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Captante

Lifer
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So far I like what I see from Jackson.... there have been several plays where I was sure he would take off and run prematurely but he hung in and instead got a completion.

EDIT: LOL @ the Chicago secondary!
 

Captante

Lifer
Oct 20, 2003
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Only the Bills can make me cheer for Baltimore.

I like the Ravens and the Bills actually.... Baltimore because I just can't root for anyone else in that division though.

And holy crap.... it is NOT the Bills day!
 
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manly

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yeah, I don't think you understand the ratio of what I'm talking about here, when I mean "horrific." And yes, I fully expected some jamoke to come and here and toss some legendary split bones and hips or whatever.

Yes, we all know about those. It's terrible to watch. it's painful and uncomfortable...it's, eh, broken bones. This isn't the fucking 2nd Dynasty of fucking Egypt when you fully expected someone to die from that, pretty damn soon. Even like, a Pharaoh with their then-omnipotent power...

Bones look nasty but there is nothing horrific about any of those. Not even close.

This was pretty much very to close to watching an upper vertebra shatter and shrapnel through skull, or some crazy shit with the why his brain stem pretty much shut down for a couple of seconds, and did a fucking cache clear, and lucky, very fucking lucky, seems to have rebounded a bit?

I dunno, we haven't heard much, really. I'm still hazy about what kind of mush is left up there right now.

Point is--it was like possibly watching a dude kill another dude on TV.
and I would not be surprised if at this point with the kind of hits he has taken from his college career to now, that dude is might be dealing with some Parkinson's like symptoms at a pretty terrifyingly early age.



and lol, no--that was not really clean. There was a bit of slinging going on there. You can't turn a QB into your shotput hammer, lol.
We know that Theismann's career was actually ended on that play. Michael Irvin's career-ending hit was quite scary as well.

I already conceded that head injuries are indeed "scarier" but the sack wasn't very noteworthy. Yes the DL completed the tackle by slinging him to the ground, but his head didn't even bounce off the turf like last Sunday. QBs get preferential treatment by the refs, so it's more likely than not that a dirty tackle would have resulted in a penalty. The real problem is that he was most likely already concussed, but we don't know if the Fins played fast and loose with the concussion protocol.

Your talk about a guy killing another guy on live TV is umm... rather hyperbolic (and makes the media's breathless overreaction seem tame in comparison). Unless Tua has a particularly nasty concussion that lingers for weeks/months, he'll return before month's end. It's for him to decide if he'd rather retire early to avoid long-term CTE. Or if he would rather play for a $200M contract extension. My guess would be the latter. Tua played at Bama behind most likely a dominant O-line. I don't watch much CFB, but I don't recall him getting his bell rung in college.

Honestly, you're literally jumping to wild conclusions that Tua is halfway to vegetable status already. Somehow that makes me the jamoke lol.
 

MrSquished

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I did say closer not "exactly" .... and until recently I'd been a Lamar-apologist.

Unless he somehow changes his game completely and becomes an accurate pocket-passer with a scary run-threat on the side we may have already seen the best of Jackson. (I'd still take him in a flash over Twinkle-toes Jones though!)
Anybody would take Jackson over Jones.

But those twinkle toes basically are the only reason we were in the game last week. Not just from evading constant pressure behind the worst offensive line in the league, But running for like seven first downs.

What does he have two TDs with those twinkle toes today? Averaging over 10 yd per carry? Again carrying the team on his back with Barkley, no offensive line, barely any receivers, and a defense that's mediocre.
 

BoomerD

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Anybody would take Jackson over Jones.

But those twinkle toes basically are the only reason we were in the game last week. Not just from evading constant pressure behind the worst offensive line in the league, But running for like seven first downs.

What does he have two TDs with those twinkle toes today? Averaging over 10 yd per carry? Again carrying the team on his back with Barkley, no offensive line, barely any receivers, and a defense that's mediocre.

Lamar Jackson suffers from the same "I can be the hero" syndrome that Michael Vick, RGIII, and Colin Crapernick had. Yes, Jackson seems to be a bit better than any of those...and has a better O-line to protect him...for now, but it doesn't always work...or last.
 

Captante

Lifer
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Anybody would take Jackson over Jones.

But those twinkle toes basically are the only reason we were in the game last week. Not just from evading constant pressure behind the worst offensive line in the league, But running for like seven first downs.

What does he have two TDs with those twinkle toes today? Averaging over 10 yd per carry? Again carrying the team on his back with Barkley, no offensive line, barely any receivers, and a defense that's mediocre.


I get it.... you like Daniel Jones. (he's better than Fields I'll give you that much!)

I picked the Giants to win today but this one is up in the air.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Lamar Jackson suffers from the same "I can be the hero" syndrome that Michael Vick, RGIII, and Colin Crapernick had. Yes, Jackson seems to be a bit better than any of those...and has a better O-line to protect him...for now, but it doesn't always work...or last.
Hero ball.

If Lamar had an o line and receivers like Jones has and has had, we wouldn't be talking about him.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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Hero ball.

If Lamar had an o line and receivers like Jones has and has had, we wouldn't be talking about him.

HOWEVER Jackson despite his past shortcomings (especially in big games) is a vastly better NFL QB then Jones is right now even saying "if all else is equal".
 

manly

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Can anyone explain to me BAL not kicking the go-ahead FG with 4 mins to go? The defense was playing well in the quarter, and taking the lead seemed like a no-brainer. If you go up 23-20, and then you can't stop Josh Allen from driving the field for a TD, you deserve to lose anyway.

Not to mention they should have let the Bills score with about 1:40 remaining in the game. Does John Harbaugh take coaching lessons from Mike McCarthy?
 

JujuFish

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What interests me in the game against vs Buffalo is just how much the Bills defense has actually regressed. (sorry but I'm not concerned about Josh Allen!)
The Bills' defense has been riddled with injuries. Going into last week against Miami, they were down both safeties (one is done for the season), both corners, and their top DT on defense alone. This week, they got a safety and corner back, but also lost the corner who's been starting in Tre White's absence. I hope they're able to get healthy for the playoffs.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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The Bills' defense has been riddled with injuries. Going into last week against Miami, they were down both safeties (one is done for the season), both corners, and their top DT on defense alone. This week, they got a safety and corner back, but also lost the corner who's been starting in Tre White's absence. I hope they're able to get healthy for the playoffs.

Hence the regression! (plus they lost some people from last year)

They stood tall when it counted though.... with some help from Harbaugh!

 

zinfamous

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We know that Theismann's career was actually ended on that play. Michael Irvin's career-ending hit was quite scary as well.

I already conceded that head injuries are indeed "scarier" but the sack wasn't very noteworthy. Yes the DL completed the tackle by slinging him to the ground, but his head didn't even bounce off the turf like last Sunday. QBs get preferential treatment by the refs, so it's more likely than not that a dirty tackle would have resulted in a penalty. The real problem is that he was most likely already concussed, but we don't know if the Fins played fast and loose with the concussion protocol.

Your talk about a guy killing another guy on live TV is umm... rather hyperbolic (and makes the media's breathless overreaction seem tame in comparison). Unless Tua has a particularly nasty concussion that lingers for weeks/months, he'll return before month's end. It's for him to decide if he'd rather retire early to avoid long-term CTE. Or if he would rather play for a $200M contract extension. My guess would be the latter. Tua played at Bama behind most likely a dominant O-line. I don't watch much CFB, but I don't recall him getting his bell rung in college.

Honestly, you're literally jumping to wild conclusions that Tua is halfway to vegetable status already. Somehow that makes me the jamoke lol.

It's one thing to end your career and go off to a life of like, archery hobbying, like Bo Jackson. It's another thing to be made a quadriplegic or even worse. There's just a titanic difference with these types of injuries.

And yeah, sorry, I didn't really mean to call you out specifically, lol. It's pretty clear that most anyone is going to look at nasty bone breaks and generate a much more visceral reaction to it. That's not what I'm talking about, though--there are degrees of seriousness and none of those famous bone injuries can come close to touching the sort of brain-souping that Tua was put through over the last couple of weeks. It's time we actually start acknowledging this truth.

I think Tua is very lucky, whatever that means right now. I also recall that at Bama, he lost like 1.5 seasons because he broke both of his ankles or something? He took over Hurts' job, Hurts stepped back in when Tua went down even though he was informed quite plainly that it's Tua's job. Hurts transferred anyway, after that...I think Ohio State? I forget. I don't follow CFB that much either, but I do remember Hurts being quite awesome for 1 or 2 seasons, then this Tua guy shows up, displaces him, gets injured after like 3 games, and somehow is still the guy when he comes back the next year? I never understood that, lol.

There's a reason we only ever see a handful of veterans--especially among QBs and RBs and lineman--that have any kind of public career after the NFL. The vast majority of them end up with bodies that function about as well as your average 80 year-old, by the time they retire in their late 40s.

The NFL and their TV sponsors have long controlled this narrative because they really don't won't us seeing these walking science experiments that they create for our entertainment.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Did you see the final score? That's all that matters.
It not my problem that team built up a history to the point their own fans cooked up that term.


But please, do let me know when the Chargers win the Super Bowl or at least, usurp the Chiefs as the top team in that division.
 
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