Newegg price drop on xp 1700, 1800

drewdogg808

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nice drops on oem xp 1700 and 1800 at newegg, $108 and $125. getting harder to resist, but thoroughbreds around the corner.

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edit: price went back up to $120 for the xp 1700, and $128 for the 1800.

 

Ogewo

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Anyone know when the next gen athalons will be out? Maybe i'll wait on a system till then...cheap XPs.
 

SHT49781

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what's the best motherboard tog o with these nowadays? there seems to be so many, i haven't kept up with all these new mobos.
 

drewdogg808

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<< Anyone know when the next gen athalons will be out? Maybe i'll wait on a system till then...cheap XPs. >>


i think the thoroughbreds will be out in a week or two...they just announced it not too long ago..



<< what's the best motherboard tog o with these nowadays? >>


depends on what features you want, but many of the kt266a mbs are great in terms of price and performance. the newer kt333 mbs are starting to arrive with support for pc2700 ddr/ata 133 and other nice features, but they're a little more costly.
 

Tanner

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I got my XP1700 from Newegg.com about 2 weeks ago and paid $140 for it shipped Fedex Saver.



<< what's the best motherboard tog o with these nowadays? there seems to be so many, i haven't kept up with all these new mobos. >>



I use the Abit KR7A-RAID board...rated silver or something or other....by Anandtech

I might add that RAID is completely useless unless U R swapping HUGE files around...and I'm certainly NOT doing that
 

riddlebox

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i ran RAID 0 with two 40s a while back, WinXP kept crashing though, registry errors.... so i went with no raid and Win2k and everything is fine now, i don't see a bit of difference in performance
 

c627627

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Regarding this business of Thoroughbreds being out in a week or two,
they actually announced AMD XP 2100+, presumably the last AMD Palomino (XP) chip.
Thoroughbreds have been pushed back until May at least. They're only being tested right now.

I was going to wait for them too but if the XP 2100+ is $300 now (and at pricewatch.com at that), think about what the Thoroughbreds are going to cost when they first come out. I think we easily forget to be realistic. I mean, for a hundred bucks + we can get a really fast AMD XP 1700 that only runs about 266MHz less than the AMD XP 2100, and can kill Pentium 4's that cost two-three times more. Waiting for the newest-latest-hippest makes sense because they push the prices down of excellent albeit slightly less rated processors. Of course, if money is no object to you or if you are an enthusiast, all this does not apply to you - but if you're in it to get that system booting faster, start games and applications faster, to see everything move at stellar speed in comparison to your 400MHz processor - why not save a couple of hundred bucks and buy a bigger hard drive or a better video card with a hundred dollar CPU. Do you hear me knocking?
 

Dran

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<< Thoroughbreds have been pushed back until May at least. They're only being tested right now. >>



Not according to the OCP. Check {H}ardNews for Wednesday, March 13, 2002 - Second Ed., second post. T-breds should be shipping by the end of this month.

{EDIT} - cleaned up the bracket problem with {H}ardOCP
 

hudster

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yep, Dran's right, here it is, straight from AMD themselves.

man, I think it might be "upgrade time" reeeeeeeal soon. (especially after our visit to H&R Block the other night, after hearing what our tax refund is, it should be MUCH easier convincing my wife that we NEED to upgrade )

-hudster
 

GunsNRoses

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SOmeone please answer this
IF im NOT going to do any OVerclocking or messing with my motherboard at all
would the k7 SOYO DRAGON or dragon plus be a good motherboard for me to have for the money

i Would be very appreciative for any replies, thanks
 

hudster

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Gracjan,

I'm right there with ya regarding the wife. I like to ask too (because I like when she asks me when things are the other way around), and yeah, my wife's the saver and I'm the spender, so the convincing is difficult sometimes.

As for your comment about the new AMD processors and the speed&heat issues, AMD said:
"With this transition, AMD expects its processors to deliver improved performance, lower power, and smaller die sizes"

with lower power, the heat will be less, right? and with smaller dies sizes, the heat that is generated will be able to be dissipated more quickly, right?


-hudster

p.s. woohoo! I just graduated to senior member!
 

WageSlave

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GunsNRoses

If you are NOT doing ANY overclocking or anything, I think it is silly to byu anthing but a K7S5A (ECS) you can get one for 50$ and they
perform at nearly the same level as a kt266a so close that an endu user would NEVER notice a diffference..... only slightly in benchmarks
 

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I have a Athlon 1700+. The best board to get that is cheap but FULL of options is the Shuttle AK35GTR. It is less than $110 and has a 5.1 C-Media sound card, Highpoint Raid, KT266a, 4 DDR dimm's. Great board and will not break the bank.

You can even get this board at Newegg with the Chip. That is where I got my Shuttle AK35GTR
 

dragonlord2112

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I second the choice to get a K7S5A. It is truely the best performane/price ratio board out there. If you're broke (like me), you can still run SDRAM on it. It was also the easiest board I've ever set up - I had more problems setting up the K7S6A. Also, there is an excellent forum for ANY problems at Overclocker workbench if you're kinda new putting a board together or just have something you can't figure out. I'm now running an 1800XP chip (from the AMD giveaway - that Gigabyte board it came with sucked ass) on a K7S6A with no problems.
 

emjem

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GunsNRoses

There were a ton of RMAs with the ECS K7S5A. Now even if those old K7S5A problems have been fixed I wouldn't buy ECS because they have next to zero customer support. They are not accustomed to dealing directly with retail customers and have no system set up to do so.

Shuttle, Epox and MSI all have good mobos for under $100. If you browse through the Motherboard forum you will get some idea of what's what with the different brands.



 

Wei

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wow i could still remember not too long ago when i won the 1800 xp during the xp extreme performance give away. let's see, that was during early octobor, and now they are going to a new launch another processor? What a short life cycle for xp, it only lasted just about 6 months.

wonder if they are going to have the same give away tour.

enough said. I love my xp process, it's no doubt one of the best every made, and the price / performance ratio is unbeatable.

as for mb, i recommand the nforce boards, this way, you get a gforce 2 card, nic and sound (good one too) all in 1 package for around 150.

 

boa

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I have 2 Soyo Dragon Plus boards. Both work like champs.
I've had (like so many at OCWorkBench) some of the "issues" with ECS k7s5a's. They are great also... WHEN THEY WORK!

Three lessons I have learned the hard way.
1) Don't buy a mainboard as soon as it is released. Wait at least a month to get improved versions.
2) Always buy components from good places like newegg, tcwo, etc. It is worth it if you ever need to rma.
3) overclocking and raid are GREATLY over rated.

Good luck on getting a mobo.
 

waqasusman

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Do we have an AMD board with USB 2.0 support? I didn't notice any.
 

Oakenfold

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Gigabyte has one I know for sure on the amd 761 chipset that is usb 2.0, I'm not positive but MSI might have one.
 

Squalish2357

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Just so you know, here is the latest info:

Their press release has said that sometime toward the end of the month(probably on the 20th), AMD will be shipping thoroughbreds to its customers... This just means that chip samples will be sent out to motherboard manufacturers.
Consumer products come a minimum of 8-10 weeks later, but during that period there will of course be extensive leaks, and towards the end there will be review samples sent out.

Very little about the Thoroughbred is known, and that is because the only current samples are deep within AMD labs, behind volumes of non-disclosure agreements.

Right now, the XP2100 core produces the most heat(about 70 watts) of the whole line, tying with the Thunderbird 1400 for hottest chip ever. If your heatsink slips off one of these babies, I give it a third of a second before it bursts into flame.

The Thoroughbred core will be a MUCH better overclocker, and produce MUCH less heat. In comparison, the P4 northwood core 1.6a chips can run on generic crap cooling up to 2300+ mhz easily.

Next: When chips x86 chips diverged(at the athlon XP and P4), the P4 did about 25% less performance per Mhz in return for less heat, while the XP did 9% more performance and less heat(but not as great a heat reduction as the P4)

The Northwood, the first of the next gen of chips, is smaller, same performance as the P4, and produces much less heat.

The thoroughbred will be 55% the size of the northwood, and produce MUCH less heat, while at the same time doing MUCH better performance, presumably about the same performance per Mhz as the XP.



Wait for the thoroughbred, it will be more than worth it. The best bang for the buck will probably be getting the retroactively cored chips(for example the P4 Northwood 1.6a) that performs at xp1800 levels by default. You will be able to overclock this up to xp2500 levels, which work as fast as a 3200mhz P4. I saw a spec from a motherboard manufacturer that said that the first chips will work at XP1800, XP2100, and XP2200 speeds.
 

slycat

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i've set up both...on ecs k7s5a and soyo dragon plus w/raid0

yes the k7s5a requires much more tweaking but is dirt cheap...i would NOT
recommend it for newbies at all tho'. even for non-newbies...it can turn out to be a real hair-puller.
the soyo setup was uneventful...worked on 1st try, everything...

u pay 3x more for the soyo than the k7s5a tho...
 

may

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k7s5a is great considering the cost. It can still use your PC133, most other boards can't.
 
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