New York to Get Pummeled by Huge Hurricane. Do You Feel Bad for Them?

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dwell

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Oh the destruction!!! I was just out walking the dog and saw so many leaves on the ground. Leaves!!! Even a couple of sticks!!! Plus, get this, a beer bottle in the middle of the sidewalk. And the puddles, oh the puddles. Oh the huge manatee!!!
 

amdhunter

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Oh the destruction!!! I was just out walking the dog and saw so many leaves on the ground. Leaves!!! Even a couple of sticks!!! Plus, get this, a beer bottle in the middle of the sidewalk. And the puddles, oh the puddles. Oh the huge manatee!!!

Same thing that I thought lol.

EDIT: There weren't any leaves even.
 
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dwell

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Exactly. I didn't mean to be such a dick about it yesterday but I don't think people outside the city understand the kind of frenzy and panic the media created over this. I was in the supermarket yesterday and the shelves were picked clean and the line was literally out the door. The media made it seem like the poster for the movie 2012 was about to come true where NYC was about to be buried by a tidal wave.

Look outside now and it's like, "really"?
 

LegendKiller

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Mar 5, 2001
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Exactly. I didn't mean to be such a dick about it yesterday but I don't think people outside the city understand the kind of frenzy and panic the media created over this. I was in the supermarket yesterday and the shelves were picked clean and the line was literally out the door. The media made it seem like the poster for the movie 2012 was about to come true where NYC was about to be buried by a tidal wave.

Look outside now and it's like, "really"?

What if it had been far worse?

I saw a lot of fucking morons wandering around Orlando in Charley's wake looking for food, water, and gas. About 80% of gas stations were gone. That was a C1+ when it hit.

Easy to look in hindsight and think nothing happened. Reality is, it could have easily have been worse.
 

happy medium

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Jun 8, 2003
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nasty rain and wind here in bucks. screw nyc, philly is gettin hit hard

Seeing im from Philly/southern bucks , I can say with confidence , "you are are not telling the truth" We recieved 2 hours of heavy rain from 1030pm till 1230am, and minor winds, mabe 40mph.

The usual places flooded just like any other rain storm.
 

darkxshade

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Now that this is over with, I have no fuckin clue what to do for the day. Everything is closed, there's nothing on tv but news anchors still preaching about the end of the world. And it's rather calm outside... only thing I can think of is a long walk around the city, see what "damages" Irene did. :\
 

Wreckem

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I rest my case. There's just too many narrow minded idiots in this thread. They're like teenagers to their parents--they have an answer for everything. If ya hate us, ya hate us. Fine. However, we're about to deal with the first hurricane to directly hit NYC since 1821. You think we're prepared for this? We're as prepared as we're going to get, which isn't much compared to those of you who live in the south who have experienced hurricanes before. Not to mention, we're dealing with tornadoes as well.

I guess NYC is still waiting for a hurricane to directly hit it as this was a tropical storm by time it got to NY.

It was overhyped. Whatever forcaster thought it would intensify to a cat 4 that far up the atlantic needs to be fired. Realistically there was never any chance it was going to make landfall anywhere as a Cat 3 or 4.
 

Wreckem

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What if it had been far worse?

I saw a lot of fucking morons wandering around Orlando in Charley's wake looking for food, water, and gas. About 80% of gas stations were gone. That was a C1+ when it hit.

Easy to look in hindsight and think nothing happened. Reality is, it could have easily have been worse.

Charley was a Cat 4 when it made landfall. At the time it was the strongest hurricane to hit the US since Andrew. People were unprepared because the track had it going elsewhere and it turned sharply and hit where it did.

Irene was officially a Cat 1 when it made landfall in NC.

People are just idiots though. 10 people died from Charley. 12 people have died from Irene.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Charley was a Cat 4 when it made landfall. At the time it was the strongest hurricane to hit the US since Andrew. People were unprepared because the track had it going elsewhere and it turned sharply and hit where it did.

Irene was officially a Cat 1 when it made landfall in NC.

People are just idiots though. 10 people died from Charley. 12 people have died from Irene.
Have 12 people actually died from Irene? I think if anyone has a deadly heart attack in that time span they are like... yep... statistic of the hurricane.
 

Nintendesert

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I'm tired of hearing about the whiney and melodramatic New Yorkers period. Ooo some rain!! OMG !!!
 

moshquerade

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I'm tired of hearing about the whiney and melodramatic New Yorkers period. Ooo some rain!! OMG !!!
it's the media and the weather people who are being dramatic. new yorkers are pissed they were ordered to and had to be displaced more than anything.

and no kidding, this is amounting to some rain, some high tides, some flooding. whoop.
 

Wreckem

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Have 12 people actually died from Irene? I think if anyone has a deadly heart attack in that time span they are like... yep... statistic of the hurricane.

It is the number the news is using. I am not sure how the determine it was Irene related.
 

moshquerade

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It is the number the news is using. I am not sure how the determine it was Irene related.
Yeh, i know that is the number the media came up with. A tree fell into a house and killed an 11 year old - definitely a result of this storm, but I would bet all "12" of these deaths aren't that cut and dry a result of the storm.
I believe one was a car accident, and mention of a dwi, so no, that one doesn't really count.
 

Bignate603

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I guess NYC is still waiting for a hurricane to directly hit it as this was a tropical storm by time it got to NY.

It was overhyped. Whatever forcaster thought it would intensify to a cat 4 that far up the atlantic needs to be fired. Realistically there was never any chance it was going to make landfall anywhere as a Cat 3 or 4.

So you can predict hurricanes, which have been notoriously hard to predict? You might want to start a career as a weather forecaster, you'd make millions.

This isn't the fault of the forecasters, this is the fault of the media outlets. The hurricane forecasters give information showing the range its path might follow and a range of strengths it could be at each point along the way. The media tends to grab the worst possible combinations of those and makes it sound like its guaranteed that the world is going to end tomorrow rather than presenting like they should, talking about the different possibilities and their likelihood of occurring.

That being said though, it's better for people to freak out and be over prepared than be complacent and be under prepared. Like I said before, I was in New Orleans right up until a day before Katrina and many people weren't taking it seriously. They thought it was going to be just like all the other hurricanes before that didn't amount to much. With these storms they often aren't that bad but there's not a good way to tell how bad its going to be until it is too late to prepare.
 

moshquerade

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So you can predict hurricanes, which have been notoriously hard to predict? You might want to start a career as a weather forecaster, you'd make millions.

This isn't the fault of the forecasters, this is the fault of the media outlets. The hurricane forecasters give information showing the range its path might follow and a range of strengths it could be at each point along the way. The media tends to grab the worst possible combinations of those and makes it sound like its guaranteed that the world is going to end tomorrow rather than presenting like they should, talking about the different possibilities and their likelihood of occurring.

That being said though, it's better for people to freak out and be over prepared than be complacent and be under prepared. Like I said before, I was in New Orleans right up until a day before Katrina and many people weren't taking it seriously. They thought it was going to be just like all the other hurricanes before that didn't amount to much. With these storms they often aren't that bad but there's not a good way to tell how bad its going to be until it is too late to prepare.
The only problem I see with that is if there is hype like this and it ends up being unfounded that people are going to become numb to the warnings and not heed them as much in the future.
 

KaOTiK

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It's funny reading this thread about the media outlets. Down here in FL, they always show it as it is and say how it can change without notice, then they put in there is always the chance it will miss us! lol

Sounds like from up there it is all, run for the hills we are all going to die type of crap on the news haha.
 

mugs

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Yeh, i know that is the number the media came up with. A tree fell into a house and killed an 11 year old - definitely a result of this storm, but I would bet all "12" of these deaths aren't that cut and dry a result of the storm.
I believe one was a car accident, and mention of a dwi, so no, that one doesn't really count.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/28/hurricane-irene-deaths_n_939421.html

14 deaths, 4 are borderline -
- Two people died in the ocean in Florida
- Car accident at intersection where traffic light was knocked out
- Guy hit water and went off the road

The others all seem legit to me. Only two of them were north of Maryland.

I don't really get all of the complaining about the media "overhyping" this. Stop watching! I was able to get all of the information I needed about the hurricane without ever watching the weather channel, the local news or any of the 24 hour news channels. I wasn't exposed to any "hype," just the facts.

Seems to me that the government acted reasonably. There was a lot of flooding. People may have been inconvenienced by having to evacuate, but at least we don't have emergency workers having to rescue a bunch of dumbasses.
 

Lurknomore

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Oh the destruction!!! I was just out walking the dog and saw so many leaves on the ground. Leaves!!! Even a couple of sticks!!! Plus, get this, a beer bottle in the middle of the sidewalk. And the puddles, oh the puddles. Oh the huge manatee!!!

What about us who have to deal with 2inch thick branches and sticks strewn everywhere.
Who will help us Bloomberg?

I saw a mild sway in the trees just now...

Pray for us people-first the quake, now this.
 

LegendKiller

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I guess NYC is still waiting for a hurricane to directly hit it as this was a tropical storm by time it got to NY.

It was overhyped. Whatever forcaster thought it would intensify to a cat 4 that far up the atlantic needs to be fired. Realistically there was never any chance it was going to make landfall anywhere as a Cat 3 or 4.

AFAIK it was Cat1 by the time it hit NYC. They did think it would be Cat 4 by the time it hit NC at one point, it's only after NC that the water gets too cold.

What's ridiculous is that the people thinking that this was overblown would have been the ones fucked had we had a Cat2.

Charley was a Cat 4 when it made landfall but it was "only" a Cat 1+ when it hit Orlando. It blew the hell out of that town.
 

moshquerade

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/28/hurricane-irene-deaths_n_939421.html

14 deaths, 4 are borderline -
- Two people died in the ocean in Florida
- Car accident at intersection where traffic light was knocked out
- Guy hit water and went off the road

The others all seem legit to me. Only two of them were north of Maryland.

I don't really get all of the complaining about the media "overhyping" this. Stop watching! I was able to get all of the information I needed about the hurricane without ever watching the weather channel, the local news or any of the 24 hour news channels. I wasn't exposed to any "hype," just the facts.

Seems to me that the government acted reasonably. There was a lot of flooding. People may have been inconvenienced by having to evacuate, but at least we don't have emergency workers having to rescue a bunch of dumbasses.
It was stated that emergency workers WOULD NOT be going in to rescue anyone who stayed behind after evacuation was declared. That they wouldn't risk the lives of emergency workers, law enforcement, to save anyone who didn't heed orders to leave.

That I agree with, it is good protocol.
 

Nintendesert

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AFAIK it was Cat1 by the time it hit NYC. They did think it would be Cat 4 by the time it hit NC at one point, it's only after NC that the water gets too cold.

What's ridiculous is that the people thinking that this was overblown would have been the ones fucked had we had a Cat2.

Charley was a Cat 4 when it made landfall but it was "only" a Cat 1+ when it hit Orlando. It blew the hell out of that town.




Coulda been a Cat2! Coulda also had flying monkey terrorists in the rain and you all not prepared would have been fucked!!
 

KGB

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Charley was a Cat 4 when it made landfall. At the time it was the strongest hurricane to hit the US since Andrew. People were unprepared because the track had it going elsewhere and it turned sharply and hit where it did.

Irene was officially a Cat 1 when it made landfall in NC.

People are just idiots though. 10 people died from Charley. 12 people have died from Irene.

Yes, Charley was strong but SMALL. The path it cut was only slightly wider than a tornado. Anyone caught in the destruction only had to go a few miles in either direction to find 'normality'. After Andrew, you could go 30-40 miles in ANY direction and everything was still smashed to smithereens.
 
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