Newegg selling Fake Intel CPUs

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PottedMeat

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Apr 17, 2002
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Ok and what about the box with typos all over it? What about the fake CPU mold?

dunno why they went with the crappily made custom box, it's probably easier to use trashed real boxes.

the fake cpu seems interesting. it looks like a little painted aluminum plate with a real heat spreader on it. no idea where they would get 300 heat spreaders.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Anyone inspecting the physical CPU box for more than five seconds would realize they were demo boxes. Did you see the photos of the box?

I doubt the people packaging and shipping off the orders are looking at the product for even 5 seconds.

they go to the spot its sopposed to be. grab it off the shelf and put it on the belt. the guy who packs it just puts the stuff in the box and ships it.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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LMAO that is freaken hilarious!

Probably Chinese kids at the factory trying to get a sense of humor. They have probably all been shot against a wall by now.
 

sygyzy

Lifer
Oct 21, 2000
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LMAO that is freaken hilarious!

Probably Chinese kids at the factory trying to get a sense of humor. They have probably all been shot against a wall by now.

My mind exploded when I read what you wrote. How are you possibly a Lifer?
 

daw123

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Aug 30, 2008
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Since they went to so much effort to make a fake retail box, I would have thought they would have made sure that it was identical to the real one (no mis-spelt words).
 

Locut0s

Lifer
Nov 28, 2001
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Either this is a dumby model they shipped accidentally, like someone said above or else I call shens. Usually even "counterfeit" stuff looks better than this. Counterfeiters want to still make money, they don't mind ripping their customers off but they would rather their customers didn't know and were repeat customers. For example most pirated software and even re-branded hardware still works but isn't genuine or good quality.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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Better to appease the stupid customer & lose a little money on the MB than to keep a customer with a youtube account dissatisfied.
Well that might have been a good approach 20 years ago when nobody would have been buying computer components unless they knew what they were doing. But today, judging by the customer reviews on Newegg, and the number of forums topics I see like "where do I find drivers for the new $300 enthusiast motherboard that I just purchased...how do I install Windows on the new $1500 server or gaming machine I just put together...blah blah", that is a significant percentage of Newegg's customers. And we have organized fraud these days thanks to the internet, where hundreds of people readily share their "how-to" stories to exploit these situations for their own gain, with hundreds of thousands more reading them.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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I doubt the people packaging and shipping off the orders are looking at the product for even 5 seconds.

they go to the spot its sopposed to be. grab it off the shelf and put it on the belt. the guy who packs it just puts the stuff in the box and ships it.
Its even better than that, depending on the component. A lot of things these days are loaded into an automated dispenser. A bar-coded label is printed up, stuck onto a plastic tote/box and sent down a conveyor. As the tote goes by Part #1234, the system tells the dispenser to automatically chuck the required number into the tote. Human beings only verify that everything made it into the tote and pick something by hand only if they need to, for whatever reason.
 

rahvin

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Oct 10, 1999
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NewEgg or one of their suppliers got taken on a load of fakes. The people posting in this thread obviously have no idea how far people will go to fake CPU's these days. Anyone remember back in the days of the Pentium II how there were groups buying the CPU's and using lasers to alter the CPU's into the higher bin speed? Basically taking a $300 CPU and turning it into a $600 cpu with very little work?

This was an intentional scam, one of Newegg's suppliers is buying from questionable channels. Someone at one of those suppliers bought a load of product from outside the normal channels. Maybe they have a history of buying from outside the proper channels and dealing with stolen merchandise and rather than hijacking a load the group decided to simply produce a fake package to sell. The take on this single Pallet was $75K, I sincerely doubt that the 300 claimed are the only ones produced, they likely spread these fake loads out to all their clients. Consider a truck load of these would have been worth millions. Organized crime has been expanding to high tech theft because such small loads can be worth millions.

Don't buy the press line, these weren't demo's, they are FAR to elaborate and missing key things to be a demo. Real Intel demo boxes would have used real boxes and sealing tape and would have simply had a plastic replica in the box. These boxes (they even printed text on the box so the sealing tape looks like the real deal) have a fake sticker with a photo of a fan on them made to look real with a supporting fake fan that's made of spray insulation. No, this screams intentional fakes, probably made by organized crime. Newegg is trying to cover their ass here but the reality is they have been buying from suppliers or their suppliers have been buying from suppliers outside the ordinary and approved supply chain. It's scary to think NewEgg (or their suppliers) has been buying outside the normal channels and potentially exposing all their clients to stolen or fake goods.

Anyway, don't buy the CYIA press line of these being demo boxes, they aren't, there are simply to many things indicating fakes IMO.
 

Rubycon

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Aug 10, 2005
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Remarking and fakes are completely different though. With a remarked chip it was hard to tell you were taken as you had a working system! Back in the days of Win95 you could have a remarked CPU running higher than stock that could be 95% stable and blame the stability problems on Windows!

I remember getting a 486 board with FAKE L2 cache chips. They were DIPs with markings sanded off and the board acted like if nothing was connected to them, etc.

Laser remarking brought us into the days of locked multipliers. Now if you want unlocked chips you have to pay 3 times more for this "feature".

NewEgg or one of their suppliers got taken on a load of fakes. The people posting in this thread obviously have no idea how far people will go to fake CPU's these days. Anyone remember back in the days of the Pentium II how there were groups buying the CPU's and using lasers to alter the CPU's into the higher bin speed? Basically taking a $300 CPU and turning it into a $600 cpu with very little work?

This was an intentional scam, one of Newegg's suppliers is buying from questionable channels. Someone at one of those suppliers bought a load of product from outside the normal channels. Maybe they have a history of buying from outside the proper channels and dealing with stolen merchandise and rather than hijacking a load the group decided to simply produce a fake package to sell. The take on this single Pallet was $75K, I sincerely doubt that the 300 claimed are the only ones produced, they likely spread these fake loads out to all their clients. Consider a truck load of these would have been worth millions. Organized crime has been expanding to high tech theft because such small loads can be worth millions.

Don't buy the press line, these weren't demo's, they are FAR to elaborate and missing key things to be a demo. Real Intel demo boxes would have used real boxes and sealing tape and would have simply had a plastic replica in the box. These boxes (they even printed text on the box so the sealing tape looks like the real deal) have a fake sticker with a photo of a fan on them made to look real with a supporting fake fan that's made of spray insulation. No, this screams intentional fakes, probably made by organized crime. Newegg is trying to cover their ass here but the reality is they have been buying from suppliers or their suppliers have been buying from suppliers outside the ordinary and approved supply chain. It's scary to think NewEgg (or their suppliers) has been buying outside the normal channels and potentially exposing all their clients to stolen or fake goods.

Anyway, don't buy the CYIA press line of these being demo boxes, they aren't, there are simply to many things indicating fakes IMO.
 
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Either this is a dumby model they shipped accidentally, like someone said above or else I call shens. Usually even "counterfeit" stuff looks better than this. Counterfeiters want to still make money, they don't mind ripping their customers off but they would rather their customers didn't know and were repeat customers. For example most pirated software and even re-branded hardware still works but isn't genuine or good quality.

It's pretty obvious they're only wanting to fool the distributor, not the customer. Sorta different situation imo


It sounds to me like either newegg's distributor (surprised they don't buy direct from Intel????) has some problematic employees or worst case, Intel has a shipping chain problem.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Newegg is trying to cover their ass here but the reality is they have been buying from suppliers or their suppliers have been buying from suppliers outside the ordinary and approved supply chain. It's scary to think NewEgg (or their suppliers) has been buying outside the normal channels and potentially exposing all their clients to stolen or fake goods.

Indeed. Disturbing is this.

Makes me wonder how many XP Pro OEMs that Newegg sells are fake. Remember the reports of grey-market HDs being sold by Newegg as "OEM/bulk", that had no mfg warranty when checked at the web site?
 

geno

Lifer
Dec 26, 1999
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the fake cpu seems interesting. it looks like a little painted aluminum plate with a real heat spreader on it. no idea where they would get 300 heat spreaders.

Not sure if it's real only because of the indication of "bubbles" on the surface according to the second link in the OP. The stock heat spreader is copper and aluminum I think, nothing that can bubble. They either came up with fake molds or fashioned them out of a different material and coated them somehow.
 

peonyu

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Mar 12, 2003
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How could the guys packing these items to be shipped out not notice the weight difference though ? Youd figure they would have a rough idea of the weight of a CPU/HSF combo by now, which is definately not featherweight. Doesnt look like that HSF weighs anything at all, unless theres a brick placed in there not shown in the pics.
 

peonyu

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Mar 12, 2003
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Im sure he knows he will get a free motherboard [likely a better one than what he had] by installing the fake into his board so he went with it...And Newegg deserves it. Mistakes happen at times with shipping, but blatant fakes like this getting through is something else. There are spelling errors, the fan is clearly a sticker and its noticable even through the packing, and it weighs next to nothing. Pretty much Newegg needs to revamp its methods of spotting counterfeights if 300 blatant ones like this can make it through.
 

Red Squirrel

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May 24, 2003
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Is there an official note out from newegg on this? I'm curious to know the real story behind this. We can all theorize, but it would be interesting to know what happened.

I still think it's kinda funny, but guess it's not so funny for those that get them LOL. I know the feeling of getting computer parts then you can't finish the build because of a defective part. Really sucks.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
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How could the guys packing these items to be shipped out not notice the weight difference though ? Youd figure they would have a rough idea of the weight of a CPU/HSF combo by now, which is definately not featherweight. Doesnt look like that HSF weighs anything at all, unless theres a brick placed in there not shown in the pics.
lmao. Have you ever worked in a high-volume warehouse? These guys don't have the time to notice things like a few ounces weight difference or to sit around "examining" things like spelling on a box. Good Lord what are you, 15 and never worked a day in your life?
 

RagingBITCH

Lifer
Sep 27, 2003
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lmao. Have you ever worked in a high-volume warehouse? These guys don't have the time to notice things like a few ounces weight difference or to sit around "examining" things like spelling on a box. Good Lord what are you, 15 and never worked a day in your life?

His name is "peon".
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Is there an official note out from newegg on this? I'm curious to know the real story behind this. We can all theorize, but it would be interesting to know what happened.

I still think it's kinda funny, but guess it's not so funny for those that get them LOL. I know the feeling of getting computer parts then you can't finish the build because of a defective part. Really sucks.

It's been mentioned in the thread already. Newegg is fixing it. A batch was shipped that shouldn't have been, this happens time to time in major logistics.

I think it's really funny that people jumped to the conclusion that Newegg was screwing people. I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't lawsuits already brewing.
 
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