Next move by Republicans: Pack the courts by adding 50% new positions, eliminating others

yllus

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It appears that while conservatives haven't much bothered to come up with plans to fix America's infrastructure, health care or drug crises, they have put a lot of thought into ensuring they keep the upper hand in politics for decades to come by any means necessary. The latest means is by enlarging the judicial branch enormously and electing young, safely conservative new judges while also eliminating some existing roles to again replace those folks with young conservatives. Another new low for democracy in the United States.

The Washington Post - Conservatives have a breathtaking plan for Trump to pack the courts

Conservatives have a new court-packing plan, and in the spirit of the holiday, it’s a turducken of a scheme: a regulatory rollback hidden inside a civil rights reversal stuffed into a Trumpification of the courts. If conservatives get their way, President Trump will add twice as many lifetime members to the federal judiciary in the next 12 months (650) as Barack Obama named in eight years (325). American law will never be the same.

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Trump is wasting no time in filling the 103 judicial vacancies he inherited. In the first nine months of Obama’s tenure, he nominated 20 judges to the federal trial and appellate courts; in Trump’s first nine months, he named 58. Senate Republicans are racing these nominees through confirmation; last week, breaking a 100-year-old tradition, they eliminated the “blue slip” rule that allowed home-state senators to object to particularly problematic nominees. The rush to Trumpify the judiciary includesnominees rated unqualified by the American Bar Association, nominees with outrageously conservative views and nominees significantly younger (and, therefore, likely to serve longer) than those of previous presidents. As a result, by sometime next year, 1 in 8 cases filed in federal court will be heard by a judge picked by Trump. Many of these judges will likely still be serving in 2050.

But even this plan — to fill approximately 150 judicial vacancies before the 2018 elections — is not enough for conservatives.

Enter the next element of the court-packing turducken: a new plan written by the crafty co-founder of the Federalist Society, Steven Calabresi. In a paper that deserves credit for its transparency (it features a section titled “Undoing President Barack Obama’s Judicial Legacy”), Calabresi proposes to pack the federal courts with a “minimum” of 260 — and possibly as many as 447 — newly created judicial positions. Under this plan, the 228-year-old federal judiciary would increase — in a single year — by 30 to 50 percent.

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Almost overnight, the judicial branch would come to consist of almost equal parts judges picked by nine presidents combined — Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama — and judges picked by one: Donald J. Trump. The effect on our civil rights and liberties would be astounding. And a continuation of the pattern of Trump’s nominees to date — more white and more male than any president’s in nearly 30 years — would roll back decades of progress in judicial diversity.

But even that isn’t enough for the Turducken Court Packers. They have jammed one more “treat” inside this turkey.

Calabresi has also proposed that Congress abolish 158 administrative law judgeships in federal regulatory agencies, such as the Environmental Protection Agency, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Securities and Exchange Commission, and replace these impartial fact-finders with a new corps of 158 Trump-selected judges who — unlike current administrative law judges — would serve for life.

These new Trump administrative law judges would have vast power over environmental, health and safety, fair competition, communications, labor, financial and consumer regulation for decades. Unlike the existing administrative law judges, selected as nonpartisan members of the civil service, Calabresi’s replacement corps would all be picked in a single year, by a single man: Donald J. Trump.

And if this breathtaking transformation of our federal judicial system isn’t jarring enough, Calabresi has one final treat: a proposal that Congress do all of this in the tax-cut bill that Congress is trying to pass before it leaves for the holidays.​
 
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ivwshane

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It appears that while conservatives haven't much bothered to come up with plans to fix America's infrastructure, health care or drug crises, they have put a lot of thought into ensuring they keep the upper hand in politics for decades to come by any means necessary. The latest means is by enlarging the judicial branch enormously and electing young, safely conservative new judges while also eliminating some existing roles to again replace those folks with young conservatives. Another new low for democracy in the United States.

The Washington Post - Conservatives have a breathtaking plan for Trump to pack the courts

Conservatives have a new court-packing plan, and in the spirit of the holiday, it’s a turducken of a scheme: a regulatory rollback hidden inside a civil rights reversal stuffed into a Trumpification of the courts. If conservatives get their way, President Trump will add twice as many lifetime members to the federal judiciary in the next 12 months (650) as Barack Obama named in eight years (325). American law will never be the same.

...

Trump is wasting no time in filling the 103 judicial vacancies he inherited. In the first nine months of Obama’s tenure, he nominated 20 judges to the federal trial and appellate courts; in Trump’s first nine months, he named 58. Senate Republicans are racing these nominees through confirmation; last week, breaking a 100-year-old tradition, they eliminated the “blue slip” rule that allowed home-state senators to object to particularly problematic nominees. The rush to Trumpify the judiciary includesnominees rated unqualified by the American Bar Association, nominees with outrageously conservative views and nominees significantly younger (and, therefore, likely to serve longer) than those of previous presidents. As a result, by sometime next year, 1 in 8 cases filed in federal court will be heard by a judge picked by Trump. Many of these judges will likely still be serving in 2050.

But even this plan — to fill approximately 150 judicial vacancies before the 2018 elections — is not enough for conservatives.

Enter the next element of the court-packing turducken: a new plan written by the crafty co-founder of the Federalist Society, Steven Calabresi. In a paper that deserves credit for its transparency (it features a section titled “Undoing President Barack Obama’s Judicial Legacy”), Calabresi proposes to pack the federal courts with a “minimum” of 260 — and possibly as many as 447 — newly created judicial positions. Under this plan, the 228-year-old federal judiciary would increase — in a single year — by 30 to 50 percent.

...

Almost overnight, the judicial branch would come to consist of almost equal parts judges picked by nine presidents combined — Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton, Bush 43 and Obama — and judges picked by one: Donald J. Trump. The effect on our civil rights and liberties would be astounding. And a continuation of the pattern of Trump’s nominees to date — more white and more male than any president’s in nearly 30 years — would roll back decades of progress in judicial diversity.

But even that isn’t enough for the Turducken Court Packers. They have jammed one more “treat” inside this turkey.

Calabresi has also proposed that Congress abolish 158 administrative law judgeships in federal regulatory agencies, such as the Environmental Protection Agency, Food and Drug Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Securities and Exchange Commission, and replace these impartial fact-finders with a new corps of 158 Trump-selected judges who — unlike current administrative law judges — would serve for life.

These new Trump administrative law judges would have vast power over environmental, health and safety, fair competition, communications, labor, financial and consumer regulation for decades. Unlike the existing administrative law judges, selected as nonpartisan members of the civil service, Calabresi’s replacement corps would all be picked in a single year, by a single man: Donald J. Trump.

And if this breathtaking transformation of our federal judicial system isn’t jarring enough, Calabresi has one final treat: a proposal that Congress do all of this in the tax-cut bill that Congress is trying to pass before it leaves for the holidays.​

Party before country. Remember that tyranny gun nutters plan on using overthrowing? Lol, not a peep from them on issues like these. Gerrymandering? Silence. Voter ID laws to make it harder for people to vote? Silence. Packing the courts with politically qualified versus qualified candidates? Silence. Giving corporations more power (such as the power to pollute)? Silence. An administration that has no problem publicity talking shit about our public institutions to our enemies? Silence.

Their silence is becoming deafening!
 
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Snarf Snarf

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Party before country. Remember that tyranny gun nutters plan on using overthrowing? Lol, not a peep from them on issues like these. Gerrymandering? Silence. Voter ID laws to make it harder for people to vote? Silence. Packing the courts with politically qualified versus qualified candidates? Silence. Giving corporations more power (such as the power to pollute)? Silence. An administration that has no problem publicity talking shit about our public institutions to our enemies? Silence.

Their silence is becoming deafening!

All of these are just the cost of being on the winning team. Easy to stomach when all you care about is whether your team wins or not.

So much winning.
 
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Zorba

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What I can't believe it's just how many Republicans will jump on this band wagon. I thought there would've been at least a few that had some integrity. But they are literally trying to end the United States as we know it.

Who would've thought the Bush/Cheney admin would be made to look good so soon.
 

Engineer

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Harry Reid made this possible. I know the GOP wouldn't let any of Obama's nominees through using the filibusterer but the GOP now has the power to ram these things through and not much to stop them. Of course, the GOP slipping things in right and left and then making enough noise in other areas so that people don't notice.
 
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Maxima1

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Harry Reid made this possible.

What they did was retarded because it was obvious the Democrats were on their way out. However, escalating it to the SC etc. by using it as cover was complete BS. There's no reason why Democrats shouldn't just pack the courts themselves to force reform when they get power back.

I know the GOP wouldn't let any of Obama's nominees through using the filibusterer but the GOP now has the power to ram these things through and not much to stop them. Of course, the GOP slipping things in right and left and then making enough noise in other areas so that people don't notice.

i don't see how the GOP wins on this. If they do it, the Democrats have no reason to hold back to force some kind of compromise.
 

Jhhnn

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Harry Reid made this possible. I know the GOP wouldn't let any of Obama's nominees through using the filibusterer but the GOP now has the power to ram these things through and not much to stop them. Of course, the GOP slipping things in right and left and then making enough noise in other areas so that people don't notice.

Filling vacancies is one thing. Completely reorganizing the federal judiciary is entirely another. Should the GOP actually attempt this they'll show everybody that they're not conservative at all.
 

Zorba

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Harry Reid made this possible. I know the GOP wouldn't let any of Obama's nominees through using the filibusterer but the GOP now has the power to ram these things through and not much to stop them. Of course, the GOP slipping things in right and left and then making enough noise in other areas so that people don't notice.
You think this current GOP Senate wouldn't have ditched the filibuster too? Considering they dumped it in like two seconds for the SC.
 
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Zorba

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Filling vacancies is one thing. Completely reorganizing the federal judiciary is entirely another. Should the GOP actually attempt this they'll show everybody that they're not conservative at all.
I want to know how they could possibly stick this into a reconciliation bill with taxes.
 
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I want to know how they could possibly stick this into a reconciliation bill with taxes.

That makes it easy, there will be so much noise made about this that most Americans will tune it out. Already its doing taxes and is very possibly going to do what they tried to do with health care. I already know people who regularly dismiss all the allegations by going "people are just saying everything over the top to try and get people against Trump" and then it happens and they go "WTF why didn't anybody tell us?"
 
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ivwshane

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Hopefully when he goes we can revert back to normalcy.

I'm not sure if you are aware but this shit didn't start under trump and it won't end when he's gone either. We have a party in control of government that is actively trying to destroy it and that isn't hyperbole.
 
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Jhhnn

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I'm not sure if you are aware but this shit didn't start under trump and it won't end when he's gone either. We have a party in control of government that is actively trying to destroy it and that isn't hyperbole.

Not quite. They're actively seeking to control govt regardless of the mood of the electorate & the will of the people.
 

ivwshane

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Not quite. They're actively seeking to control govt regardless of the mood of the electorate & the will of the people.

Uh, yeah, and they've been doing it for a while now. What do you think all the voter id laws were about? Why do you think they did the most comprehensive gerrymandering ever? Why do you think they obstructed Obama for both of his terms.

This shit is not new.
 

Jhhnn

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Uh, yeah, and they've been doing it for a while now. What do you think all the voter id laws were about? Why do you think they did the most comprehensive gerrymandering ever? Why do you think they obstructed Obama for both of his terms.

This shit is not new.

True, but an outright power grab wrt the federal judiciary would be far more brazen.
 

K1052

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Pretty much a conservative wet dream that can't be made to happen with the filibuster in place. Also doubtful some Rs would even want to go that far because something like this will beg for retaliation when they no longer hold a majority in congress and the WH which makes it an even harder lift with a slim Senate majority.
 

Jhhnn

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They outright stole a supreme court nomination! You think that was trumps doing?

No. Dunno why you put it in those terms. So far, this idea has not been introduced as legislation & will hopefully stay that way.
 

SlowSpyder

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Creating the excuses now for the failures in 2018, 2020, and future legislative failures? Everyone gets a trophy!
 
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