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Lifer
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Any kind of serious rib-injury for Herbert is an extremely big problem for the Chargers. Unless they're exaggerating the severity of the injury SD is in some serious trouble for the whole '22 season.
Not sure what you're referring to; the Chargers are calling his status day to day. In other words, they've dodged a bullet. No rib fracture was reported, and IIRC the NFL is fairly strict about lying on injury reports. Herbert will likely play with some type of wrap/pad protecting his torso, but I'd almost argue you can beat the Jags next week with Chase Daniel starting instead.

I think Staley played it more "traditional" on 4th down because he trusts he defense more. From what I saw I think he made the right calls. The only one I really think he blew was the one with the pick six. The TE was clearly gassed...should have paused even if it meant giving the defense a chance to regroup a bit.

As to whether he should have pulled Herbert. I don't know. But if he can walk out next Sunday he'll play. I mean I know he's good but walking back out on the field showed real toughness.

#Boltup
Staley was okay at managing the game flow; it was just funny because last season he was the ultimate riverboat gambler on 4th downs. I thought it cost the Chargers some key games, but the overall 4th down conversion rate was actually excellent.

Yeah it was shocking how they handled that 1st and goal at the 3. Everett was gesturing to get pulled; you'd think at least the OC or one of his underlings would have seen that. Not to mention players or coaches on the field of play. Going hurry up and then targeting Everett cost them the game IMO. Even if he wasn't gassed, I'd pound the rock 2 (or 3) times from the 3 yard line. The run game wasn't going great statistically, but Ekeler was doing enough to keep the defense honest.

Remember that Herbert went out for one play, was evaluated by medical staff, and then allowed to check back in. Then he was hit hard again and that's when he was clearly in a lot of pain. According to ESPN's Gamecast, the Chargers were about 3% to win with 3 minutes to go. In week 2, the risk/reward of trying to realize your 3% equity just isn't there. If this was the 17th game for a playoff spot, or the margin was 7 points, I would understand the decision. I agree there's something to be said about a young QB showing toughness to his teammates, but the HC has to override that desire.
 
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Captante

Lifer
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I had not seen the final update when I posted the above.... even so rib-injuries are really painful and all it takes is one good shot in the same place to KO him again. (padding can only do so much!)
 

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Lifer
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Not sure what you're referring to; the Chargers are calling his status day to day. In other words, they've dodged a bullet. No rib fracture was reported, and IIRC the NFL is fairly strict about lying on injury reports. Herbert will likely play with some type of wrap/pad protecting his torso, but I'd almost argue you can beat the Jags next week with Chase Daniel starting instead.


Staley was okay at managing the game flow; it was just funny because last season he was the ultimate riverboat gambler on 4th downs. I thought it cost the Chargers some key games, but the overall 4th down conversion rate was actually excellent.

Yeah it was shocking how they handled that 1st and goal at the 3. Everett was gesturing to get pulled; you'd think at least the OC or one of his underlings would have seen that. Not to mention players or coaches on the field of play. Going hurry up and then targeting Everett cost them the game IMO. Even if he wasn't gassed, I'd pound the rock 2 (or 3) times from the 3 yard line. The run game wasn't going great statistically, but Ekeler was doing enough to keep the defense honest.

Remember that Herbert went out for one play, was evaluated by medical staff, and then allowed to check back in. Then he was hit hard again and that's when he was clearly in a lot of pain. According to ESPN's Gamecast, the Chargers were about 3% to win with 3 minutes to go. In week 2, the risk/reward of trying to realize your 3% equity just isn't there. If this was the 17th game for a playoff spot, or the margin was 7 points, I would understand the decision. I agree there's something to be said about a young QB showing toughness to his teammates, but the HC has to override that desire.
Day-to-day is gamesmanship plus painkillers. This league had to be lawsuit'd into its concussion protocol and many players obviously try to play when not 100%; you can as Saquon, Zeke, and a whole host of others....

Herbert is going to be wishing he was dead on Mondays. Ribs are nasty painful.
 
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KMFJD

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center and both starting guards are out and Lions still ran for 180yards,Amon Ra still on fire, Hutchinson with 3 sack in the 1st half for a Lions win

/Trey Lance's leg went the wrong way he is out for the year from the looks of the replay
 
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That Dolphins-Ravens game had so many big plays. Tua loving Hill. Jackson making the Ravens look foolish for not paying him.

And all Yahoo Sports cares about is Brady being a punkass and instigating a fight.

I think Staley played it more "traditional" on 4th down because he trusts he defense more. From what I saw I think he made the right calls. The only one I really think he blew was the one with the pick six. The TE was clearly gassed...should have paused even if it meant giving the defense a chance to regroup a bit.

As to whether he should have pulled Herbert. I don't know. But if he can walk out next Sunday he'll play. I mean I know he's good but walking back out on the field showed real toughness.

#Boltup

Toughness that could alter your career.

If you're the QB you make a fuss to be in the game, but the HC should overrule it. Will look good to the rest of the team. QB fighting, but HC being rational and putting things in perspective. This wasn't Elway in the Super Bowl, there's no need for wanton disregard for your start QBs health. This could come back to bite them.

...I'd almost argue you can beat the Jags next week with Chase Daniel starting instead.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
 
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center and both starting guards are out and Lions still ran for 180yards,Amon Ra still on fire, Hutchinson with 3 sack in the 1st half for a Lions win

/Trey Lance's leg went the wrong way he is out for the year from the looks of the replay

Ouch!

Well I guess at least it makes things easy for 49ers coach/front office and they won't have to answer questions about how they've gone about QBs for the rest of the season.
 

brianmanahan

Lifer
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i can't believe the browns blew what should've been a 14-point game in 2 minutes against the jets

but then again, i totally can believe it

the only consolation is that both the ravens and steelers managed to lose this week too
 
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Torn Mind

Lifer
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center and both starting guards are out and Lions still ran for 180yards,Amon Ra still on fire, Hutchinson with 3 sack in the 1st half for a Lions win

/Trey Lance's leg went the wrong way he is out for the year from the looks of the replay

Amon-Ra is an EGYPTIAN GOD CARD. The Winged Dragon of Ra.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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i can't believe the browns blew what should've been a 14-point game in 2 minutes against the jets

but then again, i totally can believe it

the only consolation is that both the ravens and steelers managed to lose this week too
Should write a ploam about the tragedy of the Browns.
 

MrSquished

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Giants 2-0. Not a pretty win but 2-0 is nice. Big Blue is resilient mentally so far - they are buying into Daboll. Jones has no receivers to throw to besides Shephard, the rest are nobodies and he is always under pressure. Barkley is being decisive but the majority of time today had no holes. Considering we are missing our top 2 pass rushers and have no cornerbacks, not too shabby.
 
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pete6032

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i can't believe the browns blew what should've been a 14-point game in 2 minutes against the jets

but then again, i totally can believe it

the only consolation is that both the ravens and steelers managed to lose this week too
Elite Joe Flacco throwing 4 TDs 300+ yds.
 
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Ken g6

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I think that was the most aggravating Broncos win I've ever seen.

If the crowd starts counting down the play clock to try to help you avoid delay of game penalties...you might have a problem.

If you're missing a man on your punt return team...and that man is your punt returner...you might have a problem. (You had one job!!!)
 
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