NEWEGG BLOW OUT AMD 1700+ Thoroughbred 53 shipped (price went up again), Nutrend has it for 52

[forgottenid]

by shuttle I was referring to their new amd sff barebones system.

 

[mechBgon]

Originally posted by: corinthos
Okay dudes and dudettes... I'm leaning towards the Intel Celeron 1.7 with a P4S5A/DX+ mobo for $117... it would run pretty quiet but probably wouldn't be the best value...

The AthlonXP was already heavily outperforming the 400MHz-based P4 on a clock-per-clock basis before they took half the Willie's L2 cache away and started calling it a Celeron. That doesn't sound like a sensible buy.

 

[GnatGoSplat]

Originally posted by: mechBgon

Originally posted by: corinthos
Okay dudes and dudettes... I'm leaning towards the Intel Celeron 1.7 with a P4S5A/DX+ mobo for $117... it would run pretty quiet but probably wouldn't be the best value...

The AthlonXP was already heavily outperforming the 400MHz-based P4 on a clock-per-clock basis before they took half the Willie's L2 cache away and started calling it a Celeron. That doesn't sound like a sensible buy.

It's not.
I had 2 machines that I wanted to do budget upgrades on.
One I decided to try a Celeron 1.7 and the other an AMD XP1600+. For variety's sake.
The Celeron is noticeably slower even in basic things like opening windows.
I believe the SiSoft performance rating on the Celeron 1.7 is PR1863 while the XP1600+ was PR2051.
Both are using 512MB PC133 SDRAM and the same hard drive.

 

[jaws]

Ok, bought one, now where should I get a heatsink and fan? They wanted $6.00 shipping.

 

[chizow]

Originally posted by: jaws
Ok, bought one, now where should I get a heatsink and fan? They wanted $6.00 shipping.

Yah, that'll be uniform at most places due to the heatsinks somewhat substantial weight. Some places offer free shipping (Newegg), but that is only on their premium heatsinks and the cost with free shipping still ends up being more than places that charge actual shipping. I would try SVC, as I've always bought my heatsinks from them. Their selection used to be a lot more limited, but they always carried the high-end heatsinks for cheap as well as few good low-end sinks. On the low-end, I would consider a GC69 for ~$10 shipped, mid-range an SK-7 for ~25, and high-end the SLK-800 for ~35 shipped (best price by far on the 'net). You need to pick a fan with these, unless you have an existing 80mm fan. Also you can pick up a tube of AS3 that'll last you for a good long time for $5 and no shipping charge on top of your heat sink order. The AS3 at SVC costs about 40% less than other places before factoring in shipping.

Chiz

 

[TheMouse]

Originally posted by: chizow

Originally posted by: jaws
Ok, bought one, now where should I get a heatsink and fan? They wanted $6.00 shipping.

Yah, that'll be uniform at most places due to the heatsinks somewhat substantial weight. Some places offer free shipping (Newegg), but that is only on their premium heatsinks and the cost with free shipping still ends up being more than places that charge actual shipping. I would try SVC, as I've always bought my heatsinks from them. Their selection used to be a lot more limited, but they always carried the high-end heatsinks for cheap as well as few good low-end sinks. On the low-end, I would consider a GC69 for ~$10 shipped, mid-range an SK-7 for ~25, and high-end the SLK-800 for ~35 shipped (best price by far on the 'net). You need to pick a fan with these, unless you have an existing 80mm fan. Also you can pick up a tube of AS3 that'll last you for a good long time for $5 and no shipping charge on top of your heat sink order. The AS3 at SVC costs about 40% less than other places before factoring in shipping.

Chiz

what about a volcano 9?

 

[Jeff7]

Man...I'd have to get two of them right away though, one for my main PC, and one for the "video center" PC I have. The video one is technically my secondary PC, but it's almost as powerful as my main system. Just got my monthly medical insurance bill though...oh well. By the time I get enough money to upgrade, maybe the XP2800's will be more common.

 

[bjamm2]

i know with these prices im building a new pc with my tax return

 

[unchoops23]

I'm building my first PC and I have two quick questions:
1. Is there any risk of buying these OEM chips vs. a retail chip (besides the Warranty)?
2. What's a good MB for this chip?

Thanks.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: unchoops23
I'm building my first PC and I have two quick questions:
1. Is there any risk of buying these OEM chips vs. a retail chip (besides the Warranty)?
2. What's a good MB for this chip?

Thanks.

1) The majority of that risk can be removed by purchasing a 1-year warranty from Newegg.com for $5
2) Depends on how much money you want to spend, what kind of chipset you're desiring, what kind of features you want, etc.

 

[hasu]

Is this CPU TBred B? Newegg model number is AXDA1700DLT3C. Does that indicate it is rev B?

My first 1.4GHz athlon was very hot. Later I bought 1600XP Palomino which runs less hot. I read that TBreds use less power and guess that would run still cooler.

I am afraid of upgrading to higher speeds for fear of temperature of my relatively quiet rig

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: hasu
Is this CPU TBred B? Newegg model number is AXDA1700DLT3C. Does that indicate it is rev B?

My first 1.4GHz athlon was very hot. Later I bought 1600XP Palomino which runs less hot. I read that TBreds use less power and guess that would run still cooler.

I am afraid of upgrading to higher speeds for fear of temperature of my relatively quiet rig

Get a decent HSF and you won't need to worry about fear of temperature.

These processors are Tbred Bs, with many people receiving JIUHB and JIUCB processors, contrary to what the Newegg.com picture shows. Tbreds do indeed run cooler then their previous counterparts.

 

[PCMarine]

Wow, If I only had a spare rig to pop one in, I would order it

 

[Mallow]

this is nice, very nice.

PS. I get my hsf's from svc as well.

 

[hasu]

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Originally posted by: hasu
I am afraid of upgrading to higher speeds for fear of temperature of my relatively quiet rig

Get a decent HSF and you won't need to worry about fear of temperature.

I am using Swiftech Copper MCXC370-BLA with Panaflo 80mm 24 CFM fan and the CPU runs at 1.6v (as against the nominal 1.75v). Temperature is 46deg centigrade. If I run it at 1.75v, it will go well above 50 deg centigrade.

 

[Jaxidian]

I just burnt up my 1.33 tbird in my second system (oops on the hsf installation!), so this'll be a nice replacement. Was looking at Durons because I don't need anything powerful, but might as well pay another $10 and get 3x the cpu.


Good Find, especially with the free shipping!

 

[Jaxidian]

Originally posted by: hasu

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Originally posted by: hasu
I am afraid of upgrading to higher speeds for fear of temperature of my relatively quiet rig

Get a decent HSF and you won't need to worry about fear of temperature.

I am using Swiftech Copper MCXC370-BLA with Panaflo 80mm 24 CFM fan and the CPU runs at 1.6v (as against the nominal 1.75v). Temperature is 46deg centigrade. If I run it at 1.75v, it will go well above 50 deg centigrade.

If you use the right hsf and case fans, you won't have any problems. My case has 4 case fans in it, using an SLK-800 heatsink, using one of the ThermalTake "Smart" fans (the ugly orange ones), and it stays between 39-43 (never seen it higher than 44, even while gaming and watching a movie on my second monitor at the same time). The loudest thing in my box is one of my PS fans (not sure which one), and it's not very loud at all.

As long as you get plenty of quiet air cooling, strategically placed and with the air flowing in the correct direction, you'll be just fine. Also, if you're into modding, if you have an intake fan right over your cpu, that will make a world of difference for your cpu temps.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: hasu

Originally posted by: BigJ2078

Originally posted by: hasu
I am afraid of upgrading to higher speeds for fear of temperature of my relatively quiet rig

Get a decent HSF and you won't need to worry about fear of temperature.

I am using Swiftech Copper MCXC370-BLA with Panaflo 80mm 24 CFM fan and the CPU runs at 1.6v (as against the nominal 1.75v). Temperature is 46deg centigrade. If I run it at 1.75v, it will go well above 50 deg centigrade.

Seems weird to be getting that high of temperatures with that kind of cooler. I've got a $5 GC68 that breaks 50c (52c max) under full load with an 2100+ @ 2.158ghz at 1.75v. Maybe try a fan with a higher CFM, but still relatively quiet. There are many decent heatsinks that can be had for around 25-30$ with a nice fan that pushes a decent amount of air.

 

[MainFramed]

sweet deal thanks lsman

 

[ElectricLegs]

Unless you want the tornado noise grab a GC 68 or 69 from SVC. Copper is great for a base but isn't as good as aluminium at dissapating heat so the copper fins need fans that make lots of noise to be effective. The GC 68/69 with a 27cfm in a well ventilated case make for a good O/C with little noise. Grab a few of the $2.50 fans or the Panaflo's for your case and maybe power supply.

If you're going for max O/C speeds, have good (great) memory, and don't mind the hairdryer noise then the SK800 or similar might be useful to you but you'll need 50+cfm to get them working well.

As always... IMO

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ElectricLegs
Unless you want the tornado noise grab a GC 68 or 69 from SVC. Copper is great for a base but isn't as good as aluminium at dissapating heat so the copper fins need fans that make lots of noise to be effective. The GC 68/69 with a 27cfm in a well ventilated case make for a good O/C with little noise. Grab a few of the $2.50 fans or the Panaflo's for your case and maybe power supply.

If you're going for max O/C speeds, have good (great) memory, and don't mind the hairdryer noise then the SK800 or similar might be useful to you but you'll need 50+cfm to get them working well.

As always... IMO

The GC68s are great budget HSFs, but after 2.1ghz, they start to show why they are budget coolers. Copper is worse then aluminum at dissipating heat, but you don't need a monster fan to get good performance. With a decent 80mm fan pushing around 30-35 cfm, you're still going to have a great performing cooler in the SLK-800.

 

[Delbert]

One more time on the A vs. B? I got mine a couple weeks ago and received a DUT3C. These are listed as DLT3C'c.

 

[m1ke101]

just checking, but will my ax-7 be able to cool the 1700+ sufficiently?

 

[SKORPI0]

Originally posted by: Delbert
One more time on the A vs. B? I got mine a couple weeks ago and received a DUT3C. These are listed as DLT3C'c.

DLT3C - TBred A
DUT3C - TBred B

 

[alluu]

What's the difference between the SK-7 and SLK-800. Both can fit an 80mm fan.

I have the SVC Golden Gate. LINK How does this compare the the SK-7, SLK-800 or GC68/GC69.

I bought an XP1700+ a while back (from Fry's) and it was A version and was only able to get it up to 11*166.