Next gen M cars. . .

[Vegito]

I hope the gas price isn't a problem when it hits 10/gallon

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: SilentZero
<--- Owner of a E46 M3, and 333hp is no where near enough! Hopefully the next M will push ~425

Amen. Much much too heavy for just 333hp.

It's 343BHp in the UK

Yeah it is a heavy car but it isn't an out and out racer. Just luxory sports car

Hey the NSX-R has only 280BHP and performs DAM WELL on the track against other cars. Sure it will lose in the straights but on a race rack cornering speeds count for A LOT. By race track I mean a track with more then 4 turns in it (was watching a lot of BMI at my mates place, those crazy Japanese drifters and drivers!)

More BHP would be nice but 343 sounds good to me

I really hope the new E90 M3 doesn't look the same as the current 2005 BMW cars. They look HORRIBLE with that dam ridge on the sides of the bonnet!

Koing

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

Well I don't think we are considering convenience when you are talking about a 600HP car either the M3 CSL is for hardcore BMW lovers, as same as Thinkpads for Big Blue Diehards such as myself LOL. The M3 CSL is made that way to save every bit of weight in it and that's the only way to do it.

ps : If you remember the TopGear episode then you also remember that the M3 CSL was 0.001 seconds away from pwning the porsche 911 Turbo GT2

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

 

[Koenigsegg]

The Z06 is for hardcore Corvette lovers too, but you can still drive it everyday.

 

[mitmot]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

that pic almost made me wet my pants

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

Well I don't think we are considering convenience when you are talking about a 600HP car either the M3 CSL is for hardcore BMW lovers, as same as Thinkpads for Big Blue Diehards such as myself LOL. The M3 CSL is made that way to save every bit of weight in it and that's the only way to do it.

ps : If you remember the TopGear episode then you also remember that the M3 CSL was 0.001 seconds away from pwning the porsche 911 Turbo GT2

The C6 Z06 would destroy the M3 CSL in pretty much any course. Though the CSL is impressive compared with the normal M3, it's still 360hp, 273 lb/ft torque at 3050 lbs. The only real advantage the CSL has over the Z06 is the motorsport tires.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

Well I don't think we are considering convenience when you are talking about a 600HP car either the M3 CSL is for hardcore BMW lovers, as same as Thinkpads for Big Blue Diehards such as myself LOL. The M3 CSL is made that way to save every bit of weight in it and that's the only way to do it.

ps : If you remember the TopGear episode then you also remember that the M3 CSL was 0.001 seconds away from pwning the porsche 911 Turbo GT2

The C6 Z06 would destroy the M3 CSL in pretty much any course. Though the CSL is impressive compared with the normal M3, it's still 360hp, 273 lb/ft torque at 3050 lbs. The only real advantage the CSL has over the Z06 is the motorsport tires.

dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: mitmot

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

that pic almost made me wet my pants

No shame in that , wet your pants AGAIN !!!!.

 

[luckysnafu]

Originally posted by: akubi
doh, i only have a 330i

Don't feel bad, I only have a 323i :frown:

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

Okay, BMW's 5L V10 weighs in at 530LBs, the Z06 7L V8 at 450. Both about 500HP. Get BMW to shave 80LBs and shrink the width to fit in the M3. I'm sure with all thier technological superiority they can out do a piece of antiquated technology from an inferior company that should just die, right? They should be able to make one for around the $65-85k range that the Z06 and Viper go for. Shouldn't be too hard. Should it?

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

Okay, BMW's 5L V10 weighs in at 530LBs, the Z06 7L V8 at 450. Both about 500HP. Get BMW to shave 80LBs and shrink the width to fit in the M3. I'm sure with all thier technological superiority they can out do a piece of antiquated technology from an inferior company that should just die, right? They should be able to make one for around the $65-85k range that the Z06 and Viper go for. Shouldn't be too hard. Should it?

FYI BMW is one of the smallest car manafacturers in the world production wise they don't have big markets as the corvette has in the USA, and they have a pretty good name that goes to before the WWII era so If you are complaining about the pricing , well that's what needs to be paid for the ultimate driving machine

No .

 

[randomlinh]

i'll take a new m3 if it's interior doesn't look so dated.. a couple of friends of mine have a 323is and 328is... old ass looking interior (and they are 99/00).

 

[Koenigsegg]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Audi S4 1.30.9
.
.
.
BMW M3 1.31.8

Even the regular regular Corvette dominates the CSL..1.26.8 to 1.28.0

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Audi S4 1.30.9
.
.
.
BMW M3 1.31.8

Even the regular regular Corvette dominates the CSL..1.26.8 to 1.28.0

No need to go to the theme park for this anymore :laugh:

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

Okay, BMW's 5L V10 weighs in at 530LBs, the Z06 7L V8 at 450. Both about 500HP. Get BMW to shave 80LBs and shrink the width to fit in the M3. I'm sure with all thier technological superiority they can out do a piece of antiquated technology from an inferior company that should just die, right? They should be able to make one for around the $65-85k range that the Z06 and Viper go for. Shouldn't be too hard. Should it?

Exactly. The M3's engine is very close to the dimensions and weight of the LS7 already. Unless you're (Linuxator) talking about something as useless as hp per liter, the M3's engine doesn't really have much practical size difference.

 

[BillyBatson]

the new M6 is supposedly going to be the most powerful production BMW ever made

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

Okay, BMW's 5L V10 weighs in at 530LBs, the Z06 7L V8 at 450. Both about 500HP. Get BMW to shave 80LBs and shrink the width to fit in the M3. I'm sure with all thier technological superiority they can out do a piece of antiquated technology from an inferior company that should just die, right? They should be able to make one for around the $65-85k range that the Z06 and Viper go for. Shouldn't be too hard. Should it?

Exactly. The M3's engine is very close to the dimensions and weight of the LS7 already. Unless you're (Linuxator) talking about something as useless as hp per liter, the M3's engine doesn't really have much practical size difference.

According to this page:
http://www.bmwworld.com/engines/m52.htm

A 1998 328's (2.8L) engine weighs in at about 400LBs.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Demon-Xanth

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
dude the M3 CSL has a 3.2 Liter engine and it's getting some insane output how would it be if it had an engine as big as the Z06 engine /

Okay, BMW's 5L V10 weighs in at 530LBs, the Z06 7L V8 at 450. Both about 500HP. Get BMW to shave 80LBs and shrink the width to fit in the M3. I'm sure with all thier technological superiority they can out do a piece of antiquated technology from an inferior company that should just die, right? They should be able to make one for around the $65-85k range that the Z06 and Viper go for. Shouldn't be too hard. Should it?

Exactly. The M3's engine is very close to the dimensions and weight of the LS7 already. Unless you're (Linuxator) talking about something as useless as hp per liter, the M3's engine doesn't really have much practical size difference.

According to this page:
http://www.bmwworld.com/engines/m52.htm

A 1998 328's (2.8L) engine weighs in at about 400LBs.

Sounds about right. I'd bet the much more complex 3.2L in the CSL isn't much heavier, perhaps only about 20 lbs. That means there's only a 30lb difference between the CSL's engine and the C6 Z06 engine.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Audi S4 1.30.9
.
.
.
BMW M3 1.31.8

Even the regular regular Corvette dominates the CSL..1.26.8 to 1.28.0

bah, thats one track

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Audi S4 1.30.9
.
.
.
BMW M3 1.31.8

Even the regular regular Corvette dominates the CSL..1.26.8 to 1.28.0

bah, thats one track

Indeed.

I can't believe how the NSX-R does so well against the R34's and other exotics (GT3, 360, etc).

Any of you guys watch BMI?

Koing

 

[Xionide]

e36 m3 with an s52 swap. TEH SEXORS!

 

[geno]

Originally posted by: Xionide
e36 m3 with an s52 swap. TEH SEXORS!

ooo, links?