Newer Motherboards with VGA ports

[trungma]

What's with all the new motherboard equipped with a VGA port? It all started with the x77 motherboards. It is almost as a bad as having a floppy connector. Let's get rid of this dying tech.

 

[crashtech]

Lots of average users still have VGA connected monitors, so I think it is appropriate for the onboard video to still include it. I actually try to spec mobos that have at least 3 out of the 4 video outputs commonly in use, usually VGA, DVI, and HDMI. That way the customer is almost certainly able to connect their monitor. Most power users who know enough to be disdainful of an antiquated standard like VGA are probably running a dGPU that excludes it anyway.

 

[coffeejunkee]

Ok, your board doesn't have it but there are plenty of Z68 boards with vga connector. I think it's just to fill up otherwise unused space on the backpanel, or maybe for the last 2 diehard crt users. Wouldn't mind seeing it go, especially on Z boards.

 

[master_shake_]

vga is not dying...

man...i don't even...

 

[trungma]

vga is not dying...

man...i don't even...

I'd like to know why it's not dying. I haven't used VGA in over 14 years. But I was expecting people to defend it, especially die hard gamers who hate lag. But I doubt die hard gamers use the onboard video.

 

[trungma]

Lots of average users still have VGA connected monitors, so I think it is appropriate for the onboard video to still include it. I actually try to spec mobos that have at least 3 out of the 4 video outputs commonly in use, usually VGA, DVI, and HDMI. That way the customer is almost certainly able to connect their monitor. Most power users who know enough to be disdainful of an antiquated standard like VGA are probably running a dGPU that excludes it anyway.

Computers and electronics are so disposable nowadays, I'm suprised that anybody upgrading their computer will keep their old monitors.

 

[crashtech]

I see it all the time. I've replaced lots of towers where the user wants to keep their old peripherals and upgrade them themselves as need arises and money allows.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

But I was expecting people to defend it, especially die hard gamers who hate lag.

Unless you're running an old fashion CRT, there will be an DAC/ADC conversion with flat-panel monitors. Better to keep it digital all the way, using DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort.

VGA still has a few speciality uses though. Not that I've used it for anything personal for 10(+) years...

 

[mkmitch]

Just spent $119 after rebate for an anniversary pentium and Asus z97-p board. Cobbled together spare parts such as 6870 2gb video card into a 2nd machine. Hooked up my Dell 1600X900 monitor via VGA adapter. I now have a pretty good machine at very little new cost to me ($275 including, SSD, board, chip and software).

 

[mikeymikec]

Lots of average users still have VGA connected monitors, so I think it is appropriate for the onboard video to still include it.

+1

I wouldn't mind if newer boards didn't have VGA, as long as the DVI port was DVI-I rather than DVI-D. All the former needs is a cheap adapter so allow a VGA monitor to connect to it.

With my recent computer builds, the lack of VGA connection has been a problem for probably about 50% of my customers (I went for what I regarded as the better board rather than sacrifice features for a VGA connector). In those scenarios we've either decommissioned a working monitor (which will probably end up on the scrap heap) or we've put a graphics card in with a VGA connector.

All the LCD monitors I've ever bought have DVI connectors (I explicitly chose them for future-proofing reasons), but I've seen pretty recent monitors being sold with only VGA connectors (2008-2010).

As for me, I can sometimes see a difference between VGA and DVI at 1080p, but not below that resolution.

- edit - Sure enough, the cheapest new monitor sold by one of my suppliers is VGA only:
http://www.cclonline.com/product/14...tor-100M-1-200cd/m2-1600x900-5ms-VGA/MON2906/

Computers and electronics are so disposable nowadays, I'm suprised that anybody upgrading their computer will keep their old monitors.

Only if you like being wasteful. Also, just because someone has an older computer, it doesn't mean that the monitor is that old. I can't remember the last time I bought a new monitor when building a PC for myself (my guess is 1998). In that time I've had 4 monitors (and I only replaced each one when it died/seriously malfunctioned).

 

[master_shake_]

I'd like to know why it's not dying. I haven't used VGA in over 14 years. But I was expecting people to defend it, especially die hard gamers who hate lag. But I doubt die hard gamers use the onboard video.

well just because you haven't used it in 14 years doesn't mean it is dying.

i use it daily im sure if you have ever seen a server board you will notice that all of them have one.

 

[Mantrid-Drone]

I use a great little VGA monitor: a 19" Dell SE177FP 5:4 (BTW it was sold as 17" but the 5:4 format means it actually has a 19" diagonal screen) I bought used three years ago and has worked fine connected to my laptop which only has VGA out anyway. Why get rid of something that still works. Its not digital but so what?

I also use VGA at 1080p for a XB360 connected to a Dell U2412M 16:10 and its fine, no artifacts, no obvious PQ issues compared to HDMI which I have done.

If we're talking about pointless PC display connectors cluttering up our equipment I'd I'd cite Displayport as a far better candidate. They've been trying to 'persuade' us on this, as far as I can see, increasingly sidelined system for several years.

HDMI clearly won some time ago yet some GPU manufacturers are still putting only one HDMI but two (mini) Displayport outputs on their cards. Both the graphics cards I have support VGA via DVI connectors. MB manufacturers seem to be less enamored by Displayport but there are laptops I've seen reviewed which have HDMI and a mini-Displayport but now no VGA.

That U2312M monitor is another case in point: a relatively modern monitor but with VGA as said but only supporting HDMI via its single DVI socket. Rather than include a second DVI or a dedicated HDMI socket the third and final connector is Displayport.

 

[crashtech]

Maybe HDMI was won now that it has caught up with v2.0. I haven't had a chance to play with it, I wonder if any posters here have.

 

[Blue_Max]

Maybe if monitor companies would stop putting VGA cables in the dang box! Grrrr....

 

[crashtech]

I have more of those than I can give away, maybe they do too, haha.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

vga taking up too much space? my haswell motherboard has a com and printerport. no joke.

still using vga, although it's via the dvi-I on the graphics card, crt is still amazing.

 

[Ayah]

What's with all the new motherboard equipped with a VGA port? It all started with the x77 motherboards. It is almost as a bad as having a floppy connector. Let's get rid of this dying tech.

vga's standard for servers/embedded but there really isn't any excuse for it to be on consumer gear.

 

[crashtech]

It would be good for the monitor business if it were to disappear, that much is sure.

 

[Cerb]

I'd like to know why it's not dying. I haven't used VGA in over 14 years. But I was expecting people to defend it, especially die hard gamers who hate lag. But I doubt die hard gamers use the onboard video.

Your monitor has VGA, and you have a VGA cable. You're going to use VGA. You need to use a projector, and it's not brand new. You need VGA (often needing a DVI adapter, these days, on notebooks, but that's OK). A perfectly good monitor gets a PC upgrade. What, you're going to throw out the monitor just because it uses an old connector? Not if an upgrade isn't really needed. You'll use VGA.

I do wish they would standardize on (DP, DP, DVI-I) as a set of outputs, instead of having a dedicated VGA, though.

 

[Deders]

There are still plenty of flatscreen monitors that people bought years ago that only have a VGA input.

 

[Vinwiesel]

VGA needs to go away. So sad when my new G3258 system can't connect to my 1440p monitor, but it'll happily connect to the 20 year old CRT that has been in my closet for the last 10 years.

A Dual-Link DVI port and a HDMI port would cover virtually everything, and remain all-digital for a great picture. VGA could still be covered with an adapter.

 

[VirtualLarry]

VGA needs to go away.
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A Dual-Link DVI port

While I'm in no hurry to see VGA disappear (like PS/2 ports, it's universal); I would like to see more mobo's with video outputs, include DUAL-LINK DVI, instead of just SL DVI-D.

 

[mikeymikec]

A Dual-Link DVI port and a HDMI port would cover virtually everything, and remain all-digital for a great picture. VGA could still be covered with an adapter.

It could if it was DVI-I, which the boards I've seen aren't.

 

[Chipfiref]

I always look for a Displayport since I have 5 monitors that support it. It has lots of (underused, especially with integrated video) bandwidth. Still, I always look for it.

I never use VGA, have an old VGA monitor on a shelf. But I do understand why it is still included - the minute it is not there, you need it. Also for business (servers, etc.)