Newbie networking problem. Please

[fow99]

Hi all,

I posted this to 'Networking' fourm but got no answer up till now. Please help if you can.


I was desperately trying to connect a desktop(Win2000) and laptop (XP) using a p2p LAN. I setup the hardware, connect the cable. Then I set the IP addresses for the 2 PC: 192.168.2 and 192.168.3 with both subnet mask being 255.255.255.0. But both 2000 and XP reported a 'unplugged cable' ????
I am new to networking so could someone tell me what is possiblly wrong here?

 

[AMDPwred]

I don't know anything about XP but I'll try and help. Are they both on the same workgroup? Also, make sure each PC (user) has access to each PC so you can login and share files/folders/printers and the such.

 

[fow99]

Thanks. Both the PC has been set to be under workgroup 'HOME'.

 

[Narse]

Did you make the cables yourself? Are you using a HUB? if you just have a cable running from one PC to the next you will need a crossover cable

 

[Narse]

Also you are missing a octet in your IP address I assume you mean 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3

 

[DaveK]

Unplugged cable message is definitely a Layer 1 problem. Most likely you have a cable problem like narse77 said. You'll need a crossover cable if you are connecting the NIC to the other NIC directly. If you are using a hub, you'll need two straight through cables.

Crossover pinout
1 --- 3
2 --- 6
3 --- 1
4 --- 4
5 --- 5
6 --- 2
7 --- 7
8 --- 8


Straight Through
1 --- 1
2 --- 2
3 --- 3
4 --- 4
5 --- 5
6 --- 6
7 --- 7
8 --- 8

DaveK

 

[chefmws]

just to agree with the other posters here,
you need to be either using a hub or a crossover cable.

trying to use a standard cat5 patch cable will get you that same message.

 

[fow99]

hmmmm. Looks like I got the wrong cable hey. I did use cat5 cable, unfortuately.

 

[fow99]

How do I get those cable then?
Will cross over cable be able to do 100M?

 

[Zach]

<< hmmmm. Looks like I got the wrong cable hey. I did use cat5 cable, unfortuately. >>



CAT5 is either straight or cross over, so you have the right cable, just the wrong end.



<< How do I get those cable then?
Will cross over cable be able to do 100M? >>



Either get a hub or switch, or buy a different cable. Buy a crossover cable or a 100Mb hub or switch to get 100Mb connections (assuming your NIC's are 100Mb capable), or any old hub if 10Mb is okay.

Switches and straight cross over cables are the best, they can go 100Mb and be full duplex. Hubs are just half duplex, 100Mb or not.

 

[fow99]

<<

CAT5 is either straight or cross over, so you have the right cable, just the wrong end.
>>



Wrong end? Sounds like there is a way to correct this?



<<

Switches and straight cross over cables are the best, they can go 100Mb and be full duplex. Hubs are just half duplex, 100Mb or not. >>



I am only trying to share file between them. Nothing fancier at the moment. So I don't really want to spend that much on this.

 

[nord1899]

Here are some links to Computers4sure which have the products.

Crossover Cables
Switches

The cables range from $4.00 to about $15 depending on the length you need.
The switches can be had in the $50 range (4 port, 10/100 mb switch, perfect for home use).

 

[millsy]

From the IP address you gave they are on different subnets.
192.168.2
192.168.3
subnet mask 255.255.255.0 means the first three octets of the IP address ie) 192.168.3 is on that network and 192.168.2 is on another network. For them to be on same network it would have to be 192.168.3.1 and 192.168.3.2 (see what I mean)
The subnet mask is the key. From that the first 3 octets are Network IDs and last octet is host.

I always remember a standard Cat5 cable (not crossover) is by the anocrym = Only Blondes Give Blowjobs.
This means always start off with the off colour then the full colour,
so Off Orange, Orange, Off Blue, Blue, Off Green, Green, Off Brown, Brown.

 

[fow99]

<<

I always remember a standard Cat5 cable (not crossover) is by the anocrym = Only Blondes Give Blowjobs.
This means always start off with the off colour then the full colour,
so Off Orange, Orange, Off Blue, Blue, Off Green, Green, Off Brown, Brown. >>



lol. Who taught you that?

 

[Zach]

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<<

CAT5 is either straight or cross over, so you have the right cable, just the wrong end.
>>



Wrong end? Sounds like there is a way to correct this? >>



You need a special tool, so best to just buy another cable. And, by the way, they are right the IP's you showed are bad (they wont cause cable unplugged message though), they should be 192.168.0.2 and 192.168.0.3.