Nexus 7 (2nd gen)= OMG the screen is amazing!

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Staples

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How is the standby life of the 2013 Nexus 7? Every Android device I have had (2 phones, 2 tablets) lasted 3 days or less on a full charge. This kills me. The iPad can last weeks on a full charge without having to disable wifi, blutooth, etc.

And standby is defined as pressing the power button to turn off the screen and letting it sit idle for days.
 

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How is the standby life of the 2013 Nexus 7? Every Android device I have had (2 phones, 2 tablets) lasted 3 days or less on a full charge. This kills me. The iPad can last weeks on a full charge without having to disable wifi, blutooth, etc.

And standby is defined as pressing the power button to turn off the screen and letting it sit idle for days.

Does the net connection go to sleep as well? My Nexus 7 is set to stay on even during sleep.
 

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How is the standby life of the 2013 Nexus 7? Every Android device I have had (2 phones, 2 tablets) lasted 3 days or less on a full charge. This kills me. The iPad can last weeks on a full charge without having to disable wifi, blutooth, etc.

And standby is defined as pressing the power button to turn off the screen and letting it sit idle for days.

I'll try to remember to check tonight. I usually leave it plugged in overnight. Off to the top of my head, I think it lost something like 5-15% overnight. Definitely not in the iPad territory, which is like 2-3% overnight.

I'll try to do a more controlled test over the next couple of days and pass on the numbers.
 

Staples

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Does the net connection go to sleep as well? My Nexus 7 is set to stay on even during sleep.
Good question.

As far as I know, yes, it stays on. My current tablet is running Android 4.2.2 so it should have all the latest optimizations. If there is an option to turn off wifi during sleep, it really needs to be on by default. I bought Juice Defender long ago but have not used it in years. Maybe I should install that to see how it affects things.

I'll try to remember to check tonight. I usually leave it plugged in overnight. Off to the top of my head, I think it lost something like 5-15% overnight. Definitely not in the iPad territory, which is like 2-3% overnight.

I'll try to do a more controlled test over the next couple of days and pass on the numbers.
I'd be interested to see how much juice it looses in a 24 hour period. I am considering this tablet but because of the poor standby life of Android tablets, I am currently waiting for an iPad Mini with retena.
 

ss284

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Standby life is still terrible compared to iOS devices. I remember I could leave my first gen ipod touch in standby for over a month. My nexus 7 2013 must lose a good 15-20% every night.
 

Staples

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Standby life is still terrible compared to iOS devices. I remember I could leave my first gen ipod touch in standby for over a month. My nexus 7 2013 must lose a good 15-20% every night.

What a shame. A real deal breaker. Guess I will be waiting a bit longer for that iPad Mini with retina, especially if the rumors of the Mini 2 not having retina are true. (not that I really believe that any of these rumors have any merit).
 

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Standby life is still terrible compared to iOS devices. I remember I could leave my first gen ipod touch in standby for over a month. My nexus 7 2013 must lose a good 15-20% every night.

thats seems very high. my 7 (og) lasts close to 2 weeks with minimal use

however its not all the difficult to plug it in at night
 
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Good question.

As far as I know, yes, it stays on. My current tablet is running Android 4.2.2 so it should have all the latest optimizations. If there is an option to turn off wifi during sleep, it really needs to be on by default. I bought Juice Defender long ago but have not used it in years. Maybe I should install that to see how it affects things.


I'd be interested to see how much juice it looses in a 24 hour period. I am considering this tablet but because of the poor standby life of Android tablets, I am currently waiting for an iPad Mini with retena.

But why does that need to be a compromise? Wifi should stay on forever IMO. My iPad's Wifi would stay on all day long and lose 1-2% a day TOPS while providing all the notifications that I need.

Standby life is still terrible compared to iOS devices. I remember I could leave my first gen ipod touch in standby for over a month. My nexus 7 2013 must lose a good 15-20% every night.

You might want to check your app settings because your tablet shouldn't be losing 15-20% nightly. That's like a TouchPad with poor wifi optimizations
 

vshah

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my 2012 n7 lasts a week easily, mostly used for reading ebooks. loses maybe 5% overnight and I end up with 6-10 hours of screen on time.
 

Staples

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But why does that need to be a compromise? Wifi should stay on forever IMO. My iPad's Wifi would stay on all day long and lose 1-2% a day TOPS while providing all the notifications that I need.

Oh, I don't agree with it but if itt helps in my case, then it is worth a shot.
 

Lyfer

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What a shame. A real deal breaker. Guess I will be waiting a bit longer for that iPad Mini with retina, especially if the rumors of the Mini 2 not having retina are true. (not that I really believe that any of these rumors have any merit).

You must live in a cabin in the mountains with no power. I tried pursuading my wife so hard to wait for a new iPad mini as well but we all know its gonna be at least a $120 premium over the nexus.
 

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But why does that need to be a compromise? Wifi should stay on forever IMO. My iPad's Wifi would stay on all day long and lose 1-2% a day TOPS while providing all the notifications that I need.

Hmm, I did some searching and from what I've read in iOS 6 there is no persistent Wifi? Apprently Apple disabled it cause it was in iOS 4 & 5? I don't have an iPad to confirm this though.

Anyhow, I will charge up my Nexus 7 and see how long it lasts on standby.
 

openwheel

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My Nexus 7 loses 3% over night (wifi and gps always on). I don't leave anything running, all apps are closed. Only widget is Google Now.

Close to 9 hours of screen on time with auto dimming (mostly Chrome and Tapatalk).

Not that difficult.
 

jiffylube1024

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I'll try to remember to check tonight. I usually leave it plugged in overnight. Off to the top of my head, I think it lost something like 5-15% overnight. Definitely not in the iPad territory, which is like 2-3% overnight.

I'll try to do a more controlled test over the next couple of days and pass on the numbers.

OK, I was way off. First datum to report:

Nexus 7 (2013) unplugged at 5:47pm, 100% charge

Just checked now - 12:30am 99% charge. It's been unplugged for 6 hrs, 43 mins. Much better than I thought.

I'll post in tomorrow with its 24h stats. So far looks promising!
 

ChronoReverse

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LOL that's so far off it's practically slander =P

I was going to comment on how that's worse than my Touchpad which was notable for bad standby time. Even my phone with all its radios does better than that =)
 
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Okay, but watching it drop from 100% to 99% isn't really accurate. I've seen my N4 for example drop 1% overnight, and then drop another 6% in the next 2 hours. So what does that tell you? That the battery meter is most likely not that accurate. I don't think its wise taking just a few data points and then extrapolating for the entire 100% range of the battery.
 

Staples

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I agree that a real test would be run 24 hours on standby but I am sure most people use their tablet everyday so this unscientific result is probably the best we are going to get. We should take it with a grain of salt.
 

openwheel

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1% drop last night on my Nexus 7 FHD. From 45 to 44. I turned off GPS this time and clicked "wifi on only when charging".

No can do on the 24 hour standby test. This tablet is too good to be left along for 24 hours straight.
 

ss284

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I turned off wifi while sleeping as well as BT and GPS. Hopefully results are better tonight.
 

ChronoReverse

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Okay, but watching it drop from 100% to 99% isn't really accurate. I've seen my N4 for example drop 1% overnight, and then drop another 6% in the next 2 hours. So what does that tell you? That the battery meter is most likely not that accurate. I don't think its wise taking just a few data points and then extrapolating for the entire 100% range of the battery.

That's true. In particular, the first 10% is extremely inaccurate. I find if I have to extrapolate, doing it from 90% down is better.
 

Tom

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im more impressed with how thin it is!
its amazing how much tech they squeezed in this new nexus 7. and yes, the screen is stunning!

my sis was thinking of getting an ipod touch 32gb for $300.
then she saw the nexus 7 and asked why is it cheaper and does so much more?
its a no brainer what she chose after she saw the screen too :-D

It doesn't do "so much more" than a 5th gen ipod Touch. What do you mean ?

The Touch is overpriced but I managed to get a used one for $180 and its a great small device. Obviously its much much more portable than a Nexus 7.
 

Chiropteran

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Does nobody else plug in their device to recharge at night? I find it annoying to use a tablet while plugged into a charger, so recharging over night is the perfect time. Why 100% idle power usage is such a big issue, I have no idea.
 

Lyfer

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Does nobody else plug in their device to recharge at night? I find it annoying to use a tablet while plugged into a charger, so recharging over night is the perfect time. Why 100% idle power usage is such a big issue, I have no idea.

Exactly. All my devices are plugged in near my power ranger night light during bed time.
 
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