You meant his salary instead of pension, right?
He’ll have no pension from his seat in the House. Takes five or six elections to it before qualifying for pension.
Does still collect his salary until his replacement is voted in.
You meant his salary instead of pension, right?He hasn't even had his congressional privileges revoked yet (won't happen unless convicted of felony or House changes its rules), just lost his office and position. Still can parade around House grounds all he wants & still collect his pension & access all House facilities as any other member. So he still has time and access for grifting/theft...
Usually at a company, who hires you is not the same person(s) that fires you. So isn't it really the same?
Cool.
The significance is a different discussion/argument. IE it goes beyond the scope of the analogy used.No, because in a democracy, an elected representative works for the people. The difference between the people and someone's Congressional colleagues is much more significant than the difference between the HR Manager and the COO of a company.
That's not true. There's another option, it's even laid out in the Constitution.Besides, there is no mechanism for the people to remove someone from Congress outside the normal voting cycle. They used the only option as layed out in the constitution.
Are you referring to impeachment? That isn't an option in today's world.That's not true. There's another option, it's even laid out in the Constitution.
No, not that one...Are you referring to impeachment? That isn't an option in today's world.
How about you enlighten us?No, not that one...
How about you enlighten us?
Yup. Not that I'm specifically calling for it, just countering the assertion there's zero mechanism.-I get the impression he's referencing the 2A.
If you think that is an option, you don't understand the 2A at all. It is not a constitutional legal option to remove a represenative from congress. Since it's not a legal option, it's not an option.Yup. Not that I'm specifically calling for it, just countering the assertion there's zero mechanism.
But that’s just it. Gun nutters see everything as self dense.If you think that is an option, you don't understand the 2A at all. It is not a constitutional legal option to remove a represenative from congress. Since it's not a legal option, it's not an option.
It's undefined in the 2A, but it doesn't need to be. The constitution places limits on the govt, it doesn't provide permission to the people.If you think that is an option, you don't understand the 2A at all. It is not a constitutional legal option to remove a represenative from congress. Since it's not a legal option, it's not an option.
First, it's not undefined in the 2A. Second, the constitution sets limits on govt, but also gives the government the authority to impliment laws that apply to the poeple thru the legislative branch. Murder and assignations being illegal for example.It's undefined in the 2A, but it doesn't need to be. The constitution places limits on the govt, it doesn't provide permission to the people.
There's a very, very specific reason the founders introduced the amendment, and why it was hot on the heels of our independence from Britain. The legality is irrelevant if the laws and lawmakers are corrupted to the point of making the act necessary
First, it's not undefined in the 2A. Second, the constitution sets limits on govt, but also gives the government the authority to impliment laws that apply to the poeple thru the legislative branch. Murder and assignations being illegal for example.
You are correct, the founders had a specific purpose for the 2A, It's purpose was to counteract a tyrannical federal government, and not for removing a single representative. As I said, you don't understand the 2A. Also, the 2nd amendment wasn't hot on the heals of our independence from Britian. The 2A came 15 years later, which in that time period, was half a life time.
Problem is January 6th they sided with the Dictator in Waiting.Yup. Not that I'm specifically calling for it, just countering the assertion there's zero mechanism.
They sure did, which presents quite the conundrum.Problem is January 6th they sided with the Dictator in Waiting.
No it's not.. that is a manpulation of the 2A and the constitution. The original purpose of the 2A was to counter a tyrannical federal government. 1 representative does not make up a tyrannical federal government. Even if that was the case, the fact that he was expelled, demonstrates this does not fit the bill. Both you and [DHT]Osiris are extremely delusional on the 2A if you believe it constitutional, to off a representative, under the the 2A, as an option, or a right to do so.-A major component of the 2A is to preserve people's right to an extrajudicial check on government power.
So it is absolutely illegal and somehow still constitutional.
Wow! He's reaching out to all of his supporters personally . . . all 4 of them!
That's "I con", not "icon"And he keeps on keeping on...
He's offering personalized videos on Cameo.
He labels himself as a former congressional ''Icon'!" on his Cameo page.
Yup. Former congressional "Icon!". I couldn't make this stuff up - but he sure can - and did.
And he keeps on keeping on...
He's offering personalized videos on Cameo.
He labels himself as a former congressional ''Icon'!" on his Cameo page.
Yup. Former congressional "Icon!". I couldn't make this stuff up - but he sure can - and did.
And it's still and never has been funny.He’s so famous he’s infamous