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Lifer
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Ugh, Olsen (but then again looking at the dumbshit takes on here not surprised) arguing to not call the clear penalty there. Maybe the DB shouldn't commit the penalty if you don't want it to go like that? Blatantly grabbing a receiver's jersey then still wrapping your arm around him is gonna get called. Well except for the times earlier in the game where they let Phily get away with it. Guess that's why you people are pissing and moaning?
I don't know why everyone else is so salty; I agree with you that NBA-style "swallowing the whistle" isn't good for the game. As you pointed out, the CB actually clutched Smith-Schuster twice on that release. That definitely disrupted the timing of the route.

Now I'm not saying fans should be happy that the call was so pivotal, but like you said even Bradberry confessed to the crime. IMO the Eagles were beneficiaries of two tight reviews that both went their way: reversing the tackle/fumble and letting the sideline reception by Goedert stand. In the latter play, the ball clearly shifted between steps 1 and 2, but they claimed he maintained control.

Overall, I felt it was a reasonably officiated game.

Fairly good game, half time show sucked, she's obviously preggers. Also why in the fuck would they use a NEW TURF for the SUPERBOWL? After like 8 guys lost their footing they talked about some new turf (at least it was grass) and everyone changing cleats. Just dumb.
Before the game, ESPN had an article bragging about the new grass LOL.

 

TheVrolok

Lifer
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I don't know why everyone else is so salty; I agree with you that NBA-style "swallowing the whistle" isn't good for the game. As you pointed out, the CB actually clutched Smith-Schuster twice on that release. That definitely disrupted the timing of the route.

Now I'm not saying fans should be happy that the call was so pivotal, but like you said even Bradberry confessed to the crime. IMO the Eagles were beneficiaries of two tight reviews that both went their way: reversing the tackle/fumble and letting the sideline reception by Goedert stand. In the latter play, the ball clearly shifted between steps 1 and 2, but they claimed he maintained control.

Overall, I felt it was a reasonably officiated game.


Before the game, ESPN had an article bragging about the new grass LOL.

The issue is there's that level of penalty on many downs (offensive and defensive holding particularly). Either call the game tightly or let them play. This had been a very let them play game up until that play, which decided the game, and was really soft and unlikely to impact the result of that particular play.

The problem wasn't "is it a penalty?" That's an easy yes, it's "is it consistent with the way the game has been called all night?" That's a big no and the problem. A game ending call inconsistent with the way the game has been called to that point is pretty egregious.

Eagles didn't deserve the win after that terrible defensive performance, but that call was abysmal and similar to last year.
 
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JEDI

Lifer
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That was gronk kicking that field goal live for $10m??
What was that about?

edit:
ahh..fanduel publicity stunt
$10m in freeplay, not real cash, to their customers
 
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purbeast0

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LOVE LOVE LOVE hearing all of the crying about "the call" last night.

But Philly fans don't want to talk about Jalen Hurts literally dropping the ball and giving the Chiefs 7 points on a scoop and score. Or some BS replay calls that all went Philly's way prior to that. No that didn't have anything to do with the Chiefs winning.

It was only a defensive holding call, that even without, the Chiefs would have scored 3 points easily, giving them the lead. The guy who committed that penalty even admitted he held onto his jersey after the game. He was a very standup guy and gave a really long interview. Mad props to him.
 
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digiram

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What the hell did they put into Mahomes ankle? He made a high ankle sprain look like a toe stub. Anyhow, such a good game I was really disappointed it ended via a penalty. 🤦
 
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Ajay

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I enjoyed the game. Just the Mrs. and I. She’s an Eagles fan and I favor the Chiefs. The opposite reaction to each play/penalty was funny. Suffice to say we weren’t holding hands that night.
 
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JEDI

Lifer
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What the hell did they put into Mahomes ankle? He made a high ankle sprain look like a toe stub. Anyhow, such a good game I was really disappointed it ended via a penalty. 🤦
I'm assuming some sort of pain killer so he made his injury much worse by doing that 14yard scramble but didn't feel much of it that night.

But I bet he's feeling it this morning.

And instead of a few sessions in rehab to fix, it'll now be a few months if not till preseason for it to heal.

Kinda like Brett Fars ankle in his losing bid to win that playoff game.

Or tiger woods suffering a acl tear in his knee to win a minor golf tournament instead of withdrawing.
That was the physical start of his golf downfall.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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What the hell did they put into Mahomes ankle? He made a high ankle sprain look like a toe stub. Anyhow, such a good game I was really disappointed it ended via a penalty. 🤦
Probably a bit more than lidocaine. lol. Didn't Antonio Brown disclose the names of one of them?
Chemicalz4DaWin.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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I know Tua is breathing a sigh of relief, like "haha, Jalen, close but ya didn't get it".

Also, F the Eagles and corrupt reffing can be excused in this case because it's legal to discriminate against the Eagles and the fans.
 
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Bitek

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Fairly good game, half time show sucked, she's obviously preggers. Also why in the fuck would they use a NEW TURF for the SUPERBOWL? After like 8 guys lost their footing they talked about some new turf (at least it was grass) and everyone changing cleats. Just dumb.

If there is something to bitch the league out about it was the turf and the quality of the field in the biggest game of the year.

F Arizona if they can't get this right.

Hell, even the eagles kicker slipped planting just for a kick-off.

It was a mess on both sides and glad no one got hurt.
 

RPD

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LOVE LOVE LOVE hearing all of the crying about "the call" last night.

But Philly fans don't want to talk about Jalen Hurts literally dropping the ball and giving the Chiefs 7 points on a scoop and score. Or some BS replay calls that all went Philly's way prior to that. No that didn't have anything to do with the Chiefs winning.

It was only a defensive holding call, that even without, the Chiefs would have scored 3 points easily, giving them the lead. The guy who committed that penalty even admitted he held onto his jersey after the game. He was a very standup guy and gave a really long interview. Mad props to him.
There was also another defense TD overturned for the Chiefs they let play out, which I like, but then ruled it an incomplete pass. I didn't agree with the call because he did have both feet down and there was no defender and he made that grab going out of bounds, it would have been a catch. On "the call" there was one angle that you can clearly see he tugged on his jersey and hell the player flagged even twitted that he held. I don't like the whole, if it's late in the game don't throw a flag stuff, just call it like (hopefully) you've been calling all game. If it's a flag, throw a flag, regardless of the score or time left on the clock.
I don't know why everyone else is so salty; I agree with you that NBA-style "swallowing the whistle" isn't good for the game. As you pointed out, the CB actually clutched Smith-Schuster twice on that release. That definitely disrupted the timing of the route.

Now I'm not saying fans should be happy that the call was so pivotal, but like you said even Bradberry confessed to the crime. IMO the Eagles were beneficiaries of two tight reviews that both went their way: reversing the tackle/fumble and letting the sideline reception by Goedert stand. In the latter play, the ball clearly shifted between steps 1 and 2, but they claimed he maintained control.

Overall, I felt it was a reasonably officiated game.


Before the game, ESPN had an article bragging about the new grass LOL.

Talk about a face palm. Like why do this?
 

Perknose

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The game is long over. I am a diehard Eagles fan, from WAY back in the day when they played at Franklin Field, the still standing stadium of the Univ. of Penna. My friend's older brother and his buddies had the quart a quarter club, each bringing a gallon glass bottle of cheap wine to, ummm, enhance their experience, quarter by quarter. From the top row you could turn around, unzip and pee on the Pennsylvania RR tracks. Different times.

Sadly, the Birds lost. Somehow, I'll manage to continue to find meaning in my life. All this quibbling and bitching -- "corrupt officials? Really?? -- is small and petty and stupid. You play the game knowing the officials are not perfect. If you don't manage to overcome the obstacles before you, you lose. Simple as that. Please go cry elsewhere. It's unseemly.
 
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JEDI

Lifer
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If there is something to bitch the league out about it was the turf and the quality of the field in the biggest game of the year.

F Arizona if they can't get this right.

Hell, even the eagles kicker slipped planting just for a kick-off.

It was a mess on both sides and glad no one got hurt.
alot of eagles players switched to some other cleats.
chiefs players didnt switch.

but yeah wtf using experimental turf for the superbowl??

shouldnt this have been done during preseason to test it out? then next season put it a few stadiums then all stadiums 2yrs later.
then playoffs + superbowl?
 
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MtnMan

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Don't follow or care about the NFL, but I gather there was a big game.

The real question is which city suffered the most damage, vandalism, and overturned cop cars as the result of so-called fans celebrating?

And people wonder why I could give a flying fuck about pro sports.
 

RPD

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Don't follow or care about the NFL, but I gather there was a big game.

The real question is which city suffered the most damage, vandalism, and overturned cop cars as the result of so-called fans celebrating?

And people wonder why I could give a flying fuck about pro sports.
and yet...
 
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purbeast0

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Don't follow or care about the NFL, but I gather there was a big game.

The real question is which city suffered the most damage, vandalism, and overturned cop cars as the result of so-called fans celebrating?

And people wonder why I could give a flying fuck about pro sports.
No one wonders why you could give a flying fuck about pro sports (your dumbass even messed that cliche up - it's couldn't).

But we do wonder if you don't care about sports or the NFL, why you bother clicking on a thread about it, and even make a post about it.

Oh yeah that's right, it's because you "could give a flying fuck" about it.
 
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Fairly good game, half time show sucked, she's obviously preggers. Also why in the fuck would they use a NEW TURF for the SUPERBOWL? After like 8 guys lost their footing they talked about some new turf (at least it was grass) and everyone changing cleats. Just dumb.

Because Arizona's field was trash all year prior to that as well.
 
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I don't know why everyone else is so salty; I agree with you that NBA-style "swallowing the whistle" isn't good for the game. As you pointed out, the CB actually clutched Smith-Schuster twice on that release. That definitely disrupted the timing of the route.

Now I'm not saying fans should be happy that the call was so pivotal, but like you said even Bradberry confessed to the crime. IMO the Eagles were beneficiaries of two tight reviews that both went their way: reversing the tackle/fumble and letting the sideline reception by Goedert stand. In the latter play, the ball clearly shifted between steps 1 and 2, but they claimed he maintained control.

Overall, I felt it was a reasonably officiated game.


Before the game, ESPN had an article bragging about the new grass LOL.


I don't know either. It was so blatant and wasn't just the jersey tug. The DB clearly impeded the progress of the receiver. And while, yes, calls like that get missed plenty (even the awful Fox presenters pointed one out earlier and if you look there were multiple on that play with one DB clearly grabbing jersey and then another on a different receiver clearly manipulating the receiver's body and neither was called) but that doesn't mean you magically decide to not call it just because it'll add drama. Its interesting how the Eagles are like "nah, that was the right call" and just in general are not bellyaching about it while I guess a ton of other people have lost their goddamned minds.

It was an interesting game in that both teams were their own worst enemies and were pretty well matched. Chiefs showed why you never feel safe even with a lead, but the Eagles showed they deserved to be there. 2 best teams matched up and had a solid game. Was surprising to see so little pass rush, but both teams also might have the best offensive lines this year as well so strength against strength, and Reid dialed up enough wrinkles that I don't think the Eagles could really start getting pressure going. I was expecting we'd see some of that, I even wondered if we might not see them look like the old Dick Vermeil era Chiefs with lots of play action screen passes to try and take advantage of aggressive Eagles defense. I was impressed by the Chiefs defense as well, especially after the Eagles grinded out such a lopsided TOP in the first half. When the Eagles were only up 10 points after holding the ball that much I was pretty optimistic.

I actually think they did a good job on all the reviews and got the right call. I admit I didn't realize there's a 3 step (or 3 second?) rule on the catch thing for the one fumble. Although makes me go, so if the receiver had just been tackled, they would have called it an incomplete pass then? No they wouldn't so why was it not a fumble? I believed it was you just had to clearly take possession and then make a football move (basically both feet on the ground and make one clear step), which it sure looked like the receiver did. They got the guy's elbow being down without the ball in the end zone. They correctly didn't overturn the TE's catch (it was close but I think it was a catch as he regained control with the one foot down and then got the other down before going out). I actually thought that last one was Andy being Andy and was maybe gonna end up costing them the game as I think it was a bad challenge. Likewise on the going for the field goal (that they missed) in the first half. Andy doesn't seem to have as much of the ridiculously poor late half management that he was known for in Philadelphia these days, but then I think Mahomes masks a lot of Andy's issues (and vice versa).

I'm wondering if its not the dumb idea to have the rolling floor that is the real problem with the stadium there. I don't like the Cardinals' stadium in general to be honest.
 
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Apparently Reid might be considering retiring. I'd be very doubtful he does, but if so, who the hell do they find for a coach? Granted they could probably take their pick (wonder if Sean Payton might would have some regrets). Maybe they'd promote Bienemy, or possibly Spagnuolo.

But imagine what that would do. It could be chaos. Would Billy leave New England (or maybe Kraft trade him?), would Pete Carroll make a shrewd move? Sean McVay?

Or, oh no, Kliff Kingsbury?
 
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