Why don't you take a look at the 6 mo stock history of Gamestop. They have been far from 'taking a beating" since well before E3. They are up over 30% since January.
^^ You DO realize that it's just a PR spin BS release, right?
They HAVE to say that, they've been beaten up in stock price and investor confidence. Their only other choice is to call Microsoft out on their BS, and risk not even being able to stock Xbox One stuff at all, or get yanked from their BS 'partner vendor' status to even be able to use their GIMPED Hal-9000 used game/trade system.
Not flash. Mask ROM.
Oh noes we can't lose $2.50 per $60 game on a superior actual physical product, we need it all in our pockets!
I posted this in another thread but definitely pertinent here...GameStop sure doesn't seem to be worried about the used game issue on the X-Bone...
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johngau...mless-transition-of-xbox-one-used-game-sales/
That's because:
a) with X1, only "authorized" vendors like GameStop are allowed to buy and resell used copies. No eBay, Amazon used sellers or garage sales. MS handed them a monopoly on X1 used sales.
b) there will be a fee ($10?) for transferring a game, but GameStop will just make you pay it, it won't cut into their profits.
(b) also means they might give you $30 for a used PS4 game, but only ($30 - $10) = $20 for the same used X1 game, to cover the fee.
The company (Gamestop) has to show confidence in a product they stock, but at the store level they can sell whatever they think their customers will benefit from or want.
So the store doesn't have to tell people the xbone is good if they don't want to. They just can't make it public in so much as restrict advertising space and the like.
Some guy was in gamestop when I pre-ordered my PS4 and he didn't know which new system was the best choice. I'll tell you that the two employees (one is a good friend of mine) basically asked him if he was tied to xbox live and if not don't even bother with the xbone. That is what they can do, what they can't do is restrict advertising and promotional materials. Yes I do believe that if they said "Xbox hurts our customers" They would be yanked from the used game retailer list.
i said this exact thing would happen on tuesday in one of the other threads, that the gamestop employees would educate people and that ps4 is gonna get the "mommy and daddy holiday" sales because of it. hopefully this will actually affect microsoft and this will wake them up forcing them to make some changes.
Thinking about it, at some point the ($10?) fee to transfer a game at GameStop will mean they offer you $0:
- Older game is now selling at $30 new, GameStop selling used for $20
- Trade- in value is $10 for PS4, but $10 - $10 xfer fee = $0 for X1.
i said this exact thing would happen on tuesday in one of the other threads, that the gamestop employees would educate people and that ps4 is gonna get the "mommy and daddy holiday" sales because of it. hopefully this will actually affect microsoft and this will wake them up forcing them to make some changes.
I think a lot of people are being short sighted by focusing on the situation on launch day rather than looking at which console will have the advantage over the entire dev cycle. This is the same argument that was used against the PS3 at launch and because of pricing, loss of Linux & backward compatability etc and by the end of the cycle (now) the PS3 pretty much caught up.
The same can be said who said the 360 would never survive because of the RROD and everyone would flock to the PS3, yet I'm pretty sure we all know people who bought additional 360's whether they RROD or not.
I have both current Gen consoles, and would probably buy both again if there was any IP on the PS4 that was a must have for me. However with the tarnishing of the pitiful Gran Turismo franchise, and the fact that Square Enix is releasing Kingdom Hearts 3 on multiplatform and that there is nothing the PS4 does that the X-Bone can't (but many things it does that the PS4 doesn't that interest me like fantasy football, tv integration, access to HBO & On-Demand services etc) and IP that I want like Forza 5, Project Spark, and Halo, not to mention everyone I know is on XBL for me its a no brainer. Plus looking forward to future tech the X-Bone is better positioned to move in a direction that interests me. I can put electrical tape over the kinect sensor etc should I ever feel the need to don a tinfoil hat.
I think a lot of people are being short sighted by focusing on the situation on launch day
Originally Posted by DaveSimmons
Thinking about it, at some point the ($10?) fee to transfer a game at GameStop will mean they offer you $0:
- Older game is now selling at $30 new, GameStop selling used for $20
- Trade- in value is $10 for PS4, but $10 - $10 xfer fee = $0 for X1.
No, they will change the fee to who purchases the game.
So you trade in at $10 and they charge 10% less than the new game and it's all profit.
Their used prices are based off of a percentage. They take the new game price and subtract the trade in value and do some math formula to come up with the used game price.
This may just make xbone games cost more used as well.
If they pay you the same for PS4 and X1 games, then they either give up $10 (unlikely) or charge $10 more for the used X1 game. That only works for X1 if the PS4 used price is more than $10 below new.
So for a $30 game new, you're thinking the PS4 would sell for $17 used while X1 would be $27 used?
It seems more plausible to me that they'd want to collect the fee up front at trade in time instead of at sale time, to make sure they don't eat the cost if the disc doesn't sell.
So they pay you $10 less, but sell both the PS4 and X1 versions at the same price.
Know what I'm looking forward to? Sony not giving my info to the NSA. It's not tinfoil hat, it's outed all over the news. MS was the first tech company back in 2007 to give in.
So are you telling me there's a chance all the immature little shits can end up on a ps4, and this is supposed to be a knock against the Xbox? I personally don't give a shit what some gamestop employee thinks about either system, I will do my own thinking.Even if they employees stay totally neutral, mommy and daddy are going to see the price difference and decide to save their extra $100.
I am probably the biggest sports fan in my group, and I could care less about all that stuff. I don't need my xbox to tell me how my fantasy team is doing, because I have it on my phone if I want. I also have no intention of running tv through my xbox, so that also doesn't do much for me.Not to mention that the TV / Football BS is just that, BS. We already have all that crap, on our phones, our tablets, etc, etc. I have no damned problem pulling up any of it. I don't need my game console to do any of that crap.
The fact that the Xbone has garbage for hardware by comparison is just embarrassing. Pathetic.
So are you telling me there's a chance all the immature little shits can end up on a ps4, and this is supposed to be a knock against the Xbox? I personally don't give a shit what some gamestop employee thinks about either system, I will do my own thinking.
Hey that's fine by me. But that might actually be a selling point for the Xbox. Now I can go online ane not listen to a punk 12 year old screaming out racial slurs, they will all be on the ps4.Think about it. How many clueless parents or grandparents wander into a game store and say "my kids want a new video game system for christmas." I remember hearing it all "The Play box" "The Playstation cube" "The Nintendo xbox" "The sony xcube" lol
They want advice and they generally look to the employee as something of an expert on gaming. They will follow any advice or suggestions they give. afterall they always respond with "I know nothing about this stuff..."
Hey that's fine by me. But that might actually be a selling point for the Xbox. Now I can go online ane not listen to a punk 12 year old screaming out racial slurs, they will all be on the ps4.
Hey that's fine by me. But that might actually be a selling point for the Xbox. Now I can go online ane not listen to a punk 12 year old screaming out racial slurs, they will all be on the ps4.
I'm glad that is one of the many games that I just don't care for.You'll get that either way. Mostly with CoD though. It's kind of unavoidable unless you only play with friends.