At least he is optimistic and get many things right. I dont always agree with him - far from- but very much value his approach and try to learn from it.You once 'calculated' 4GHz base 95W LAUNCH too... With 4.5GHz Turbo. Based on your FO4+Neon claims.
Say so a billion wrongs things and you're bound to get something right.
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The debate between bjt2 and KTE is an interesting one, and instead of jumping on bjt2's defense with excuses of 'optimism,' I'd much rather sit back and watch the reviews flow in and see who was right. bjt2 seems quite knowledgeable on the subject and I for one am interested in seeing whether he's right about 14nm FO4 process and it's potentially high frequency potential in the Zen implementation. (4.5/4.6Ghz, single core turbo).At least he is optimistic and get many things right. I dont always agree with him - far from- but very much value his approach and try to learn from it.
But can you stop whining? You have been whining and making personal attack on bjt for 100 post. Ask yourself when you will stop crying.
You once 'calculated' 4GHz base 95W LAUNCH too... With 4.5GHz Turbo. Based on your FO4+Neon claims.
Say so a billion wrongs things and you're bound to get something right.
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Didn't you support Kanter who claimed a 3.2GHz base clock and "unknown" turbo? At least this bjt guy has balls enough to stick his neck out on turbo speeds.
If 3.6GHz base clock is true then Kanter is at least 12.5% out on his base clocks. If Zen launches at 4.0GHz turbo then bjt will also be 12.5% out on that with his 4.5GHz assumption. It would be smart to assume 3.6GHz is the very least and 4GHz too.
Yeah I'm aware that clocks don't scale that way esp with power, but consider how different the scenario is to what you all thought it would be even only 6 months ago.
It looks vastly superior to what Intel is doing.Looking at the per-core voltage regulation in Ryzen with the LDO, I wonder how Intel's voltage regulation differs from it? It seems that this is a big factor in lowering the power consumption of the Zen cores.
Anyone knows so far if XFR could be turn on-off in BIOS setting? This might sound weird, but this could be important in research works. You would want the clock frequency to be relatively constant while you are benchmarking some new algorithms.
Looking at the per-core voltage regulation in Ryzen with the LDO, I wonder how Intel's voltage regulation differs from it? It seems that this is a big factor in lowering the power consumption of the Zen cores.
Worry about this consumers should not: Zen balanced is throughout, but hidden it must stay until the light of day.The consumers should not worry about these
Intel's FIVR is a ultra high frequency (>= 140MHz) switching converter. AMD's converters are digital low-dropout (dLDO). The consumers should not worry about these, for reasons I will not disclose until the release.
Hey, can you share info if we will be able to overclock Ryzen past the stock TDP. Will motherboards allow disabling TDP throttling?
It would be huge issue if 65W Zen couldn't be OCed past the TDP limit without custom bios
What TDP limits?
Oh... Oh... nevermind then
FX8xxxE was pain in the ass
Not worry about it as in the implementations are equal in results?The Stilt said:Intel's FIVR is a ultra high frequency (>= 140MHz) switching converter. AMD's converters are digital low-dropout (dLDO). The consumers should not worry about these, for reasons I will not disclose until the release.
Yup.Are quotes working for everyone else?
Not worry about it as in the implementations are equal in results?
"Are quotes working for everyone else?"
What's the problem?