Next gen M cars. . .

[Xionide]

Originally posted by: geno

Originally posted by: Xionide
e36 m3 with an s52 swap. TEH SEXORS!

ooo, links?

No links but I know the motor works in e36's. I believe it is the 321 hp m3 csl motor.

 

[secretanchitman]

500HP M5...

that is my favorite car in the whole wide world...even before i knew about BMW and its M division.

 

[The Linuxator]

But after all of that, with all honesty the BMW 850 CSI is the greatest car that ever came out of the Bavarian workhop period. Hail the 850 CSI

 

[Rickten]

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Koenigsegg

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: Rektide
Just shut up and drop a Chevy V8 into it.

Best part is that the E36 M3 had this huge iron I6 in it, iirc. WWwwaaayy to heavy for 240 hp. You could drop a massive aluminum V8 in, save 80-120 pounds and fly like the devil. Amazing.
I do not think that is true with the new M3's though. =]

Dude an M3 CSL would make any Chevy go hide. M3 CSL

At least you can drive a Corvette in the rain, through hot weather since it has an A/C, and there's actually music to listen to when you're driving.

Even on Top Gear, the CTS-V pwned the Audi S4 which in turn pwned the M3..though it was the non CSL version.. I imagine the V and CSL would be pretty close on a track.

which s4 'pwns' an m3...i'm curious...cause i dont recall any




rs4 on the other hand

http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonbbc2/laptimes/thestig/

Audi S4 1.30.9
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BMW M3 1.31.8

Even the regular regular Corvette dominates the CSL..1.26.8 to 1.28.0

I seem to recall jeremy saying the S4 was boring compared to the M3 and he would take the M3. AWD blah. I'd rather have rear wheel drive and let the back end break free a little bit.

 

[The Linuxator]

Corvette lovers I have seen it ALL !!!

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
But after all of that, with all honesty the BMW 850 CSI is the greatest car that ever came out of the Bavarian workhop period. Hail the 850 CSI

That, in turn, is the dumbest assertion that ever came out of a BMW enthusiast, period.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
But after all of that, with all honesty the BMW 850 CSI is the greatest car that ever came out of the Bavarian workhop period. Hail the 850 CSI

That, in turn, is the dumbest assertion that ever came out of a BMW enthusiast, period.

:laugh:

 

How much horsepower do you really need for a road car?
A fraction of them ever see the race track, yet everyone argues constantly about which car has more power.

 

[dethman]

i love my M.

puts a smile on my face each day.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Originally posted by: Xionide
e36 m3 with an s52 swap. TEH SEXORS!

Um FYI, the S52 engine was stock in all 96+ e36 M3's. I think you mean the s54 engine which is the one in the e46 M3.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: The Linuxator
But after all of that, with all honesty the BMW 850 CSI is the greatest car that ever came out of the Bavarian workhop period. Hail the 850 CSI

That, in turn, is the dumbest assertion that ever came out of a BMW enthusiast, period.

Allright Mr Smaty Pants you know that the same engine led to the Mclaren F1 1000 HP car right? And that the 850 CSI was tuned down by BMW because there wasn't a market for the car to be any more powerful, and as a member stated above not all the horsepower in a car is really taken advantage of , and therefor I don't see whats the problem on the 850 CSI it has much HP than a lot of ppl might need, got the hint ?

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: SampSon
How much horsepower do you really need for a road car?
A fraction of them ever see the race track, yet everyone argues constantly about which car has more power.

Me? I'll be happy with one hp (crank) pulling every 4.0 lbs of car. I'm easy to please though. As long as it's under 5 lbs per hp, I'll be reasonably satisfied.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Allright Mr Smaty Pants you know that the same engine led to the Mclaren F1 1000 HP car right? And that the 850 CSI was tuned down by BMW because there wasn't a market for the car to be any more powerful, and as a member stated above not all the horsepower in a car is really taken advantage of , and therefor I don't see whats the problem on the 850 CSI it has much HP than a lot of ppl might need, got the hint ?

There never was a 1000 bhp McLaren. The McLaren F1 road car (which I assume is what you're referring to) has 627 bhp. It does indeed share the same engine block with the 850CSi, but the engine puts out only 372 bhp in the 850, and the car weighs more than 4200 pounds.

Just to be clear, I have always liked the 850, and I apologize if I was unnecessarily snide. The 850 is, though, IMO, a rather flabby, overpriced GT car, which doesn't really embody the BMW tradition. To me, the E46 M3 is probably the best manifestation of what BMW is really about: straight-six, manual transmission, handsome, purposeful body, reasonable weight, and tremendous handling and overall performance.

 

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: SampSon
How much horsepower do you really need for a road car?
A fraction of them ever see the race track, yet everyone argues constantly about which car has more power.

Me? I'll be happy with one hp (crank) pulling every 4.0 lbs of car. I'm easy to please though. As long as it's under 5 lbs per hp, I'll be reasonably satisfied.

So for your typical 3000lb car, you would need at least 750bhp?

Right-o

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: SampSon
How much horsepower do you really need for a road car?
A fraction of them ever see the race track, yet everyone argues constantly about which car has more power.

Me? I'll be happy with one hp (crank) pulling every 4.0 lbs of car. I'm easy to please though. As long as it's under 5 lbs per hp, I'll be reasonably satisfied.

So for your typical 3000lb car, you would need at least 750bhp?

Right-o

Or a 2370lb car with a lot less hp.

It's an individual preference thing. Your tastes may differ. Below 5lbs per hp, stuff gets interesting fast.

 

[johnnqq]

you can squeeze 500hp out of a lot of engines. take a 7m gte for example. around 3 grand for the egine + 3 grand for mods=450 reliable hp (500 on high boost)

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Allright Mr Smaty Pants you know that the same engine led to the Mclaren F1 1000 HP car right? And that the 850 CSI was tuned down by BMW because there wasn't a market for the car to be any more powerful, and as a member stated above not all the horsepower in a car is really taken advantage of , and therefor I don't see whats the problem on the 850 CSI it has much HP than a lot of ppl might need, got the hint ?

There never was a 100 bhp McLaren. The McLaren F1 road car (which I assume is what you're referring to) has 627 bhp. It does indeed share the same engine block with the 850CSi, but the engine puts out only 372 bhp in the 850, and the car weighs more than 4200 pounds.

Just to be clear, I have always liked the 850, and I apologize if I was unnecessarily snide. The 850 is, though, IMO, a rather flabby, overpriced GT car, which doesn't really embody the BMW tradition. To me, the E46 M3 is probably the best manifestation of what BMW is really about: straight-six, manual transmission, handsome, purposeful body, reasonable weight, and tremendous handling and overall performance.

I agree with you, I share the same taste with you when it comes to the 3 series inline sixer manual, I loved those 3 series back in the 1970's as much as I love the 3 series the 8-series is more exotic than the 3 series, it's rare it stuns ppl from the first look I know it stunned me allright. But unfortunatley for the 8 series I have to be honest it's too heavy and too big to benefit from it's V12, and all that sweet technology that was made for it, it's no M3 but if I was offered either to have an M3 for free or an 850 CSI for free I admitt I will never make up my mind, the 8 series does convey the agressive BMW spirit and it's up toi my taste regardelss of HP 372 is more than enough IMHO but for the V12 it houses it's a bit of a disappointment.