns, gun shows where there are no background checks.

Maybe you can come up with a statistic that proves that criminals are buying guns at gun shows in a quantity that matters.
 

xj0hnx

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I'm not sure what fascination your Founding Fathers had with Bears, but the Constitution clearly doesn't say anything about Guns.

Are you trying to be purposefully obtuse, or do you really think that?
 

Scotteq

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Drift3r

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Guns are evil. Calling 911 is the only way to defend yourself. Just ask the Detroit Police department.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfeixftLpIA

P.S.. Gosh, I guess he didn't need a 30 round magazine (assailant used a shotgun) with a handgun like the nutcase in Arizona to take on trained and armed police officers.
 
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Mursilis

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dealer to person sale = background check

person to person sale = no background check

In most states, a private person may sell a firearm to another person and without a background check.

Been to a gun show lately? There are usually lots of people walking around the show with a "for sale" sign on their firearm, no background check needed.

Even if the government stopped private person-to-person sales at gun shows, have you read the paper lately? I can pick up a local newspaper and see at least a dozen people trying to sale their firearms.

QFT, especially the bolded part. This factual information needs to be in every gun thread, so maybe people can finally stop putting out lies and misinformation. I've bought handguns in sporting goods stores, at gun shows, and even in a private home, but because I was dealing with licensed, law abiding dealers each time, I completed the background check paperwork and a background check was performed. It doesn't matter where the sale takes place; if you're buying from a licensed dealer, there's going to be a background check.
 

xj0hnx

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Scotteq

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Not in America, the police aren't there to protect you apparently!


For right or wrong, the common perception is that the Police do for people what Sanitation workers do for garbage: Clean Up the mess sometime in the hours/days after the fact, so everyone else doesn't have to see/smell it laying in the gutters...
 

xj0hnx

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Not in America, the police aren't there to protect you apparently!

You may be making whatever point you think your making in a sarcastic way, but the saying "when seconds count, the police are only minutes away" is very real. If someone breaks into your house, the police are not going to save you, they don't just beam themselves to crime scenes.
 

crownjules

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Bloomberg is such lying POS as evidenced by his statement that a waiting period isn't required. Bullshit.

For Hizzoner the Douche, our state borders on the state with the most liberal handgun laws in the country, Vermont, which has a lower crime rate than his Pos fantasy land.

Yet another lying self serving turd.

Might want to look at Vermont's population density, racial composition, etc. first before declaring it's solely their gun laws that make them a low crime state.
 

HAL9000

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For right or wrong, the common perception is that the Police do for people what Sanitation workers do for garbage: Clean Up the mess sometime in the hours/days after the fact, so everyone else doesn't have to see/smell it laying in the gutters...

That's really unfortunate.
 

spidey07

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QFT, especially the bolded part. This factual information needs to be in every gun thread, so maybe people can finally stop putting out lies and misinformation. I've bought handguns in sporting goods stores, at gun shows, and even in a private home, but because I was dealing with licensed, law abiding dealers each time, I completed the background check paperwork and a background check was performed. It doesn't matter where the sale takes place; if you're buying from a licensed dealer, there's going to be a background check.

That's why I wanted those spouting off nonsense to describe the laws because they seem to think you can just go to any gun show and buy a weapon from a booth/dealer without a background check.
 

Texashiker

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Not in America, the police aren't there to protect you apparently!

Sometimes the police do not get there in time

Houston store owner kills 3 would-be robbers

Three robbers enter the store, pull out their weapons, grab the wife and start to take her into a backroom.

The husband does what any man who loves his wife would do, he pulls his own weapon and kills all three robbers.

Lethal force stops repeat offenders 100% of the time.
 

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The real problem is that after a nut job Arizonian Minute Man shot a Jewish Congresswoman in the back of the head, the state of Arizona is still selling guns to any sun baked dope no questions asked.

When your typical Minute Man isn't fantasizing about overthrowing the government, they are bartering guns to Mexicans for their drugs. Or they just sell to their fellow loons. In what world does a loon sell another loon a gun and get to call it commerce?
 

HAL9000

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Sometimes the police do not get there in time

Houston store owner kills 3 would-be robbers

Three robbers enter the store, pull out their weapons, grab the wife and start to take her into a backroom.

The husband does what any man who loves his wife would do, he pulls his own weapon and kills all three robbers.

Lethal force stops repeat offenders 100% of the time.

Same here, doesn't mean they aren't supposed to protect you it just means sometimes they can't.
 

Drift3r

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Not in America, the police aren't there to protect you apparently!

If the police were legally obligated to protect individuals in the US then the police would be financially responsible for not doing so and police officers, police departments and local governments would go bankrupt over night dealing all the lawsuits filed by victims of crime. Or worse go bankrupt trying to provide enough officers to "stop ALL crime, All the time" by employing a huge massive army of police officers and staff to meet such an unobtainable obligation.
 
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