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Lifer
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By offense I mean offense vs defense. Patricia was a defensive coach, right? Is that where Patricia ended up? I didn't pay any attention.

I wouldn't hire one either (I assume that's what you meant instead of draft haha). They're all prick bastards and no one can stand them, and most of them are cheaters. Hell even Bill himself probably can't achieve anything without having one of the best all time players on his team (Brady and then LT back on the Giants). Then again, not sure that's untrue about any successful coach, and I think the sudden "Bill is a fraud too, it was always just Brady responsible for the Patriots success" is a bit much, but then that's sports media for you, constantly going to hyperbolic extremes.
Nobody really cares if they're pricks if coaches can somehow replicate Belichick's success. However, the Beli coaching tree has always failed miserably, so it would take a dumb ass like Mark Davis to hire Josh McDaniels.

As for Patricia, it's slightly confusing because he was the Pats' successful DC but also coached on offense at times. He was infamously the Patriots playcaller in 2022, but was fired and has since joined the Eagles staff.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Nobody really cares if they're pricks if coaches can somehow replicate Belichick's success. However, the Beli coaching tree has always failed miserably, so it would take a dumb ass like Mark Davis to hire Josh McDaniels.

As for Patricia, it's slightly confusing because he was the Pats' successful DC but also coached on offense at times. He was infamously the Patriots playcaller in 2022, but was fired and has since joined the Eagles staff.

Yet, looking at Belichick's record over the past couple of decades...something has changed...and not for the better.

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akugami

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@darkswordsman17

Patricia coached offense at times for the Patriots.

Belichick is still a good coach, he didn't suddenly lose the ability to coach. His teams without Tom Brady aren't terrible, but not all that great either. The reason is no QB. Without a QB, every coach is toast. Mac Jones is not it. It just goes to show you how a good coach needs to be married to a good QB. One cannot succeed without the other.
 

jmagg

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Even with a decent offensive line, D Jones is only mediocre. Hes always a click behind on release, and mostly inaccurate. I think hes done. I do respect him and his determination.
 
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Lifer
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Even with a decent offensive line, D Jones is only mediocre. Hes always a click behind on release, and mostly inaccurate. I think hes done. I do respect him and his determination.
Joe Burrow is the marquee example of having a bad O-line but still showing in the eye test that he could read the field. I remember when Washington injured his knee, the Bengals QB replacement was clearly a cut below.

Daniel Jones never was the best reader of the field nor pinpoint accurate to any part of the field. I don't think he could reach Cousins or Dak tier even with a loaded offense.
 

MrSquished

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Well Danny Jones never had a decent offensive line, and this is the only season he really had an A-tier playmaker on the receiving end, Waller, so we'll never know who was right.

Dallas only favored by 17. I think they'll cover and more.
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
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Well Danny Jones never had a decent offensive line, and this is the only season he really had an A-tier playmaker on the receiving end, Waller, so we'll never know who was right.

Dallas only favored by 17. I think they'll cover and more.
I had to watch Jason Campbell get destroyed by an Oline. He was dealt a bad hand but the way he executed plays also was not good enough.

Danny-Gets-Picked had some throwing talent but Jason Garrett was able to develop Dak while Jones did not show the same progress. Maybe he could have rose to Jimmy G, Cousins, or something like that, but not much further.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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I had to watch Jason Campbell get destroyed by an Oline. He was dealt a bad hand but the way he executed plays also was not good enough.

Danny-Gets-Picked had some throwing talent but Jason Garrett was able to develop Dak while Jones did not show the same progress. Maybe he could have rose to Jimmy G, Cousins, or something like that, but not much further.

Your wunderkid Mac Jones got benched
 

KMFJD

Lifer
Aug 11, 2005
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Playoffs nowadays are crapshoots, but do your Lions make the NFC champ game?
Hmmm...really depends, if they are healthy i think they have a decent chance, the offence when healthy is very very good. They are weak in the secondary though and miss CJGJ, he might be back for the playoff if they make it that far.

Their schedule is insanely favourable though...Bearsx2, Packers, @Saints, Vikesx2, Broncos and @Cowboys
 
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thestrangebrew1

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niners look legit again, against a very good Jax secondary/def.
The first TD Purdy threw I just shook my head in disbelief. Aiyuk bailed him out lol. But yea, they looked really good yesterday, especially on D. Of course, Ward still continues his streak of getting a holding/PI call on him. So frustrating...The unsportsmanlike penalty on the fumble return that negated the TD shows a lack of discipline as well. Need to button that up.
 
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MrSquished

Lifer
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Hmmm...really depends, if they are healthy i think they have a decent chance, the offence when healthy is very very good. They are weak in the secondary though and miss CJGJ, he might be back for the playoff if they make it that far.

Their schedule is insanely favourable though...Bearsx2, Packers, @Saints, Vikesx2, Broncos and @Cowboys

They should win six out of those eight. It would be nice to see the Lions push into the playoffs.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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Packers lost but didn't totally suck while doing so.
No, they really didn’t. I loves me some GB Packers…ALMOST as much as I love my beloved Steelers…both teams performed well. It could have easily gone either way.
 

RPD

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The first TD Purdy threw I just shook my head in disbelief. Aiyuk bailed him out lol. But yea, they looked really good yesterday, especially on D. Of course, Ward still continues his streak of getting a holding/PI call on him. So frustrating...The unsportsmanlike penalty on the fumble return that negated the TD shows a lack of discipline as well. Need to button that up.
Yep, he continues to throw that ball, and get lucky with it most of the times. Would rather he not, plus the other guy (forgot who) could have been thrown much more wide open on that play.
Also I think karma will eventually catch up with cowboys running up the scores by not running the ball. Part of me thinks they do it to pad their stats just so they can point to how "dominant" they are. At least this time around they pulled their starters at the very end.
 
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olds

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The first TD Purdy threw I just shook my head in disbelief. Aiyuk bailed him out lol. But yea, they looked really good yesterday, especially on D. Of course, Ward still continues his streak of getting a holding/PI call on him. So frustrating...The unsportsmanlike penalty on the fumble return that negated the TD shows a lack of discipline as well. Need to button that up.
I was the same when he made the TD throw to Kittle as Purdy was swarmed. I was yelling "why did you throw that" as he was releasing the ball. Then I was like, "never mind".
 

Torn Mind

Lifer
Nov 25, 2012
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Most Broncos game ever.

Also, most Bills game ever.

Right to the end. Lol, missed FG but then 12 men on the field...
 

JujuFish

Lifer
Feb 3, 2005
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I can't think of a more Billsy ending than that game. Cleveland, Detroit, take note on this masterclass.
 
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