If the rumored 4C Zen is priced vs 4C Intel products, that'll be clear cut confidence that AMD has a winner.
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I also found this interesting and am feeling hopeful
That made me feel the opposite.
Price/Performance can be achieved by low prices, as AMD has always done with many subpar products.
As far as I know, the architectural work was done by that stage - and Zen was in the process of taping out prior to debugging for bringing it to market.
JK finds that side of it a bit boring, so moved on.
Lol. He did the initial arch, then that's it. You push a new project, and if you achieve no funding, you find an interesting job elsewhere. It's standard.
Lisa Su --- Background in process
Mark Papermaster --- Background in architecture
Between the two of them, they'll be able to ask the right questions.
Over at Intel, the board are entirely process guys or marketeers (except possibly Rob Crooke, although his architecture background appears pretty light). It'd help explain why their tocks are pretty weak at the minute... although I suppose you'd wonder how the ticks are going wrong.
Thats nothing like how it works in the real world (and the ticks reasoning).
Management and exec don't care and don't get involved in ANY of this. They focus on managing the guy below them, stakeholders and PR.
People also keep forgetting that Bulldozer isn't a recent architecture just because it's still on the market, as if it's the fault of its designers that AMD didn't have the cash needed to improve it enough.
We can thank things like the OEM deals, GenuineIntel, the big cost of buying ATI, and the like — not just gripe that an architecture from 2011/2012 hasn't held up well against anything after Sandy.
It didn't hold up to anything 2007, forget after. It was a major regression.
With that process, get Istanbul 8C and it would be trounced.
The CEO and exec board don't make that kind of decisions in such a big company.
Not even upper management chains, yep.
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