New York conducts undercover sting at Arizona gun show

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Lifer
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If the police were legally obligated to protect individuals in the US then the police would be financially responsible for not doing so and police officers, police departments and local governments would go bankrupt over night dealing all the lawsuits filed by victims of crime. Or worse go bankrupt trying to provide enough officers to "stop ALL crime, All the time" by employing a huge massive army of police officers and staff to meet such an unobtainable obligation.

Oh yeah, suing. That doesn't really happen over here that often, and the UK are not financially responsible for that over here. It's crazy over there.
 

Texashiker

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The real problem is that after a nut job Arizonian Minute Man shot a Jewish Congresswoman in the back of the head, the state of Arizona is still selling guns to any sun baked dope no questions asked.

When your typical Minute Man isn't fantasizing about overthrowing the government, they are bartering guns to Mexicans for their drugs. Or they just sell to their fellow loons. In what world does a loon sell another loon a gun and get to call it commerce?

Wow,,,, just wow, there is so much fail in that post, it can not even be measured by NASA.

Insert facepalm image here.
 

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Wait, so people from new york went on a "sting" operation and secretly video taped people who were actually not in violation of any laws, in another state? Man if I lived in New York I'd be pissed my city government spent money on this...this is retarded. No I take that back, even most retards aren't this stupid.
 

spidey07

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There's rumblings on Foxnews that Arizona is going to subpoena and charge Bloomberg because of the straw purchases. That's a no-no.
 

xj0hnx

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The real problem is that after a nut job Arizonian Minute Man shot a Jewish Congresswoman in the back of the head, the state of Arizona is still selling guns to any sun baked dope no questions asked.

When your typical Minute Man isn't fantasizing about overthrowing the government, they are bartering guns to Mexicans for their drugs. Or they just sell to their fellow loons. In what world does a loon sell another loon a gun and get to call it commerce?

You've got Anarchist420 beat my miles for being a quack. As Texashiker pointed out there is more fail in you post than you can shake a stick at.
 

xj0hnx

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Wait, so people from new york went on a "sting" operation and secretly video taped people who were actually not in violation of any laws, in another state? Man if I lived in New York I'd be pissed my city government spent money on this...this is retarded. No I take that back, even most retards aren't this stupid.

The mentally handicapped have an excuse, well Bloomberg does to, there's too much emotional capital to be exploited in AZ right now to let it just sit there.

There's rumblings on Foxnews that Arizona is going to subpoena and charge Bloomberg because of the straw purchases. That's a no-no.

That would be too sweet for words.
 

Unheard

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There's rumblings on Foxnews that Arizona is going to subpoena and charge Bloomberg because of the straw purchases. That's a no-no.

That would be so wonderful. He did that shit in TN a while back, and it was the same story. He bought handguns from "dealers" (individuals, not FFL folks), and claimed oh look no background check. Someone needs to background check him in the head.
 

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The real problem is that after a nut job Arizonian Minute Man shot a Jewish Congresswoman in the back of the head, the state of Arizona is still selling guns to any sun baked dope no questions asked.

When your typical Minute Man isn't fantasizing about overthrowing the government, they are bartering guns to Mexicans for their drugs. Or they just sell to their fellow loons. In what world does a loon sell another loon a gun and get to call it commerce?

Well you've certainly insured that you've lost all creditability in this thread. Considered yourself irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Now go on outside and play with your friends while the adults have their discussion.
 

Unheard

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Well you've certainly insured that you've lost all creditability in this thread. Considered yourself irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Now go on outside and play with your friends while the adults have their discussion.

Couldn't of said it better myself.
 

xj0hnx

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That would be so wonderful. He did that shit in TN a while back, and it was the same story. He bought handguns from "dealers" (individuals, not FFL folks), and claimed oh look no background check. Someone needs to background check him in the head.

Amazing how they break the law to show that laws aren't being followed, oh, but wait, the laws were followed ..so it's only Bloomberg and his gaggle of Fraggles that broke the law. Justice for these crimes should be swift, and without mercy.
 
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Texashiker

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There's rumblings on Foxnews that Arizona is going to subpoena and charge Bloomberg because of the straw purchases. That's a no-no.

If someone from New York went to Arizona, purchased a handgun and brought it back to New York, they certainly need to be punished to the fullest extend of the law - regardless of who it is.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Might want to look at Vermont's population density, racial composition, etc. first before declaring it's solely their gun laws that make them a low crime state.

Don't have to. I've lived in both states. Regardless, my point wasn't that Vts crime rate was low because of gun ownership but in spite of it and that a far more likely POE would through the VT/NY border than AZ.

He picked them not because of a safety issue but to shine the light on himself.
 

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When you guys are done beating off to the shit Megan Kelly says on Fox News, lets just see how this plays out. But in the meantime don't forget to ask yourself if Bloomberg's boys get in trouble for buying guns, don't the sellers of said guns get in trouble as well? What you don't think they duped the sellers huh?

Here's how it played out.

Bloomberg Fake Minute Man #1 - "Hey can I get a gun, fucking Obama lol..." Minute Man seller "LOL No problem bud, got any identification?" Fake Minute Man, "What?! You a Jew?" Minute Man seller, "No! Heres your gun!"
 

Schadenfroh

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But in the meantime don't forget to ask yourself if Bloomberg's boys get in trouble for buying guns, don't the sellers of said guns get in trouble as well?
I am not sure if you can use evidence obtained illegally to prosecute the sellers for what offensives they may or may not have committed...

There's rumblings on Foxnews that Arizona is going to subpoena and charge Bloomberg because of the straw purchases. That's a no-no.
That would be awesome.
 

actuarial

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Any government that does not allow / or restricts the right of firearms ownership, does not a free country make.

I'll take Canadian freedoms over American freedoms any day.

And what do you say about the fact that you already restrict the right of firearm ownership?
 

Unheard

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I'll take Canadian freedoms over American freedoms any day.

And what do you say about the fact that you already restrict the right of firearm ownership?

Be careful on how many characters you use in your post. Wouldn't want to hit your internet cap.
 

xj0hnx

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When you guys are done beating off to the shit Megan Kelly says on Fox News, lets just see how this plays out. But in the meantime don't forget to ask yourself if Bloomberg's boys get in trouble for buying guns, don't the sellers of said guns get in trouble as well? What you don't think they duped the sellers huh?

Nope, not if they were private sellers selling their personal firearms at the gunshow. Only FFL holders can run NICS background check, and Bloombergs boyZ probably looked around until they found an individual they knew wasn't going to run a check and bought from them instead of trying from the many licensed FLL holders that do run background checks. The rest of your post is fucking idiotic beyond words, you are a bigot.

And what do you say about the fact that you already restrict the right of firearm ownership?

We only restrict firearm ownership to those that have proven they are not responsible enough to exercise that right. Any state that tries to ban firearms needs to have their laws struck down, and the 1936 NFA, the Gun Control Act of 1968, and the 1986 FOPA need to all be repealed.
 

actuarial

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We only restrict firearm ownership to those that have proven they are not responsible enough to exercise that right. Any state that tries to ban firearms needs to have their laws struck down, and the 1936 NFA, the Gun Control Act of 1968, and the 1986 FOPA need to all be repealed.

Sounds like you're contradicting yourself, otherwise why would laws need to be repealed?
 

Throckmorton

Lifer
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If someone from New York went to Arizona, purchased a handgun and brought it back to New York, they certainly need to be punished to the fullest extend of the law - regardless of who it is.


Let me get this straight. You are saying the right to bear arms doesn't apply if you cross state lines within this great nation?

Is being armed a right, or is it not a right? I don't get how a right can be considered void based on state lines.

What next, no free speech if you're talking to someone in another state?

No ownership of property in another state?

The government can ban you from going to church in another state?
 

xj0hnx

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Sounds like you're contradicting yourself, otherwise why would laws need to be repealed?

It only sounds like a contradiction to you because you are ignorant. None of the laws I mentioned keep people from buying a firearm if they fit the criteria, however the NFA of 1934 was pretty much a de facto ban as it placed a $200 tax on a whole range of firearms which was a lot more than you average Joe in 1934 had to buy a gun. The Gun Control Act of 1968 is the one that laid down the prohibited persons criteria, set age limits, ending mail order firearms, created the FFL system, and a whole slew of other things, the parts that were most damaging were the importation restrictions. While most generally agree with the law for the most part, there were a lot of items stuck into the bill that equated to a de facto ban. The FOPA of 1986 did a couple of good things, but did WAY more harm than good in the give an inch, they take a mile scale. It was also the bill that democrat Rangel deceitfully passed the Hughes Amendment even though it was struck down by record vote ...on video.

So no, it isn't a contradiction in any sense of the word to want harmful laws repealed, in whole or in part. The NFA of 1934 should be completely repealed, and the GCA '68, and FOPA '86 need to be heavily amended.
 
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