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Muse

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So.... who do you think Philly will be facing in two weeks?
I thought that unnecessary roughness call on the Mahomes run that set up the field goal was bullshit. I think referees call that way too often. A defender is running 15-20 mph at the runner and hits him a foot or two OB. It's usually not like he was trying to hurt the guy, he was trying to get him OB to save some field position. You can't change your trajectory in 1/5th of a second when you're running full speed. You also can't be expected to know exactly where the sideline is when you are focused on the runner. The league should really look into the rules concerning those calls. If the defender is obviously malicious, that's one thing, but just because the contact is a foot or two beyond the sideline should not be enough to warrant a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down. That particular play did not IMO warrant that call. And it pretty much decided who's going to the SB.

I say this not because of just this play. I've thought this for years. So many of those calls are bullshit. I think the referees often don't have a feel for the laws of physics, they just apply a (stupid) rule they've memorized. It's not a video game, this is real life.
 
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I thought that unnecessary roughness call on the Mahomes run that set up the field goal was bullshit. I think referees call that way too often. A defender is running 15-20 mph at the runner and hits him a foot or two OB. It's usually not like he was trying to hurt the guy, he was trying to get him OB to save some field position. You can't change your trajectory in 1/5th of a second when you're running full speed. You also can't be expected to know exactly where the sideline is when you are focused on the runner. The league should really look into the rules concerning those calls. If the defender is obviously malicious, that's one thing, but just because the contact is a foot or two beyond the sideline should not be enough to warrant a 15 yard penalty and automatic first down. That particular play did not IMO warrant that call. And it pretty much decided who's going to the SB.
I think it boils down to whether there was sufficient delay for the defender to think he wasn't surely out of bounds. I kinda understand how someone may have committed to an act and the "pull back" wasn't in time, but humans can also be very quick processors when it comes to split second decisions.

The call was strictly made but the hit was definitely illegal and shoves when going at a high speed can cause injury, even if we ignore Mahomes already-present injury. It just looks light on TV, similar to slashes in hockey.
 
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In addition to being an Eagles fan so glad they beat the 49ers because of Nick Bosa. That guy is a class A jackass. He tweeted

“Philly is where the election was stolen from Trump”

Fuck him. Hey Nick, take your country redneck ass back home
He really said that? Link? That would be really dumb.
 

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Lifer
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Al Davis was a pioneer in giving voice and power to minorities. But I guess he was kind of an asshole.
It's oftentimes good business to turn a blind eye towards irrelevant features. But he was the boss and shoved out whatever he didn't want. And well, he had ideals...40 time mattered a lot .
 

HomerJS

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He really said that? Link? That would be really dumb.

I’ll find it. I saw a few memes and then stories from back in 2019. His agent had his social media scrubbed because he was going to San Fran. Which is smart of the agent

He also several times liked sites that were racist


Is girlfriend is just like him

 

HomerJS

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He really said that? Link? That would be really dumb.

He was quoted in a tweet. He doesn’t do social media anymore because it reminds people he is a racist and a homophobe. Didn’t know that about him because never paid attention to the 49ers

He’s the Riley Cooper of their team who fortunately for him has a smart agent. I found lots of stories people didn’t want him because of this.

Now I can go back to not caring


In case you don’t get my reference just Google

Eagles
Riley Cooper
Racist
 

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Lifer
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Weird game. Weird calls
A Tweet I just saw: "Im not saying the refs got that late hit call wrong, but the refs are supposed to call the game, not decide the game. "

I AM saying that late hit call was wrong.
 

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I think it boils down to whether there was sufficient delay for the defender to think he wasn't surely out of bounds. I kinda understand how someone may have committed to an act and the "pull back" wasn't in time, but humans can also be very quick processors when it comes to split second decisions.

The call was strictly made but the hit was definitely illegal and shoves when going at a high speed can cause injury, even if we ignore Mahomes already-present injury. It just looks light on TV, similar to slashes in hockey.
But you can make a decision and not be able to execute it. The watch on the Titanic saw it was headed for an iceberg but they couldn't change the course of the ship in time to miss it. Same principle.
 

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In addition to being an Eagles fan so glad they beat the 49ers because of Nick Bosa. That guy is a class A jackass. He tweeted

“Philly is where the election was stolen from Trump”

Fuck him. Hey Nick, take your country redneck ass back home
Joey got heckled pretty badly in the stands, too. Class act, both of them.
 
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That out of bounds shove in the back of Mahomes especially @ that critical moment of a playoff game has to be one of the stupidest moves I've ever seen in a playoff game.

It was 100% a blatant foul, had to be called and what's more WILL be called nearly every single time. The 49ers screwed themselves hard with penalties and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

 
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woodman1999

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The 49ers screwed themselves hard with penalties and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Absolutely some awful moves on there part throughout the game. I will say though, the two penalties on punts early in the game kind of set a tone of which way the refs were going to call this one. Philly absolutely roughed the kicker vs. ran into the kicker. Mike Perrera (no clue on spelling his last name) said so on there. And then later, the Eagles benefitted from a roughing the kicker call, that, from what I could see, certainly should not have been called. The angles they showed on TV certainly made it look like the SF player was blocked into the punter, which I believe should result in a no call. Not saying these would have changed the game, but still, kind of blatant misses in my opinion.

Tough to overcome injuries to your two QBs and some boneheaded plays though. Fortunately, based on who is playing in that game, my Super Bowl weekend just freed up completely. I have no interest in watching either of those teams celebrate a win.
 
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That out of bounds shove in the back of Mahomes especially @ that critical moment of a playoff game has to be one of the stupidest moves I've ever seen in a playoff game.

It was 100% a blatant foul, had to be called and what's more WILL be called nearly every single time. The 49ers screwed themselves hard with penalties and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Totally. That was one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen. They should call that every time. There have been a lot of bone-headed roughing the passer calls this season but this was not one of them, and I think this was just an unnecessary roughness penalty anyway. You can't hit a guy when he's already got a foot out of bounds and have him fly 10 ft into almost the bench.

That guy's an idiot
 
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dlerious

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As hard as it is to bet against Mahomes, I'll pick the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. The Chiefs struggled in their 2 playoff games while the Eagles looked like champions. KC play calling was odd at times - the pass and lateral early in the game and the 3 incomplete passes after the first INT before half where they needed about 8 yards for FG try and end up watching the Bengals drive and score before half.
 
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akugami

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Watching eagles fans cheer when someone gets injured is all I need to know about the fans.

There are just as much trashy fans in every fanbase as there are in Philadelphia.

At this point, due to bad reputation, every bad Eagle's fan reaction is blown up to the umpteenth degree. And I've seen similar bad reactions from other fanbases barely get a blip on the radar.
 

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Fortunately, based on who is playing in that game, my Super Bowl weekend just freed up completely. I have no interest in watching either of those teams celebrate a win.
If I don't like the result I often just turn off the TV and don't subject myself to my hated team's celebration antics.
 

thestrangebrew1

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The 49ers screwed themselves hard with penalties and they have nobody to blame but themselves.

This. That game was frustrating to watch. Even if Purdy didn't go down or the Smith "catch" was reversed, Philly's D line was dominant. I don't think we could've done much better tbh. The Eagles were opportunistic and took advantage of the situation.
 
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RPD

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This. That game was frustrating to watch. Even if Purdy didn't go down or the Smith "catch" was reversed, Philly's D line was dominant. I don't think we could've done much better tbh. The Eagles were opportunistic and took advantage of the situation.
4th string QB, wasn't happening in any way shape or form. But I will say last few years O line always looks like hot dog shit in big games. We can run well all season, except for you know when the season is on the line or we need that critical less than 3 yards for a first.
 

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Totally. That was one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen. They should call that every time. There have been a lot of bone-headed roughing the passer calls this season but this was not one of them, and I think this was just an unnecessary roughness penalty anyway. You can't hit a guy when he's already got a foot out of bounds and have him fly 10 ft into almost the bench.

That guy's an idiot
It was a clear penalty, and should be called every time. For good or bad, the NFL goes out of its way to protect QBs and this was a no-brainer (and even if it was a different offensive player than QB). The people complaining are those who think the refs should swallow their whistles at the end of games and let the players play. While that sounds fine in theory, you're left with debacles such as the infamous no PI call on the Rams vs Saints a few years ago. Ironically, although that led to PI becoming challenge-able; in practice challenging PIs didn't really pan out and was scrapped within a couple seasons.

I'm sure some guys who are complaining about the penalty against Ossai also complained when the Rams were gifted that playoff game a few years back. Also note that as Ossai delivers the fateful hit (Mahomes had TWO feet out), the DB who was already within the sideline had pulled up to avoid contacting Mahomes.

I do agree that some of the penalties against defenders getting to the QB behind the line of scrimmage are "bang-bang" and favor QBs too much. However, this was definitely not one of those situations whatsoever.

As for the Super Bowl, I believe in regression to the mean and for that reason and others, I give a small edge to KC.
 
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