Because it looks and plays better on the newer consoles, higher resolution and higher frames per second, or like in Battlefield 4, you get 64 players on one map on the new consoles instead of just 32 on the old consoles.
Because it looks and plays better on the newer consoles, higher resolution and higher frames per second, or like in Battlefield 4, you get 64 players on one map on the new consoles instead of just 32 on the old consoles.What is the point then of allowing companies to release the same game for 360 and XB1 if they aren't leveraging that huge 360 install base for multiplayer? Why get the new console if I can play a version of the same game with MORE people on the 360?
I know you can't answer all that, but this seems obvious stuff to me.
just fyi, shadowrun did this exact thing like 7 or so years ago. pc and 360 gamers could play against eachother.
If they let people play across gen it slows down adoption. There will come a point when enough people have upgraded to next gen that you'll be forced to get on board as well to continue playing with them.
Because it looks and plays better on the newer consoles, higher resolution and higher frames per second, or like in Battlefield 4, you get 64 players on one map on the new consoles instead of just 32 on the old consoles.
Yes, but won't it slow adoption TO the PS4 until the XB1 can level the playing field a little with install base? Seems like with the XB1 losing so far this round anything MS can do to make getting a PS4 a more painful transition for a former 360 owner they need to do.
I get that, but couldn't you have some maps that are mixed console and some that are XB1 only with the extra features? That would be best of both worlds for MS as then people could play their friends with 360s while telling them the whole time "if only you had a XB1 we could play this way cooler map!"
What the heck does 4k TVs have to do with consoles? Even the beefiest PC has a tough time getting playable frame rates at 4k let alone 60fps.
I'll throw this out as BD has made some decent arguements; but main arguement from devs why Destiny ps3/360 players can't play with ps4/one players.......draw distance; PS4/One's draw distance is so much greater than ps3/360; since there is pvp in the game. Anyone on a ps3/360 would be owned hard by anyone on ps4/one........
That's a great way to keep your game going by alienating and pissing off a large core of your players; thus they walled them.....that tends to be the biggest reason why most games don't have cross platform play. You can argue a lot of reasons; but if you start a cascade that pisses off a large chunk of your players; they will just up and quit and find another game to play or won't buy at all as they know they are at a disavantage already by being on last gen's hardware....
just tell your friends to play on PC and you won't have that problem ever again, plus you'll save hundreds of dollars a year.
No one is debating that you shouldn't be able to play the same game on either console together. But that doesn't make a difference for this gen. You (or your friends) made a decision last gen that you failed to make now. That is literally the only difference between your MP experience last gen and this gen. Nothing else changed, maybe it should have, but it didn't. You and your friends are the ones that changed.So you think the premise is dumb...and then you go on to agree that the downfall in your online multiplayer activity this generation has been the lack of adoption by your peers of the new consoles? :hmm:
More platforms = increased likelihood your friends aren't playing on the same platform than you. Its that simple. You're assuming your friends are getting the xbox one...are you sure thats a safe assumption? Because in my case, it definitely wasn't.
Even if everyone gets the xbox one for the next halo game...what about the next third party game like destiny? Even if everyone owns all the platforms, that doesn't mean everyone wants to buy the game for the same platform. What if half your friends prefer the ps4, the other half prefer the xbox?
The only reason we can't buy a game and play with each other regardless of platforms is solely because that doesn't fit in with the business aspirations of competing companies. No one should be defending that.
No one is debating that you shouldn't be able to play the same game on either console together. But that doesn't make a difference for this gen. You (or your friends) made a decision last gen that you failed to make now. That is literally the only difference between your MP experience last gen and this gen. Nothing else changed, maybe it should have, but it didn't. You and your friends are the ones that changed.
I can see now from my wording why people keep saying this - I'm not blaming anything on the next generation per se. I'm not saying that MP will be dead on next gen consoles, or that there is anything different that next gen is doing specifically that's harming MP.
All I'm saying that the addition of two new platforms to the mix (without saying anything about them) is dividing people more than ever before, and that's a problem that's going to be around a while.
not really, because the ps3 and 360 will soon be gone from game development, which will then subtract the total from 2 platforms.
Why? There hasn't been any whispers of a new player, the big three have already shown their hands, and PC is pretty much where it has been since 2008. The only difference really is that the PS2 to PS3 was a big shift and the OG X was so short lived that people who cared made their transitions faster. But the same thing happens every cycle. New consoles come out after 2 to 3 years sales on games for the older cycle start to dry up. Developers bang heads against wall on limitations of older consoles when porting and eventually pull development for them. Sales of new consoles start increasing even more dramatically. Eventually people have settled on their new gen consoles. The consoles then start getting priced at $200-$300 and sales sky rocket and people forget about the previous gen.And that's presuming all that still matters in 3 years is Sony and Microsoft, and I don't believe that will be the case.
Why? There hasn't been any whispers of a new player, the big three have already shown their hands, and PC is pretty much where it has been since 2008. The only difference really is that the PS2 to PS3 was a big shift and the OG X was so short lived that people who cared made their transitions faster. But the same thing happens every cycle. New consoles come out after 2 to 3 years sales on games for the older cycle start to dry up. Developers bang heads against wall on limitations of older consoles when porting and eventually pull development for them. Sales of new consoles start increasing even more dramatically. Eventually people have settled on their new gen consoles. The consoles then start getting priced at $200-$300 and sales sky rocket and people forget about the previous gen.
It's the same every cycle. There isn't anything about this cycle that should make this cycle look any different.
PC is way more of a viable console replacement than ever before, steam big picture and SteamOS may push it further.
Amazon is dabbling more and more in gaming, buying up studios, they even sell a full blown console-style controller for the fireTV. Apple has yet to fully embrace TV gaming but considering that they care enough to develop a low level API for iOS, that's not out of the question.
Sony and MS are also dabbling in streaming, which takes the console completely out of the picture. And nintendo can always surprise us.
Remember, there was a time when nintendo and Sega ruled gaming, and Sony and MS weren't even in the picture. And they're already showing signs of slipping - the biggest games in the world aren't cod and madden....it's league of legends, minecraft and angry birds. Japan apparently doesn't give a damn about consoles anymore, and we might be next. I wouldn't presume things will play out exactly like they did in the past, so much has changed.
The games setting sales records aren't even on PC. Money talks. Billion dollar releases on consoles vs what? You think angry birds makes that kind of profit?
vs. MS buying minecraft for $2.5 billion.
vs Riot games (LoL) pulling in just shy of a billion last year.
The money will follow the players. It used to be that a game didn't make it big until it hit consoles, now the situation is reversed. There hasn't been a new billion dollar franchise driven by consoles in almost a decade. Their relevance to gaming should not be taken for granted.
Buying a company isn't the same as making a profit on the sales of a game. Rockstar made a billion on GTA 5 in 3 days on PS3 and 360. Halo 4 made 220million in 24hours on 360.
The games setting sales records aren't even on PC. Money talks. Billion dollar releases on consoles vs what? You think angry birds makes that kind of profit?